User:Taivo/Archive14 Jul–Sep

Clémence Poesy Pictures

Hi, i'm Clémence Poesy manager. I am contacting you because you have updated her photos. We plead her image right to delete some picture and put some new official and recent pictures. I put two new picture on wikimedia which we have all broadcast rights. Please delete this street picture, and put the others one to replace.

thank you very much,

Emeric de la Cour — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emscop (talk • contribs)

The new photos have both copyright problems. One of them is quite small and has no metadata, I am not sure, that you are the photographer or have any right to publish it under any license. Copyright holder of the other photo is claimed to be Jérémie Bouillon, but the uploader is Emscop (talk · contribs). For both photos, OTRS-permission from copyright holder is needed. Taivo (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

I have the rights for the two pictures. Sorry if of is quite small, It's Clemence herself who asked me to act for some photos to be deleted (the photo of Deauville and the parade channel) because she never agreed diffusion. I have documents that prove Jeremy Bouillon and Corran Brownlee let these photos free of copyright. Please send me a email to emdelacour@gmail.com and I will send all document to prove my actions.

Thank you very much

Emeric de la Cour P/O IMG Models +33 651618696

You mean two photos, that you uploaded and were deleted due to copyright problems? Things are done much more easily. Please send OTRS-permission for these files and they are restored. Taivo (talk) 10:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

ok we have two separate problems, the first problem is that we want to delete photos that are not allowed to be diffuse, Clemence had not given her consent. The 2nd problem is the two new photos that we want to upload for updating her wikipedia photo profile. I'm going to try a OTRS permission, but this is not clear and a little complicate ! Thank you and i will be back after.

All photos, depicting Clemence Poesy now, have free licenses. Free licenses are irrevocable. Neither you nor Clemence Poesy have right to demand their deletion. Even photographer Nicolas Genin (and even I) have no right to demand their deletion. Maybe Clemence does not like them, but there is nothing to do with that. She must live with these photos in Commons. Taivo (talk) 11:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

it's amazing, how is possible to have a free licenses when the person do not agree... in France we have image rights laws. If i ask directly to the photographer to delete his picture, it's not possible ?

Actually no, he is not an administrator in Commons and so he does not have rights to delete anything. He can delete photos in Flickr, but as free licenses are irrevocable, this means nothing for Commons. The person's consent is usually not needed. Let's imagine, that a criminal does not want, that anything is published about him – he does not give consent for any photos, does it mean, that Commons cannot have photos about him? Person's consent is needed, when (s)he is in a potentially embarrassing situation, but nothing strange or shameful happens on these photos. If Clemence does not like the photos, then she can upload into Commons new better photos. If the new photos are better, then all Wikimedia projects start to use them and almost nobody sees old ones. Taivo (talk) 12:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Taivo, i have some difficulties to send some photo to OTRS permission. I have no answers from them. I have all document, Clemence ID, Photographe permission for free licence, Hd photo with meta data...

It's possible to contact you by mail to check that? That will be very helpfull. Thank you very much. Emeric de la Cour.

Sorry, I am on vacation now and I did not see that message earlier. You can send me private messages, selecting from Tools "Email this user", but I do not want to show to you my mail address and I will reply to your messages here (or if you want, then on your user page). Taivo (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Tartu Turusild

Kas selles on jälle sinu käsi mängus? Mitte kellelegi ei jää need pildid ette. Selline saksa täpsusega reeglite jälgimine on täiesti tarbetu ning kaastöö seisukohalt kahjulik ja probleeme põhjustav. Üks põhjus, miks panoraamivabaduse sissesaamine seadusandluseesse on nõnda keerukas, tulenebki sellest, et isegi juristid ei saa aru, et mida praegune olukord endast kujutab ning arhitektidel on siiralt ükskõik, et kes mida ja millal pildistab. Kruusamägi (talk) 08:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Mina ei ole Pildirüüstaja (talk · contribs). Taivo (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Vabandan, kui olen sinu tegevust antud isikuga seostanud. Kui nii, siis ainult teadmatusest ja tahtmatult. See frukt on ikka selline, et tema nimegi mainime tundub mulle pühaduseteotusena ning sinu ja tema tegevuse samastamine oleks ülimalt sobimatu. Kruusamägi (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Map of Kose small.png

Ole hea ja kustuta see ära. Seda ei kasutata kuskil ja see on kaardina aegunud. Samuti sai see kunagi ühe kaardi põhjale tehtud ja arvestades muudetud osa hulka võis olla tegu copyvio-ga. Kruusamägi (talk) 22:42, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done Taivo (talk) 08:42, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Suur tänu!

Muide. Kruusamägi (talk) 11:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Deletions?

Do you have a list of your deleted category: pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.221.170.42 (talk • contribs)

No. You can sort deletion logs by performer's name, but then you get all, what I have deleted, and most of them are files, not categories. Taivo (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

BSicon request

Hi again, thanks for checking that page from time to time! I have a different request at the moment — would you be able to deal with history merging/splitting? Long story short, File:BSicon exENDEl.svg and File:BSicon exENDEr.svg have been superseded by File:BSicon exENDEaq.svg & File:BSicon exENDEeq.svg, and I've replaced all the relevant usage. However, in order to preserve attribution, it would be better to merge the original versions of the older files (but only the original, no need to show those changes of direction) as previous versions of modern files (File:BSicon exENDEl.svg to File:BSicon exENDEeq.svg and File:BSicon exENDEr.svg to File:BSicon exENDEaq.svg). Would you be able to do that? YLSS (talk) 12:44, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done This was first time for me to merge histories. If something needs to be done more (for example, deleting some versions), let me know. Taivo (talk) 12:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks ;) Could you please delete the version from 25 March 2013 (in both)? And possibly also the last version resulting from your reversal: if this is the same bug as this one, then it's not needed now that the versions are in the right order. Also, congrats for new experience (good or bad) with MediaWiki! And sorry for pushing you into that ;) YLSS (talk) 22:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done The experience was generally good. I deleted versions from 25th of March, but I think, that deleting the last version (created by myself) is not necessary, because this is the same as yours. It is, of course, possible to delete that also, but deletion of last version is not so simple. Taivo (talk) 10:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I never knew that... YLSS (talk) 11:54, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Could you please perform the same procedure with File:BSicon ENDEl.svg → File:BSicon ENDEeq.svg & File:BSicon ENDEr.svg → File:BSicon ENDEaq.svg? Thanks. BTW, may I suggest that (in order to overcome that bug with older versions appearing on top of earlier) you first delete both files in a pair, then move the revisions of e. g. File:BSicon ENDEeq.svg to File:BSicon ENDEl.svg, then restore the oldest and the newest revisions, and then move all of them together back to "eq" title? If I read these logs correctly [1][2], that should solve the problem... YLSS (talk) 21:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done Now I understood: 1) delete destination file, 2) move without redirect into destination, 3) delete destination again, 4) restore all necessary versions. Step 3 is not necessary, when the newest version of moved file does not need deletion. Taivo (talk) 10:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Just another "Thank You"-notice

Thank YOU ;)

Thank you ;) --PigeonIP (talk) 13:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Amendment of your closure

Hi Taivo. Could you perhaps consider amending your closure of Commons:Deletion requests/File:GuentherZ 2007-05-18 3098 Wien Festwochen-Fahne.jpg? The reason stated by the nominator is valid, so deleting it was (as I recall the file) the correct decision, but there is no reason to believe that the user did not take the photo itself. If you look at other photos by User:GuentherZ, who is a long-time contributor, that he uploaded around that time, you'll see he generally downscaled them and removed the metadata at the time, but as long as there is no other copy of the photo available somewhere, I don't think there is any reason to doubt his own work claim for any of them. 2007 was a long time ago and expectations regarding high resolution, metadata, etc. may have been different at the time, so I think it's somewhat disrespectful to (essentially) call this photographer a liar. If you base your closure only on COM:DW/COM:FOP, it's perfectly ok. Thanks for your consideration. darkweasel94 14:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done Taivo (talk) 21:32, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

User:FDMS4/common.css

I was using a {{Speedy}} on the talkpage to request deletion of my local CSS, but you only deleted the talkpage …    FDMS  4   

 Done Taivo (talk) 15:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

problem 1

Hello. I have a problem with your decision to keep that file and to put Ceha's version back. Ceha has been known to change maps in favor of his POV. Hence it is extremely troubling to see him change other people's files. If anything, he has ruined the map rather than improved it. Furthermore, under licensing he is not allowed to change it. Do you now understand why there is such a problem and why I asked that the thing get deleted? (Lilic (talk) 22:13, 11 September 2014 (UTC)).

 Done I did not revert the file into Čeha's version as I originally planned, and I wrote that also in Commons:Deletion requests/File:DemoBIH2006a.png on the same day. Taivo (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you still get why I asked for it to be deleted? It was not transferred properly. That's the whole problem. I feel that it should be deleted, and then have the original image transfered properly. Is that too much to ask for? (Lilic (talk) 16:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)). Is it possible to transfer the original image properly first, and then delete this one? (Lilic (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)).

If the file is transferred again from sr.wiki into Commons under new name, then file under old name can be deleted as duplicate, especially if it is unused. But if the file is now deleted in sr.wiki, then you need somebody, who has administrator rights in sr.wiki. Unfortunately nobody among Commons administrators has admin rights in sr.wiki. You can ask a steward (look into top of Commons:List of administrators by adminship status in other Wikimedia projects) or search an admin in Serbian wiki. Taivo (talk) 11:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

This is interesting. Thanks for this. I will look into it, not right away, but thanks for the lead in the right direction. (Lilic (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2014 (UTC)).

problem 2

Also, regarding this, the primary reason for deletion is copyright infringement. The boundaries are stolen from a copyright image. For this same reason these maps were deleted, is it more clear now?? Must I nominate this file again, or does your ignorance of the situation trump what is proper, that being deletion? Also, the map is 100% not sourced. Lilic (talk) 22:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC).

You did not provide any evidence for copyright violation. You did not provide evidenve, that borders are stolen from copyrighted image. A lot of Čeha's files were deleted, but this file was not nominated in this request and you did not explain, why. The file is now nominated for deletion thrice and is kept by three administrators. Can you at last live with that or does your ignorance of the situation trump what is proper? Taivo (talk) 09:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I alluded to what the problem was. I was wrong to assume that people would know. Regardless, I feel that deleting it is the proper thing, first and foremost due to copyright violation. May I renominate this for deletion? Also, I nominated it ONLY once, don't tell me that I nominated three times. The previous reasons for deletion were valid, but, I did not do that nomination, and the main reason why the map is problematic (copyright) was not mentioned. On top of nominating it again, I vouch that this map is a really bad map. The main reason why is because there is no data source - there has been no census results since 1991 in that country, not even official estimates. Hence one is simply guessing when they post such an image. (Lilic (talk) 16:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)).

What is here protected with copyright? Municipality borders themselves are ineligible for copyright. Census data are also ineligible for copyright and if the data are represented with different colors, then this is also too few for copyright protection. But here are depicted some bigger and medium-sized cities. Somebody choosed, which cities to depict and which not, this can make the image eligible for copyright. You claim, that the map is partly original research. Original research is generally prohibited in en.wiki, but allowed in Commons. But the file has source and it has been kept on that ground. If the source data are wrong, then this is argument for deletion, but you must give proof, that the data are wrong. ("No official estimates since 1991" is not proof, that the data are wrong.) If you claim, that the file is partly unsourced, then you must say, which part of data is unsourced. If you can give proof, that the file is copyright violation, and say the copyright holder's name (either person or company), then it is strong argument. Taivo (talk) 12:14, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I feel that borders and town locations, not to mention town polygon depictions, to be sufficient for copyright infringement.

For sourcing - the map is allegedly a map which shows the change in percent of an ethnic group between two years. There is data for the year 1991, sure, but there isn't such data for 2005. Hence there is no source. In fact, to this very day there is no data! Just holding a census was so controversial and is so disputed, the conditions are so difficult that they don't even want to release data due to the huge controversy regarding them. The census was postponed two years in fact, from 2011 to 2013 due to the controversy of such data even being collected. Due to the huge controversy of this, it is problematic to have a map which claims to present such things. Even the national statistics agency there warned about such stuff, case in point [3] ... it's controversial stuff, and on top of the map being low quality, it's most certainly not sourced, and it violates copyright... (Lilic (talk) 06:51, 14 September 2014 (UTC)).

May I relist this for deletion? (Lilic (talk) 15:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)).

If you want, okay, but you must give better explanation than previous time or the file will be kept again. I repeat: "No official data since 1991" does not prove, that the map is wrong, neither does it mean copyright infringement, and original research is allowed in Commons. Taivo (talk) 17:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

How would you suggest that I go about proving that there is no such data for the second year? That would be only the second part of why it should be deleted, but nonetheless I ask you this now because it's better that I have a more solid thing than something that would be iffy ya know. (Lilic (talk) 21:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)).

I know one way to get the file deleted. If you can show, that the source map is not own work (if it has been somewhere in web with earlier date). Bytheway, I found today from en.wiki an article about census in BIH in 2013, so actually some newer data exist. Taivo (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

It is true that there was a census for 2013, but the map itself is not for the census year 2013. As for the 2013 data, well, it's not even released at this point. The census department in the country condemned some group(s) which was making estimates, pretending to present data. It's very controversial, to the extent that it's questionable if they will even release data, and if so will it be on the level of municipalities or not. :( (Lilic (talk) 22:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)).

map

Please see Commons:Deletion requests/File:DemoBIH2006a.png --Čeha (talk) 20:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Please upload your own version under different name. Taivo (talk) 11:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

He did that already, and it got deleted for being too similar to the current one. What he decides to do is to proceed to edit waring, or more like image revert warring. (Lilic (talk) 15:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)).

Commons:Deletion requests/Image:WW2 - Baltic full-scale offensive, 1944 (detailed).jpg

Приветствую.

1. Не считаете ли Вы необходимым уведомить о своём желании удалить файл, коий используется во многих статьях, перед удалением оного?
2. Полагаете ли Вы достаточным основанием для удаления файла только Ваши предположения о возможном правообладателе, не имея достоверной информации?
3. Полагаете ли Вы необходимым уточнить информацию о правообладателе у пользователя Википедии, разместившего удаляемый Вами файл?

Wilder (talk) 01:17, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

И вам также привет.

1. Не считаю. Тот, кто представит файл на удаление, обязан уведомить загрузчика файла, это всё. Некоторые файлы используют в полуста проектов, предупреждение в всех проектов отдельно требует слишком много времени. Так как большинство из файлов, представленных на удаление, в конце концов удаляют, заявка на удаление уже само собой является уведомением удалить файл. Конечно, иногда локальные проекты не знают, что какой-нибудь файл представлено на удаление. Например, в эстонской википедии Krattbot собирает имена файлов, используемые в эстонской википедии и представленные на удаление в Викискладе. Пора для такова и в русской википедии.
2. В общем, да. Загрузчик должен дать данные про автора и так далее. Тот, кто закрывает заявки удаления, должен посмотреть эти данные и то, что сказали автор заявки на удаление и все участвовавшие в дискуссии, и решить, кто прав. Обыкновенно больше данных не собирают.
3. Не считаю. Его уведомят, что с файлом проблемы, и тогда ему одна неделя, чтобы объязнить или поправить. Вам было даже больше времени. Большинство не делает ничего, и вам спасибо за ваше мнение.

Если у вас какие-нибудь данные про то, что зтот файл всё-таки свободный, представьте эти данные и я могу этот файл восстановить. Taivo (talk) 18:37, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Нет никаких данных о том, что правообладателем является Воениздат. Правообладателем является заказчик, разместивший заказ в каком-либо издательстве. Ведь не станете же Вы утверждать, что правообладателем некоего фильма является завод, штампующий копии фильмов? Соответственно, и в нашем случае Воениздат никак не может быть правообладателем. Это издательство лишь выпустило тираж. А заказчик, коий и является правообладателем, - Министерство обороны СССР. Wilder (talk) 23:53, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Ну, в этом случае авторские права принадлежат правительству СССР, наследственник которого правительство России. Всё равно файл несвободный. В России законодательные документы не защищены авторскими правами, но эта карта не является законодательным документом. Taivo (talk) 11:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Jaguar

Hi, can we discuss the Jaguar 1½ litre‎ category? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 01:47, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

 Comment By principle, yes, but I do not know much about cars. Taivo (talk) 18:46, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I wrote because as I was creating that category I realized too late it had been deleted the day before — if you like my finger was too fast for my brain — and your name was there which is why I wrote the above. Then I realised you were most probably complying with someone else's request but I don't know who asked for the deletion. Can you tell me? I apologise for being stupid as well as a nuisance. Thank you for all your good work. Eddaido (talk) 01:13, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

User:Eddaido, you nominated Category:Jaguar 1½ litre for deletion yourself with this edit. I stated in deletion comment, that this was author's request. Taivo (talk) 13:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I suspected I might have done something so stupid. All is now well and again I do apologise. Thank you Eddaido (talk) 01:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

IoannesII's pictures

Taivo, I do not want to interfere with your job, but is this really [4] valid deletion request (To create this map I used as a base map that I found on the Internet and the map is not in the free use.)? Where is that non-free picture ond the Internet? IoannesII is very useful user, I don't understand his requestes for a large number of files with this reason, 2 years after upload on Commons.--MaGa 18:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I do not understand it also and I think, that this should be discussed, that's why I declined request for speedy deletion. Taivo (talk) 18:45, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I think that requests should be stopped because formally there are no links on map(s) that he found on the Internet and the map(s) is (are) not in the free use. Furthermore, we are loosing valuable pictures [5] [6], and all I want is to save them. I really don't understand why he is doing that. I left him a message, and I hope he will answer it to explain this mysterious requests. Can deletions be stopped until he answer my question on his talk page?--MaGa 19:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Deletion request lasts one week. You have one week to say that in discussions. After week some Commons administrator decides, what to do. Note, that Ioannes did not show source, maybe this is nevertheless his own work. Taivo (talk) 19:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, that's my opinion too. Is this two deleted pictures File:Archdiocese of Vrhbosna map.png and File:Map of Trebinje-Mrkan diocese.png IoannesII's too?--MaGa 20:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, they are. Actually, if Ioannes' requests for deletion fail, then I can restore them too. Taivo (talk) 20:09, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, thank you very much.--MaGa 20:14, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment: If you are so concerned, let me know which maps are of most concern and I can see to try to creating new ones that depict the same thing, or to get someone to do that. This may be a simple solution, I think? (Lilic (talk) 06:03, 20 September 2014 (UTC)).

Free map of BIH municipalities is the most important. Some religious maps also (borders of bishopships or how do you call them). Taivo (talk) 16:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll just draw up a new one, it's not difficult. (Lilic (talk) 17:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)).

Category:Crown jewels of Ukraine

en:Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia --Pohorynsky (talk) 16:33, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

And so? И так что? Taivo (talk) 18:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion_requests/File:HCMUT_official_logo.png

Why did you delete this file? There were three keep !votes and you clearly agreed it was too simple, since when do we delete files just because they're not in use? Fry1989 ^eh? 17:34, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Is there an article in en.wiki about the company? Or in some other big language? Taivo (talk) 17:39, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Fry1989 ^eh? 18:07, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I restored the logo and closed the request differently. Taivo (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the quick pass through user Skippa's image submissions! You saved me a lot of time, as I was going to have to copy/paste more speedy deletion templates to those other images. :) Much obliged. I believe the user is another incarnation of a problematic user (or users) at the English Wikipedia. (please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HoshiNoKaabii2000/Archive Even an image like File:Nick Ident 2003.jpg is problematic, because it references Jetania, which is a fictional island that this kid (or these kids) are obsessed with (see the English Wikipedia sockpuppet investigation linked above or this discussion with Smalljim (an admin on the English WP). I'll leave it up to you whether it should be deleted or not, but I think you may consider monitoring this user. Thanks again! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done I deleted file:Nick Ident 2003.jpg also. Taivo (talk) 18:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Copyright violation

Please, check this. Thanks in advance. --Fixertool (talk) 11:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your help. --Fixertool (talk) 05:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you to your quick response! --Flo Sorg (talk) 12:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Linux Mint Cinnamon

Hi. I noticed this: "I contribute using Windows 98, Internet Explorer 6.0 and Mozilla 1.4."

Our household has multiple operating systems depending on the age of the various computers. A couple older PCs were using Windows XP. They were converted to Linux Mint Cinnamon. Firefox and Chrome are installed on them. The PCs work fine for web browsing, Youtube, etc..

Linux Mint is the most popular version of Linux for individual users. Cinnamon is the easiest interface for people coming from Windows, and is very popular too. I can recommend it. It is easy to use. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Removal of categories Rahvusarhiiv and Estonian National Library

Why were they removed? There is content relating to both categories, now orphaned. They are also supposed to act as content partnership categories, perhaps some details were missing? --Susannaanas (talk) 09:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

If you think, that this was wrong, put them back. Taivo (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

File:Борщева Елена.jpg

Hi! I ask to restore file:Борщева Елена.jpg removed with you on December 9, 2013. It is possible to use this image in the article ru:Борщёва, Елена Сергеевна. Thanks in advance. Please excuse me, I don't know English. Yours faithfully, --Dogad75 (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Со мной можно и по-русски говорить. Я восстановил файл, пожалуйста категоризовайте его. Taivo (talk) 09:33, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Огромное спасибо! С уважением, --Dogad75 (talk) 05:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)