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Files in Category:Europa stamps 1973
[edit]Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Germany German stamps are copyrighted until at least 70+ years after the designer's death. In this case the designer, Leif Frimann Anisdahl, seems to still be alive. So these images should be deleted as COPYVIO until an undetermined date.
Adamant1 (talk) 05:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Rosenzweig τ 15:56, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Files in Category:Europa stamps 1973
[edit]Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Yugoslavia says nothing about stamps and the artist of these ones, Leif Frimann Anisdahl, seems to still be alive. So the images should be deleted as COPYVIO until an undetermined date unless someone can provide evidence to contrary.
Adamant1 (talk) 20:50, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- According to the laws of the former Yugoslavia, state signs (including postage signs) are exempt from copyright. The same applies to the legislation of Serbia and Montenegro. Andrey Korzun (talk) 10:04, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Where do the laws of the former Yugoslavia say that state signs are exempt from copyright or even that stamps are including in that? If you look at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Yugoslavia it says nothing about stamps. Let alone does it say that they or state signs are PD. Even Template:PD-YugoslaviaGov just says "certain official state documents such as law texts" and stamps aren't law text. That's not even to say anything about Serbia and Montenegro, which have essentially the same rules as Yugoslavia. So what exactly are you basing your comment on? --Adamant1 (talk) 12:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- It seems difficult to find the original of the Yugoslav Copyright Law (1978). But we have a Serbian copyright law (1998), which largely replicated the law of the former Yugoslavia. It contains Article 6, paragraph 2. “The following shall not be considered works of authorship: 1) Laws, decrees and other regulations; 2) Official materials of government agencies and agencies discharging public functions.” Postage stamps are official materials of the state postal department. Link to the law https://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text/498378 Andrey Korzun (talk) 10:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Most people and countries don't usually consider postage stamps to be de facto PD under any kind of clause saying "official materials" the state are. In this case if "official materials" just meant "everything created by the state" as your trying to treat it then there'd be zero reason for the first point of the regulation saying laws, decrees, and other regulations are public domain. Since all of those are obviously "Official materials of government agencies and agencies discharging public functions." So there's clearly still things created the government that aren't PD regardless and I assume one of those thing are postage stamps. Since again, most countries that have similar clauses don't include postage stamps in them and there's zero evidence that Yugoslavia did. Or for that matter even Serbian to begin with, but even if stamps of Serbia are de facto PD based on that rational it doesn't automatically conclude that the same would go for Yugoslavia and personally I don't think it does for the reasons I've given. Mainly that there's no reason the law would specifically state laws, decrees, and other regulations are PD and then go on to say "Official materials" also are if "Official materials" meant everything created by the state regardless. For instance I assume buildings, statues, bridges, and the like aren't covered in that. Really, there's no reason stamps would be for reasons I have zero urge to get into. Suffice to say, it's way more likely they aren't PD then the opposite. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:41, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- It seems difficult to find the original of the Yugoslav Copyright Law (1978). But we have a Serbian copyright law (1998), which largely replicated the law of the former Yugoslavia. It contains Article 6, paragraph 2. “The following shall not be considered works of authorship: 1) Laws, decrees and other regulations; 2) Official materials of government agencies and agencies discharging public functions.” Postage stamps are official materials of the state postal department. Link to the law https://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text/498378 Andrey Korzun (talk) 10:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Where do the laws of the former Yugoslavia say that state signs are exempt from copyright or even that stamps are including in that? If you look at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Yugoslavia it says nothing about stamps. Let alone does it say that they or state signs are PD. Even Template:PD-YugoslaviaGov just says "certain official state documents such as law texts" and stamps aren't law text. That's not even to say anything about Serbia and Montenegro, which have essentially the same rules as Yugoslavia. So what exactly are you basing your comment on? --Adamant1 (talk) 12:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Kept: PD per the map at Commons:Stamps. —holly {chat} 17:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: I misread the map. —holly {chat} 17:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)