Template talk:PD-LosAlamos

Surplus line break

{{Edit request}} This template produces a surplus line break at the top when transcluded, please remove the "comment to force linebreak". --Patrick87 (talk) 18:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Can you imagine why this comment was put in the first place? -- Rillke^(q?) 20:22, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

There are two things I could think of:

• When starting a table on the same line with text it fails:{|

|This should be a table |}

Maybe there was a bug in MediaWiki once that made tables even break when transcluded as templates which might have made this hack necessary.

• When putting multiple license templates below each other (I don't know if this even makes sense in this case) the spacing between the boxes (including the notice in this template) is always the same. Maybe somebody tried to insert <p><br /></p> as a visual clue to separate the two boxes from the preceding boxes.

While the first point is obsolete for sure, the second should be solved differently think (e.g. by joining the two boxes of this template) if necessary at all. --Patrick87 (talk) 21:31, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done -- Rillke^(q?) 12:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

PD or not PD?

This template confuses me. On the one hand, it's called "PD-LosAlamos" and starts with a US-government public domain statement (Template:PD-USGov-DOE). But on the other hand, that statement says that files from national laboratories (like Los Alamos) may not be PD, and then goes on to quote Los Alamos as granting a simple attribution licence–which still looks free to me, but is certainly not public domain! So which is it? -- Perey (talk) 06:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

PS Contrast Oak Ridge, which specifies that materials are public domain, but asks for attribution. -- Perey (talk) 06:32, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Disclaimer text

{{Edit request}} The disclaimer text is out of date, as the Lab is no longer managed by the University of California. Change to:

Unless otherwise indicated, this information has been authored by an employee or employees of the Los Alamos National Security, LLC (LANS), operator of the Los Alamos National Laboratory under Contract No. DE-AC52-06NA25396 with the U.S. Department of Energy. The U.S. Government has rights to use, reproduce, and distribute this information. The public may copy and use this information without charge, provided that this Notice and any statement of authorship are reproduced on all copies. Neither the Government nor LANS makes any warranty, express or implied, or assumes any liability or responsibility for the use of this information.

 Senator2029 ➔ “Talk”  11:50, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 12:36, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

This template is incorrect

{{Edit request}}

LANL workers are employees of Los Alamos National Security, LLC, and not of the federal government, so the PD-USGov style banner should not be used. The license appears to be in the Template:Attribution family instead. I propose that something like the following should be used instead. Antony-22 (talk) 23:17, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Adding edit request template since it's been a while with no comments, though further discussion is still welcome. It actually seems to be a bit more complicated. Apparently Los Alamos National Security, LLC has only been operating LANL between October 1, 2007 and October 31, 2018. Before this, it was operated by the University of California, so works would actually fall under Template:PD-CAGov. After this, it is being operated by Triad National Security, LLC, and they apparently do not give this permission to the public. Antony-22 (talk) 00:09, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done Antony-22 Not sure if we want to go through the images already listed in Category:PD LosAlamos but it does appear that some (if not quite a few) of them may actually be under PD-CAGov instead. --Majora (talk) 20:38, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Edit request redux

@Antony-22 and Majora: This template says "This image comes from Los Alamos National Laboratory, a national laboratory privately operated under contract from the United States Department of Energy by Los Alamos National Security, LLC betweeen October 1, 2007 and October 31, 2018. " and cites and quotes this link as justification. The new link https://www.lanl.gov/resources/web-policies/copyright-legal.php put up by the new operators Triad National Security, LLC seems to say exactly the same thing as the quoted old link. May we extend PD-Los Alamos to beyond 2018, to the current time under Triad operation? Pinging the people who made the "... October 31, 2018" change for opinions. --GRuban (talk) 17:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC) {{Edit request}}

As above; can we remove the limit to October 2018, since the copyright language seems exactly the same? --GRuban (talk) 13:59, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

The new copyright notice is different from the current one. It says

Unless otherwise indicated, this information has been authored by an employee or employees of the Triad National Security, LLC, operator of the Los Alamos National Laboratory with the U.S. Department of Energy. The U.S. Government has rights to use, reproduce, and distribute this information. The public may copy and use this information without charge, provided that this Notice and any statement of authorship are reproduced on all copies. Neither the Government nor Triad makes any warranty, express or implied, or assumes any liability or responsibility for the use of this information.

We may need a variant template; this one might need to be moved to Template:PD-LosAlamos-LANS for clarity. Jonesey95 (talk) 14:29, 31 August 2023 (UTC)