Commons:Village pump/Proposals/Archive/2021/04

Basic upload form

RESOLVED:

Since there were no objections raised, the proposed change has been implemented. You may need to clear your browser cache to see the change. Kaldari (talk) 18:35, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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The basic upload form input box is only 11 lines high. I use this a lot as I have prepared information templates ready to use. However, these are typically 15-20 lines high (depending on the number of categories to add), which means I have to resize the box with every upload, which is somewhat tedious. Can the Basic upload form input box be increased to 20 lines high, please? - MPF (talk) 18:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

 Support, makes sense.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 23:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

 Support yes, please, that's been bothering me as well on occasion. --El Grafo (talk) 06:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

 Comment - thanks @Jeff G. and El Grafo: for the support! What is the next step in the process? Do I just wait for it to be done (in roughly how long?), or is there some other action needed? - MPF (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@MPF: One of your colleagues should judge the consensus, and then someone can start a phabricator task for it.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 21:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

•  Support, makes sense. What would even be better if it had settings users can customise for however they see fit. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Support, makes sense.--Vulphere 04:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Support, definitely yes! -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 21:44, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Support, yes, please, it's quite useful.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 04:22, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment Practical suggestion: I would imagine that there is some way to change the size of this box also in your personal css. Wouldn't that be a cleaner approach? Don't have a fundamental objection to 20 over 11 though, but this way you could make it easily 30 without bothering anyone else's setup/preferences. Effeietsanders (talk) 02:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

  @MPF and El Grafo: This worked for me: [1]. But I would appreciate it if someone more technically minded can confirm this is the best solution (I don't know if there's a downside to using CSS for this - given that it uses ID, I would be surprised if there is a side effect). Effeietsanders (talk) 02:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

  @Effeietsanders: - thanks, but too complicated for me :-) MPF (talk) 18:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

  @MPF: Out of curiosity, what is the complicated part? You can copy the single line to user:MPF/common.css and click save. That should do the trick. Given the history of this request, I don't know how long this will take to get processed, even if there is deemed to be enough of a consensus. Effeietsanders (talk) 22:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

  @Effeietsanders: making any changes to that page - I don't dare touch that sort of thing (technophobe here!) - MPF (talk) 22:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Bringing this one back up as a reminder - not sure why it has been archived, as the requested changes haven't been made yet despite the support for it - MPF (talk) 13:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Who is supposed to judge consensus here, an admin? 172.58.239.32 14:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

•  Support Christian Ferrer ^(talk) 21:48, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --RZuo (talk) 10:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Sharing .blend files as organised 3D files

Hello gentlemen,

I search for a way to share an open-source anatomy atlas, gathering hundreds of .obj files, organized within blender. 3D is the language of nature; .blend files allow to add animation (+time=4D); sound, and many other informations.

As I understand easily that even if the format could be up and downloaded; the possibility to link words to specific files within an organized blend would be still another question.

So I would really like to get your advices about what I should do with this 3d anatomy atlas that I would like to open to collaborative development in the manner of wikipedia.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6782943197493628929/

Best regards and thank you for working for the commons,

Gauthier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melodicpinpon (talk • contribs) 07:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Anyone with a LinkedIn account can you please have a look at this proposed upload? De728631 (talk) 16:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Jonathan Christoph Berthold, Korrektur fehlerhafter Eintragung - Rücksprache sinnvoll

Sehr geehrte Mitarbeiter, In der Biografie von Jonathan Christoph Berthold sind fehlerhafte Eintragungen zu korrigieren. Mein Grßvater mütterlicherseits, Joseph Reinhold Reinisch (1867_01_31) hat in einem ausführlichen Stammbaum vermerkt:

seine Grßmutter war Maria Magdalena Neumann ( 22 Sep 1791 - 31 Jan 1876), verh.14 Apr 1814 in Spitzkunnersdorf/Löbau- 
 Zittau . Sie hatten 5 Kinder, wovon der erste Sohn Gustav Adolph Berthold war. Ich habe versucht ein Bild von diesem, was sein Neffe, Heinrich Graf gemalt hatte, in seine Biografie einzufügen. Übrigens wäre es sinnvoll Heinrich Graf mit in Wikimedia aufzunehmen, da er bemerkenswerte Werke hinterlassen hat. Leider brauchte ich dazu Unterstützung.

In Erwartung ihrer Antwort verbleibt Dierk Scheumann dierkscheumann@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dierk Scheumann (talk • contribs) 16:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hallo Dierk Scheumann. Das hier ist nicht Wikipedia, sondern Wikimedia Commons, eine Sammlung von freien Bildern und anderen Medien für alle Wikimedia-Projekte. Änderungen zu dem Artikel Jonathan Christoph Berthold in der deutschen Wikipedia sollten auf der Diskussionseite des Artikels besprochen werden. Für Heinrich Graf siehe bitte die Wikipedia:Artikelwünsche (ebenfalls Wikipedia). De728631 (talk) 16:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Please can we install the FormWizard gadget on Commons

Hi

Please can we have FormWizard installed on Commons? Its a WMF maintained gadget already installed on several Wikimedia projects including English Wikipedia and Wikidata. I'd like to use it for documentation I'm working on for Structured Data on Commons and I'm sure it could be used to simplify some processes using templates.

Phabricator request here

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 10:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• @John Cummings: , as this is a technical feature that doesn't remove any current features, does this even need "community consensus"? Perhaps it's easier to just propose it at the Phabricator. If consensus is needed then I  Support it. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:32, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks very much Donald Trung, done, see above. John Cummings (talk) 22:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Update I've been told I want the gadget version, not the extension version. Not sure where to request this. John Cummings (talk) 11:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Example discussion

Should we rename this category to "Category:Examples" as Commonswiki cats are typically plural? --SpBot (talk) 03:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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This version isn't definite, it is just how I envision it to be easy to see. Since most category talk are never created I assume that the (un)deletion requests should be listed on top. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:23, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Split to make it a separate proposal. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. I agree that talk pages could be used but you would end up with a ridiculous number of category talk pages filled up with garbage just because an image was a lot of categories. Just grabbing something at random, Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Ensvensktigerskylt2 djuramossa.jpg would result in pages like Category talk:1941 in Sweden and Category talk:Tigers in art amongst others have oddball notices. I would be happier if we at least had discussions involving the category itself mentioned on the talk page. I really think we need to start something like en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting and from there, create a list of categories and then have alerts from that. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:38, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
  • @Ricky81682: , creating a list of categories with alerts is literally what I proposed above (at "Categorising deletion requests), though I worded it less eloquently as you did. Though Wikimedia Commons is different because we can have entire categories of files in the public domain where a user that fundamentally misunderstands copyright © can tag images as "missing a source" and then these will automatically get deleted within ten (10) days. The worst thing about this is that notification 🔔 lists, e-mail notifications, Etc. don't always notify users and unless users specifically use automated tools, then the original uploader won't be notified about such deletions. Category talk pages would then serve to preserve the history as speedy deletions and / or automated deletions don't always get listed somewhere making recovery more difficult. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Also, regarding deletion requests "flooding" archives are a thing, a bot can automatically sort files and archive them after 6 (six) months and then these talk pages wouldn't get flooded. If over a hundred images get nominated and / or tagged in a single month then months can also be used for future readability's sake. The main problem is that Wikimedia Commons categories are very much under-utilised as a tool for anything other than direct image organisation, I don't watch the talk pages of every single person that uploads an image of a Dutch windmill, but I do watch most of those categories (for example). --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Subdivisions of France

I just need someone with some knowledge of French history to confirm a logical way to break down France by location. It is currently organized with separate trees into a mess of departments (some listing their "present-day" location), some by regions but no History by province (not suggesting it necessarily). By my reading, a 'useful' way would be to organize by en:provinces of France for history until 1791. From 1791, France was organized into 101 en:Departments of France. In 1982, France was also organized into 22 (13 in 2016) en:regions of France. Alternatively, one could use departments for all time (with "present-day" location for every date before 1791) with regions for the current time period and (perhaps) provinces for the older ones. This is separate from history by city. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Please anyone else comment at Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/04/Category:Île-de-France in the 13th century. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

You will certainly have a larger audience (or at least an audience with a stronger opinion on the issue) in Commons:Bistro, where you can write in English if you wish it, because many users understand English . Christian Ferrer ^(talk) 10:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks! To get the extent of this, Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/04/Category:Present-day Midi-Pyrénées in the 3rd century BC is about whether artifacts from France in the 3rd century BC should be organized by former regions used from 1982 until 2015. So much chaos when France reorganized in 2016. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Add Volume Title to {{Book}}

Currently {{Book}} has no field for Volume Title, e.g. the specific name given to a volume in a series. I’m proposing to add this common bit of metadata. Languageseeker (talk) 05:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

•  Support, as more information is always better, especially since titles are literally what differentiates books at one glance. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Review category and a new container category for all kinds of commons files needing review

there are Category:License review needed Category:Media needing category review Category:To be checked Category:Singers to check Category:South by Southwest to check...

i decided to make {{Review category}} that would automatically transclude relevant header templates for any such cat. see Category:WLE 2016 Pakistan unreviewed Category:Singers to check for demo. please feel free to edit and improve the template.

i'd also like to propose a new Category:Files requiring review that would be a flat list of all these cats that transclude {{Review category}}.

what do you think?--RZuo (talk) 10:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

• I don't think that creating "Category:Files requiring review" goes against any current policy and / or guideline and as it's simply a transclusion of already existing pages it is handy to create as an easier to manage page. I don't think that creating such a page requires community consensus, but I do think that it would be best to leave a message regarding its creation in the main village pump after creating it, so people know what pages to watch to find images needing a review. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:20, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Bot that deletes Copy to Wikimedia Commons template

I am proposing a potential bot that removes the Copy to Wikimedia Commons template on all files that have this template, as it is redundant. Any thoughts on this? EpicPupper (talk) 17:30, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

 Oppose, @EpicPupper: {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} is a sort of "files transferred from other wikis that need review" indicator. Patrollers should be removing it, not a bot.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 18:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Jeff G., sorry, I wasn't aware of this before, as there was no documentation included in the template, and the template simply states that it is redundant. I think I'll withdraw this proposal. EpicPupper (talk) 03:50, 1 May 2021 (UTC)