Commons talk:Stamps
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Circular see also link with the copyright template
[edit]It appears that the "stamps of country" copyright notice template is adding a circular "See also" link to all the categories that it has been added to. For instance Category:Stamps of Hungary. Does anyone know how to fix the issue? --Adamant1 (talk) 10:59, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Stamps as state symbols and signs
[edit]Anyone know what the copyright status of stamps is in relation to being state emblems or signs? I assume for them to be state emblems, signs, and therefore public domain that the law would have to explicitly say as much. Or can we just assume stamps are de-facto PD in any country where state emblems and signs already are even if stamps aren't explicitly mentioned in the law? Personally, I think it's nonsensical to call stamps state symbols or signs in the first place, but a lot of stamps are tagged as PD with that being the rational for why they are public domain. Including in cases where the law doesn't explicitly include stamps. So I'd really appreciate some clarity about it. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Armenia explicitly call postal stamps state signs (государственные знаки почтовой оплаты - почтовые марки, поштова марка - державний знак, почтовая марка – государственный знак, государственные знаки почтовой оплаты - почтовые марки, государственные знаки почтовой оплаты - почтовые марки, аломатҳои давлатии пардохти алоқаи почта - маркаҳои почта, 45) .. վճարման պետական նշաններ etc.). Moldova and Romania define stamps as symbols of state sovereignty. We don't know much about other countries, perhaps we haven't looked into the original laws. Materialscientist (talk) 23:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Sierra Leone and Dominica
[edit]Anyone have any idea of the copyright law for stamps in Sierra Leona and Dominica? Thanks, 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 15:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- At least with Sierra Leone government works are copyrighted. So I doubt stamps would be PD in that case. With Dominica Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Dominica says Dominican stamps are copyrighted until at least 70 years after the date of publication. So they don't seem to be PD there either. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
How accurate is this map? For example, the Balkan countries are marked as PD for stamps, but there doesn't actually seem to be any information on COM:Serbia, COM:Bosnia, etc. I'm closing deletion requests based on this image and may be doing it wrong if it's not actually correct. —holly {chat} 20:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- The file might not be completely accurate as it was last updated in 2017 but if you have specific questions I'll try to assist. If there are no specific stamp details in a country's copyright article then you have to rely on the general rule as detailed there. I do know that Ireland is wrong but the yellow 50-year term does not yet actually affect the stamps that are copyright for 70 years pma after 1984. In 2035 that will be an problem. Ww2censor (talk) 00:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well, at this point I'm referring to the Balkan states. I just closed Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Europa stamps 1973 as keep based on this map, but it was pointed out to me that the very similar Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maia Chiburdanidze 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg was closed by Rosenzweig as delete. Meanwhile, Materialscientist argues that stamps in these countries are official state documents, so I think we need to get more clarity. —holly {chat} 01:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Holly Cheng: I have never seen this map before. You write that "the Balkan countries are marked as PD for stamps", but as I see it, they are marked as grey in the map, and per the map explanation that means "Grey - stamps enter the public domain after the author has been dead for a certain number of years (70 in Europe, depends on the country in Asia)". So 70 years pma. That is basically the same interpretation which I used in Commons:Deletion requests/File:Famous personalities 1999 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maia Chiburdanidze 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg (while rejecting the "official state documents" theory, explained there in more detail). --Rosenzweig τ 05:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oh geez, my geography failed. I was looking in the wrong spot. My bad! —holly {chat} 16:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Holly Cheng: I have never seen this map before. You write that "the Balkan countries are marked as PD for stamps", but as I see it, they are marked as grey in the map, and per the map explanation that means "Grey - stamps enter the public domain after the author has been dead for a certain number of years (70 in Europe, depends on the country in Asia)". So 70 years pma. That is basically the same interpretation which I used in Commons:Deletion requests/File:Famous personalities 1999 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maia Chiburdanidze 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg (while rejecting the "official state documents" theory, explained there in more detail). --Rosenzweig τ 05:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well, at this point I'm referring to the Balkan states. I just closed Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Europa stamps 1973 as keep based on this map, but it was pointed out to me that the very similar Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maia Chiburdanidze 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg was closed by Rosenzweig as delete. Meanwhile, Materialscientist argues that stamps in these countries are official state documents, so I think we need to get more clarity. —holly {chat} 01:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
