Commons talk:Criteria for speedy deletion

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion.

"Advertising, linked page" request

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I have a request for delation using this message. I can not find anything with page. This request maybe a personal message or spam. Aimty17 (talk) 07:54, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Four proposed additions to the text

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When we introduce {{SD}}
Please be careful to write "SD", not "sd" or "Sd": the latter mean "Sindhi language".
For G11
For copyright violations, please use {{copyvio|reason or source}} rather than {{speedydelete|G11}} or {{SD|G11}}.
For C1
For badly-named categories, after moving any contents feel free to use {{badname|correct name}} rather than {{speedydelete|C1}} or {{C1}}.
For F8
For duplicates, please use {{duplicate|other file}} rather than {{speedydelete|F8}} or {{SD|F8}}.

Jmabel ! talk 19:35, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

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desole je me suis trompé sur la photo je veux modifier je n'arrive pas si vous supprimez je vais le reprendre Gonemili Grace (talk) 04:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What should I post on Wikipedia?..

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what type of post should I post here on Wikipedia? Can I post a story book or upload my documents like pictures and videos or an audio track song... Masteryucap02 (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No Template:Db-multiple on Commons

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I found out when trying to add multiple speedy deletion tags using Twinkle that Commons doesn't have a Template:Db-multiple. I know Twinkle on Commons is currently experimental, but can someone create a Template:Db-multiple? Un assiolo (talk) 16:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

G2 on redirected categories?

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Re Category:Eurofighter Typhoon braking parachutes Unused and implausible redirect (G2): author's request on creation day

Is it a valid G2 when a used and stable category is moved (undiscussed, naturally), and the redirect then G2'ed? This is far from an 'implausible redirect', it had been the category name for a year and a half and that format of the name is still the one matching the rest of the sibling categories. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to change the text in a deletion?

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I have changed the meaning of GA1 to "Gallery page without at least two images or other media files" in this page (see User talk:JopkeB#Gallery pages with only 1 image), but when I use this code in a gallery, the old text is used in the deletion, see for example Giusto Le Court. How can I change that text as well? I think it is hidden somewhere, but I cannot find the right place. JopkeB (talk) 05:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been moved to Village pump JopkeB (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Spurred by Commons:Deletion requests/List of libraries in Paris, User_talk:Adamant1#Monuments historiques in Paris and other places.

Speedy deletion is not there to be speedy. It is there for when things can be speedy. When there is a reason so clear, so unarguable, that no reasonable Commons editor would be expected to have a good reason to disagree. The simple stuff, not the stuff where someone wants it done in a hurry, or they want it done without having to fill out a DR.

A complex deletion is never a candidate for speedy. If there needs to be a case made as to why, that is not a candidate for speedy. In a case like this it is several pages, each of which represents significant editor effort to have created, and where there's already a talk: thread running about it, then very clearly these are nothing like any sort of 'simple' deletion that would be uncontested. So they are not speedy candidates.

We have two current criteria for speedy deletion that apply specifically to galleries:

GA1. Gallery page without at least two images or other media files
Mainspace pages (galleries) that are empty or contain no useful content, such as pages that contain text but no images or other media.
GA2. User intended to create encyclopedic content
Page intended to be an encyclopedic article. Articles and biographies belong to the Wikipedia projects, and are out of Commons's project scope.

Both of these are reasons for deletion of galleries, but not (IMHO) reasons for speedy deletion.

In the first, it isn't clear why a gallery only has one image in it. Was this a valid and valued gallery where images have just been deleted sufficient to depopulate it to only one? Even in a case where there are many other candidate images which might easily be added. Yet, as currently stated, this is not only a reason for deletion, it's a reason for speedy deletion without further notice or discussion.

In the second, then it's a good reason to avoid hosting encyclopedia articles here. Yet can this be handled through the speedy process? Look at the Paris museum and library pages - they're simply too complicated an issue to handle in this way.

We do not need speedy deletion. We always still have regular deletion. We might even still do that for these same reasons, the point is that we will do it by a more measured process of discussion, rather than single-handed one-opinion deletion.

I can see no way to make these two criteria robust enough to use for speedy deletion, therefore I propose that they are removed. We still have regular deletion and these would be good reasons to seek that. If anyone can instead reword them to address the issues here, then that might also be a solution. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Weak support rather than single-handed one-opinion deletion. Just an FYI but there was a discussion about adding the "single image" criteria to the guideline. There was a discussion on the Village Pump about deleting galleries that were under a certain amount of bytes that essentially everyone supported at the time. So I wouldn't say this whole thing was based purely on mine or anyone else's opiniom. That said, both discussions probably could have had more participation and thought put into them. As there's clearly to many kinds of galleries and opinions about it on both sides to make a blanket judgement that they should qualify for speedy deletion. At least at this point. Although that's with the caviet that I don't think galleries that have been speedy deleted so far shouldn't just undeleted in mass purely because the guideline is being changed. Undeletions shoulds still go through normal process and judged on individual merrit. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Andy Dingley, for starting this discussion. I agree that:
  • Speedy deletions should only be used when it is clear that no reasonable Commons editor would be expected to have a good reason to disagree.
  • A complex deletion is never a candidate for speedy. For me a gallery which represents significant editor effort is such a complex deletion. And also if a discussion about similar gallery pages is going on (no matter whether it represents significant editor effort or not), then it is clear that the deletion is not 'simple' and would be uncontested.
  • GA2. User intended to create encyclopedic content is no reason for speedy deletion. At least the creator should get time to move or copy the content to a better place.
But I do think there are many gallery pages that meet the criteria of GA1. Gallery page without at least two images or other media files. But I now think the description needs some additions:
  • Exclude gallery pages which represents significant editor effort.
  • Before nominating a gallery page for speedy deletion based on GA1, the editor who intend to do this and the administrator who actually deletes the gallery page should both check the history of the gallery page to see wether the gallery page once contained more images; and in case of yes: then the gallery page can still be nominated for deletion, but not with a speedy deletion.
--JopkeB (talk) 07:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. But further to that for GA1, I think we should also recognise the situation of an 'empty gallery' on top of a category of many potential images. If we could simply populate that gallery from resources we already have, then why delete it? Andy Dingley (talk) 12:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]