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Info created by Joydeep (talk) - uploaded by Joydeep (talk) - nominated by Joydeep (talk) -- Joydeep (talk) 18:12, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Support -- Joydeep (talk) 18:12, 26 April 2012 (UTC)- Support Tomer T (talk) 18:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support Yann (talk) 19:00, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Question I think, you made a photograph from the Durga idol by an other artist in a temple. The Durga idol seems to be not old, therefore the artist of the Durga idol is the copyright-holder, not you. Is it like I think? In this case this image will be deleted, if you cannot send a copyright-renunciation by the copyright-holder to wikimedia. Please see the regulations by commons.wikimedia.org. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 19:59, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- This idol is not from a temple. Every year the durga idols are made, worshiped in temporary temples known as "pandals". After 5days of the festival the idols are immersed in water of river, ponds etc. Next year new idols are made. This photograph was taken in 2011 and the idol was immersed in water. This idol does not exist now, only the photograph exists. Please see [1] -- Joydeep (talk) 03:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, the copyright on your file is by the artist, who made the idol. You made only a copy of his work. You cannot give his copyright to wikimedia commons. Only the artist can do this with a copyright-renunciation. Please have a look to other images on your userpage with other copyright-violations. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 13:53, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- But there are many photos of durga idol on commons and wikipedia. What about them? They all should come under the same "copyright-violation". So all the images of durga idol should be deleted from commons and wikipedia if this image has to be deleted. This image is a valued image within a scope and there are many categories which contain so many images of durga idol. Many of the images of durga idol are there in commons for many years. I have seen those images before uploading and then decided to upload this image. Please see Category:Durga, Category:Durga Puja, Category:Durga Puja (West Bengal) and the sub-categories. I don't think this image violates any copyright but I don't have any problem if the image is deleted for copyright-violation. I just have to say that all the images of durga idol should be treated in a same way. If this file is deleted then all the file of durga idol should be deleted. -- Joydeep (talk) 15:12, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- I was invited to share my opinion on this issue, since I supported. I probably know less about coppyvios than Michael Gäbler, but his arguments seem rational. Even if there is Freedom of Panorama in India, I don't think temporal art can be photographed and published without premission and a licence grant. I have to admit that I didn't put thought about this aspect earlier, sorry for that. The best thing to do will be to open a deletion request, and it will be only fair, and of course reasonable, to open in the same time deletion requests about all other images of Durga idols in the same state as this one. Tomer T (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- But there are many photos of durga idol on commons and wikipedia. What about them? They all should come under the same "copyright-violation". So all the images of durga idol should be deleted from commons and wikipedia if this image has to be deleted. This image is a valued image within a scope and there are many categories which contain so many images of durga idol. Many of the images of durga idol are there in commons for many years. I have seen those images before uploading and then decided to upload this image. Please see Category:Durga, Category:Durga Puja, Category:Durga Puja (West Bengal) and the sub-categories. I don't think this image violates any copyright but I don't have any problem if the image is deleted for copyright-violation. I just have to say that all the images of durga idol should be treated in a same way. If this file is deleted then all the file of durga idol should be deleted. -- Joydeep (talk) 15:12, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, the copyright on your file is by the artist, who made the idol. You made only a copy of his work. You cannot give his copyright to wikimedia commons. Only the artist can do this with a copyright-renunciation. Please have a look to other images on your userpage with other copyright-violations. --Michael Gäbler (talk) 13:53, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- This idol is not from a temple. Every year the durga idols are made, worshiped in temporary temples known as "pandals". After 5days of the festival the idols are immersed in water of river, ponds etc. Next year new idols are made. This photograph was taken in 2011 and the idol was immersed in water. This idol does not exist now, only the photograph exists. Please see [1] -- Joydeep (talk) 03:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- I have always said that applying this copyright reasoning to images of Hindu religious art is meaningless. This leads to absurd conclusions. This art has been copied by millions of artists over centuries without any regard for previous ownership. At best, some acknowledgement of famous art are done. Yann (talk) 04:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed: unlikely to be copyrightable if it is essentially derivative from a traditional school. --Claritas (talk) 09:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- As per Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#India, not copyrighted. Shot in Durga Puja pandal which is a public area. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:32, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed: unlikely to be copyrightable if it is essentially derivative from a traditional school. --Claritas (talk) 09:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support Good. -- Raghith 06:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Oppose Crop is very tight, picture is distorted. --Paolo Costa (talk) 22:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 4 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 18:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
