Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by PODZO DI BORGO

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Files uploaded by PODZO DI BORGO (talk · contribs)

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All delcared as CC-BY-SA self but like File:L'Arroseur_arrosé,_film_de_Louis_Lumière_(1895).jpg is old and not uploaders work or File:Curtis Choy with a CP-15 16mm camera (cropped).jpg which is maybe cropped File:Tireuse 35 mm Debrie Tipro.jpg which may be scanned by the uploader but not made the photo. So I don't think we can trust the uploader on all his other upload claiming he is the author.

Avron (talk) 10:33, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bonsoir,
Je ne comprends absolument pas le sens de votre démarche. Une grande partie des documents que vous proposez à la suppression ont été photographiés par mes soins et beaucoup d'autres aussi proviennent directement de Wiki Commons. Quelques-uns (photogrammes de films) ont été capturés par mes soins pour illustrer des films qui ne diraient rien aux lecteurs sans ces documents. Je suis en effet collectionneur de caméras argentiques (j'en possède 139 exactement) et d'une trentaine d'appareils de projection. Que faut-il que je fasse pour empêcher cette destruction de masse et d'information ?
Good evening,
I absolutely do not understand the meaning of your approach. Many of the documents you propose for deletion have been photographed by me and many others also come directly from Wiki Commons. Some (stills of films) were captured by me to illustrate films which would mean nothing to readers without these documents. I am indeed a collector of film cameras (I own 139 exactly) and about thirty projection devices. What should I do to prevent this mass and information destruction? PODZO DI BORGO (talk) 18:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello PODZO DI BORGO, I would like to have all the photos but you have used "own work" on many files where you are not the author like File:L'Arroseur_arrosé,_film_de_Louis_Lumière_(1895).jpg. It is important to know where you are the real photographer and where not. Scanning or photogphing a photo doesn't make you the author.Avron (talk) 10:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The principle adopted by you : he makes a mistake, therefore everything is wrong in his contributions, is a rather revolting aberration. Yes, I scanned a frame from Louis Lumière's film; the scan being made by me, I correctly marked that this document had been made by me. Retorting that it was Louis Lumière who shot the film is an aberration and very shocking. On Wikipedia France, I am the only one who knows early cinema well and it was I in particular who specified that Louis Lumière was the only inventor of the Cinematograph camera, and not "the Lumière brothers". To pretend that I wanted to steal this image from Louis Lumière's film is cruel, to say the least! Presenting this element to me as proof that everything else is false, I can't believe my eyes! My personal portraits (PODZO DI BORGO is my nickname, my name is Jean-Claude Morin) ar false ? The photos of my wife Marie-France Briselance were taken by me, they ar false also ? Cinema accessories (cameras, projector, etc) are parts of my collection and they are on photos taken by me, false ? I also took pictures of equipment at the permanent exhibition of the Cinémathèque française, false of course ǃ If you delete everything, I will put them back (big work, thank youǃ), this time using my real name. Recommendation: read a few articles from Wikipedia France before brandishing the axe! PODZO DI BORGO (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please, no offense to you, we can clarify this. But we have a Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle. And on commons we get every day tons of images with from people they have just taken from the internet but claim they are the author. And if we find photo with are clearly false claim, so how can we trust the uploader for other photos? So please change the images where you aren't the copyrightholder to the correct information. For File:L'Arroseur arrosé, film de Louis Lumière (1895).jpg the author is Louis Lumière and the license is pd-old. I've done this for this file and File:Les Kiriki, acrobates japonais, film réalisé par Segundo de Chomón (1907).jpg as an example.Avron (talk) 17:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
P.S.: In File:Jean-Claude Morin sur le tournage du téléfilm "La Tisane de sarments" (1979).jpg Jean-Claude Morin is shown, but also it is said that he is the author. That is physically not possible. Maybe you are somehow the copyright-owner but not the author.Avron (talk) 06:40, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What a pity to read something like this ǃ Yes, it is impossible to take a photo of I, but it is with my camera that my friend, Philippe Théaudière (director of photography of the film) took this picture during a rehearsal. He did not claim to be the author of the picture I keep in my personnal photo-library. Copyright-owner, yes I am. It is the same thing, the same rights... Other pictures show me (Jean-Claude Morin) or my wife Marie-France Briselance. Made with my camera. I have at home a collection of 155 old film camera and other cine-tools. I took pictures of them for enhancing many Wikipedia articles. Majority of them are proposed to be erased. It is absurdǃ PODZO DI BORGO (talk) 17:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But your claim is: "own work", which you admit is not true, Why don't you write author: "Philippe Théaudière" and change the licence accordingly? You claim also "own work" for images like File:Conducteur de bruitage du film "Victory" (1913).jpg or File:Acte_de_naissance_au_Minihic-sur-Rance_(France)_de_William_Kennedy_Laurie_Dickson_(1860-8-3).jpg and many others. Instead of clarifying, where are you real author, where you might have copyrights or where the license may be pd-old or whatever all you do is lamenting how bad the world is. Avron (talk) 07:23, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: most of them, deleted some as noted above. Some of the deleted files can perhaps be restored with a COM:VRT permission if noted, or when more information is given about the actual source (like the publication something was taken from), year and place of creation/publication. Or at least a year for the restoration can be set, like I already have done for a few files where I felt there was enough information. --Rosenzweig τ 19:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.

Files uploaded by PODZO DI BORGO (talk · contribs)

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Not PD yet and not CC0.

— Racconish💬 13:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 23:00, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]