Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by VladoubidoOo

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Files uploaded by VladoubidoOo (talk · contribs)

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{{No source since|month=July|day=25|year=2023}}

Edelseider (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Yes, "Source: Google" is dubious, but the images seem to be properly attributed to painters who have died long ago. So the images are all PD. As per official Commons Rule, a 2D reproduction of a PD painting does not add a new copyright, so it doesn't matter whether the uploader scanned the file themselves or took them from somewhere on the internet. PaterMcFly (talk) 12:34, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@PaterMcFly: there is no problem with the copyrights (although some paintings are shown with their frame, which makes these images non-PD). The problem is that the "somewhere on the internet" that you so rightly mention is not indicated. Google is just the search engine that was used to find these pictures on several different sites. Which sites? We aren't told, and that's the problem. --Edelseider (talk) 14:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So the problem is that we cannot verify the author without a source? I agree, that should be improved, but if we have no copyright issue, we shouldn't delete the images but take the time to fix that. Some of the images are even in use, so we can assume that the painters are properly attributed. All images seem to have the collection/museum where the original is in the description, so this should technically be sufficient to verify the PD status. PaterMcFly (talk) 14:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep Of course, I vote to keep all these images on Commons. For each file, I have always indicated the name of the author of the painting (according to the most recent published research), and the place of location. I have always categorized all of these files (exept perhaps a few oversights, my apologies) with the category of the artist concerned. I recognize that I should also have included the categories related to the subject (iconography) and the place of conservation, but this information can be completed. Regarding the source of the file, it seems to me that these works are in the public domain (as the faithful reproduction of a work in two dimensions, and whose author died more than 70 years ago) and that the information on the source (website...) can be added, without it being necessary to delete the files and thus destroy several years of work.

--VladoubidoOo (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep per PaterMcFly. All these images need is someone to go through, however painfully, and add sources. I've already tried to provide a source for File:Cazes Christ guérissant l'hémorroïsse Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris.jpg. It'll just take some time.
BusterTheMighty (talk) 05:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep No copyright issue. All are in the PD. -- Herbert Ortner (talk) 09:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@VladoubidoOo: well yes, of course, you have several days to correctly fill the Source field with the link to the page from where you downloaded each image before uploading it here. It's not like there will be a mass deletion in a few hours. But you cannot keep "Source = Google", because the next stage would be "Author = paintbrush".--Edelseider (talk) 17:34, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Edelseider: of course, and I agree. However, I need to be sure that the files will not be deleted in seven days by a bot, as the banner that has been integrated on each of them suggests (having a job outside of my activity here, I won't have time to correct all the sources of the files by then). I will be able to make these corrections as I go, over the next few weeks, but it will take time. --VladoubidoOo (talk) 21:28, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A deletion discussion (such as this one) is never closed by a bot, only manually by an administrator. They can leave the thread open for much longer than 7 days if there's no clear consensus nor any obvious reason for deletion. So take your time. PaterMcFly (talk) 06:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Also Speedy or Regular-Deletion nomination, not both. If someone removes the speedy, you are not supposed to restore it. --RAN (talk) 04:03, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Per PaterMcFly. No apparent copyright problems. Yes the source is, well, yes, but the photos are PD in the first place. We can always add the source back in, though this may take a while since, well, so many files are listed. S5A-0043Talk 11:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per discussion. --Krd 04:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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