Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Srbernadette

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Historical photos and painting. Proper author/date/country of creation information should be supplied to determine copyrights status.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

- Frank Holl's painting of Sir Thomas Martineau was done in 1887. Please add that to the information Thanks203.132.68.1 00:24, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - Keep the portrait of Martineau. Holl died in 1888, so this should be fine. - Jmabel ! talk 01:45, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - And I think we can keep File:Queen Victoria's visit to Birmingham with Sir Thomas Martineau. Mayor of Birmingham (center) 1887.jpg as well. It's from 1887, I presume that even with an unknown author that is old enough (130 years) to presume PD, no? - Jmabel ! talk 01:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    - Keep - the first one has no copyrights anymore, the second one (the newspaper) is questionable, but it's very old and I think old enough, so if it is kept, it's fine by me. - Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 11:20, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: All fixed now. --Yann (talk) 09:00, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not own works, probably in the public domain for some, but license must be corrected.

File:Gallerytraditional-plaque-church c831756c64c3e7a63097aa6f179b6303.jpg
- Delete 1975 image of a 1975 plaque with no exif data. --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Mannix College, Monash university 1969.jpg
- Similar to Commons:Deletion requests/File:1958 Monash University, Interim Council.jpg but the book is from 2012 and 1969 is far from the 1955 requirement for PD-Australia -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Yes, outside the 70 year rule. --RAN (talk) 21:50, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Air Ministry Chief - Sir Christopher Bullock.jpg
- This is a public newspaper from nearly 90 years ago so I imagine that this is out of any copyright and is ok to use Fivebills (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Delete Seems to still have been in copyright in the UK in 1996 and will therefore be copyrighted in the US until 95 years from publication, i. e. 2031. Felix QW (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Alan Lupton carriage driving with his son Alan Cecil Lupton wearing boater at right, rear (1).jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment Apparently from the obituary in the 2nd March, 1918 edition of The Graphic. Felix QW (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Can be kept, 70 years after publication per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United Kingdom. Ellywa (talk) 21:29, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Alan Lupton - Carriage driving.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment Apparently from the obituary in the 6th March, 1918 edition of The Bystander. Felix QW (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Can be kept, 70 years after publication per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United Kingdom. Ellywa (talk) 21:30, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:1962 - Deakin Hall, Monash University - The J.A. McDonell Room Dining Hall.jpg
- Delete Yes, outside the 70 year rule. --RAN (talk) 22:45, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Oil painting - Sir Robert Loder, 1st Baronet.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Keep Or better PD-old-assumed if we cannot ascertain whether the portraitist is unknown. Felix QW (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:The Princess Royal with Mr H.D. Middleton, 1932 - Yorkshire Post.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 19:32, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Delete Still copyrighted in the US until 2027. Felix QW (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:The Princess Royal being escorted by Mr H.D. Middleton around Leeds Infirmary - Feb. 26, 1932.jpg
- - Delete Still copyrighted in the US until 2027. Felix QW (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Capt. Arthur Daryl Middleton.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment This one is particularly tricky, since I cannot even find the image on the source page given in the description, whether live or in the WayBackMachine. The description gives a 1927 date, but also includes a newspaper snippet dated 1942. If it has been first published in the US sense in 1942, it would certainly still be protected in the US until 2038. If it has been published anonymously in the UK (whether in 1927 or 1942) and it has been published in the American sense in 1927, then it would be fine since this year. Currently, though, I can't verify those assumptions. Felix QW (talk) 17:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - . Photo is from WWI - and was published - i.e. on display - at Northhampton Museum listed here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/northampton_museum/3004995722/in/photolist-5zxqoL-5zxxBq-5zxox5-5zxmE1-5zxmbd

I will upload it if that's ok. Thanks 175.38.42.62 04:36, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Image of Mrs Francis Lupton from the book A Short History of Leeds Girls High School 1876-1906 by K.E. Procter (1926).png
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 01:48, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Old enough for PD-old-assumed and published by 1926, so more than 95 years ago. Felix QW (talk) 09:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Ralph Middleton - University College, Oxford 1928.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 18:52, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In this case, though, we do know nothing about its publication history, anonymous or otherwise. At the very earliest, it would enter PD in the US in 2024, 95 years after creation. Felix QW (talk) 09:54, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Roland Kitson, 3rd Baron Airedale.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In this case, though, we do know nothing about its publication history, anonymous or otherwise. At the very earliest, it would enter PD in the US in 2025, 95 years after creation. Felix QW (talk) 08:18, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Princess Mary (far left) with Sir Charles Lupton (3rd from left) in Leeds, Tuesday October 3rd, 1922-page-001 (2) (1).jpg
- PD-UK-unknown more than 70 yo newspaper --RAN (talk) 22:43, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep PD-UK-Unknown and PD-US-Expired. Felix QW (talk) 09:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Kept per Felix QW. Ellywa (talk) 21:33, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Cecil Middleton 1931 University College, Oxford.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not PD in the US until 2027 at the earliest. Felix QW (talk) 09:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Christopher Bullock; knighted in 1932 at Buckingham Palace.jpg
- This is a family photograph from 1932 Fivebills (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- PD-UK-unknown by age, not because it is "family photograph". --RAN (talk) 22:00, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete Not PD in the US until 2028 at the earliest. Felix QW (talk) 09:58, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Sir Christopher Bullock.jpg
- This is a family photograph from 1932 Fivebills (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- PD-UK-unknown by age, not because it is "family photograph". --RAN (talk) 22:00, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Not PD in the US until 2028 at the earliest; low quality duplicate of the above. Felix QW (talk) 09:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Mater Christi College and Convent, Belgrave c.1963.jpg
- Delete --RAN (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Sr Margaret Mahony - Principal, Mater Christi College, Belgrave 1967-69.jpg
- Delete --RAN (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Fairfield, Park Avenue, Roundhay - childhood home of Captain Peter Middleton.jpg
- Delete --RAN (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:The Elms, Church Lane, Chapel Allerton, Leeds - home of Joseph Lupton.jpg
- Delete --RAN (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Lady Mayoress Elinor Lupton (right) with Princess Mary at Leeds Art Gallery.jpg
- Delete --RAN (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:1927 - Lord Mayor Hugh Lupton (in Mayoral chains) at a luncheon in Leeds with Lord Harewood (left).jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 19:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot access the source, but another image on the source has credits, so deleted per COM:PRP. Ellywa (talk) 21:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Note after deletion by myself undeleted by Yann. Ellywa (talk) 20:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Lupton family crest (wolf's head erased, seen in 1924) - granted to Dr. Roger Lupton by King Henry VII (2).jpg
- PD-UK, again from a PD version of Burkes, I can see the b&w scan, uploader had access to a color scan
File:Bonis Hall, Prestbury, home of Sir Robert Burrows.jpg
- Delete --RAN (talk) 03:37, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Historical Plaque - Mater Christi College.jpg
- This is the worst problem. It says it's 3 July 2022 upload by the uploader which would be perfectly fine if we trust the uploader about it. The Exif metadata seems to match that story. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The photo is probably by the uploader, but the text may be sufficiently complex to attract copyright, and would then not be covered by Australian FoP. Felix QW (talk) 22:38, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Postcard of Newton Hall, Potternewton, near Leeds, England, c.1900.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:44, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not unknown, as the photographer is credited. All I can find about J. Candlish Ruddock is that he had a studio in Alnwick in 1904 and that he contributed photos to a magazine article in 1921. Felix QW (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted per COM:PRP, photo is credited. Perhaps undelete in 2030 for safety. Ellywa (talk) 21:37, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Kate Lupton, Baroness von Schunck.png
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 19:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep We could relicense this PD-old-assumed, in my opinion. The subject was 67 in 1900, so the dating seems reasonable enough, and as a formal studio portrait it should be considered published by US law quite close to its creation date. Felix QW (talk) 10:03, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Kate Lupton, Baroness von Schunck.pdf
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 19:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)-[reply]
Delete Low resolution pdf version of the graphic above. Felix QW (talk) 10:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:University of Surrey at Battersea - Est. in 1966.jpg

Keep. Picture dated 1894/Unknown photographer so should just need {{PD-UK-unknown}} in the license field. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:22, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Actually, the source given in the description tells us that the image was first published in an American magazine, making it a simple case of PD-US-expired without regard to authorship. Felix QW (talk) 12:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Photo of crest of Sacred Heart College, Newtown, Geelong.jpg
Delete --RAN (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Photo of crest of Clonard College, Herne Hill, Geelong.png
Delete --RAN (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:Photo of Mater Christi College, Belgrave. Crest.jpg
Delete --RAN (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
File:St Bede's College, Mentone circa WWII.jpg
- PD-Australia --RAN (talk) 21:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep PD-Australia since 1994 regardless of publication since copyright in Australia then expired 50 years after the photo was taken. Felix QW (talk) 14:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Kate Middleton's 7 x great grandfather Sir Thomas Blakistan Conyers in 1810.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly PD-old and contemporaneously published. Felix QW (talk) 14:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Coat of arms of Martineau family - Colonel Ernest Martineau, son of Sir Thomas Martineau.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown --RAN (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Copyrighted in the US until 2026 if the source given is the first publication. Felix QW (talk) 14:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Lupton family crest.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown Appears to come from Burkes Peerage, republished in 2001 but copied from Burkes. --RAN (talk)
  - For this one (now I'm part of the problem), can we determine that without knowing what the original looked like? We have literally no context to know if it's a republication or anything. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can be kept, derivative work without creative addition of the other version (see above). Ellywa (talk) 21:40, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:Brooksbank Baronetcy coat-of-arms.jpg
- PD-UK-unknown Appears to come from Burkes Peerage, the creator is using "TC" but I don't see a credit as to who TC is.
File:Beechwood Estate, Roundhay.jpg

Yann (talk) 13:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Fivebills: Please propose a license for these files. Family photographs may not have been published until recently, so it could be an issue. Yann (talk) 18:40, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless licensing is fixed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I was going through these individually precisely because this is too complex a mess to do in a single discussion. A lot of these are old but a number are just plain confusing to determine. I don't think I would support a wholesale deletion of these files but perhaps tag them all with Template:wrong license and review them. The uploader definitely needs to be warned and stopped from uploading new images until they work on these though. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the objective is not deletion, but fixing the license, whenever it is possible. However I am not sure all these are in the public domain. I did fix the license that for easy cases. Here are the remaining ones. Input from the uploader could help. Yann (talk) 22:32, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Deletion requests" may be our best option though lol :) @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): , not all of your comments in this history ended up with signatures so this thread is already becoming what I feared. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Big list, I will work on more during the week. --RAN (talk) 22:39, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Two items claimed to be from before 1928, File:1927 - Lord Mayor Hugh Lupton (in Mayoral chains) at a luncheon in Leeds with Lord Harewood (left).jpg and File:Lupton family crest (wolf's head erased, seen in 1924) - granted to Dr. Roger Lupton by King Henry VII (2).jpg have already been deleted, so I can't actually help verify whether they are PD in the US and the UK. Felix QW (talk) 12:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, these 2 are OK. Yann (talk) 18:42, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination and discussion, kept several, deleted several others. --Ellywa (talk) 21:43, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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