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PD-Yugoslavia/PD-SCGGov photos uploaded by Kos93 (talk · contribs)

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See Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Copyvios uploaded by User:Kos93.

{{PD-Yugoslavia}} is not really a licensing template, and it should never be used alone (it's emphasied in bold in the template actually), so basically PD-Yugoslavia-only pictures have no license at all. Of course it many cases it can be replaced with {{PD-SCGGov}}.

{{PD-SCGGov}} template claims that

Official materials of state authorities or materials published by any other person or institution which do public function.

are free. This sounds ambigous. Do photos like above falls under the scope of the template? The problem wasn't discussed on Commons, I've found only two discussions in sr-wiki about the issue: sr:Википедија:Слике и медији са спорним статусом#НБСхолКП.JPG, sr:Корисник:Мирослав Ћика/Архива2#Војне слике. In short -- Wikimedia Serbia tried to get some legal interpretation of it, but didn't succeed, users unsure about the meaning of the law, and tend to interpret it in more strict sense. There is a comment on Template talk:PD-SCGGov from BokicaK, a Serbian user, who thinks that current use of the template on Commons is overly broad and is pretty confident "that law describe something that is written on paper, not images".

Moreover, most of the picture are essentially unsourced. So, I think these files should be deleted, unless it will be proven that 1) {{PD-SCGGov}} is applicable in this case. 2) these picture will be properly sourced.

{{PD-Yugoslavia}} alone
{{PD-Yugoslavia}} and {{PD-user-w}}
{{PD-Yugoslavia}} and {{PD-Croatia}}
{{PD-SCGGov}} alone
{{PD-SRBGov}} alone

Trycatch (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why u do a DR, when u don't have any attempt to delete them?--Sanandros (talk) 05:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What? Sorry, don't understand you. --Trycatch (talk) 08:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
u suggest to use another license and for that we don't need DR--Sanandros (talk) 18:53, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My poing is that {{PD-SCGGov}} could be added to many of PD-Yugoslavia photos (many of them already have PD-SCGGov template), but the pictures should be deleted anyway, because PD-SCGGov is not applicable here. --Trycatch (talk) 05:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I saw already a lot of them with an additional PD-Tag and would like to ask u to sort them out and if they have any copyright problems to discuss them in a different DR. The DR right now looks for me too chaotic.--Sanandros (talk) 13:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Additional tags are {{PD-SCGGov}} (that's why I wrote the whole paragraph about it) and {{PD-Croatia}} (obviously irrelevant, giving that all the files were created _after_ 1949). Tags are slightly different, but the pictures and the problem are similar -- I don't see a single reason why recent Yugoslavian/Serbian military photos without explicit permission from the copyright holder can be kept. --Trycatch (talk) 13:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes these who r scggov should be discussed diffrentliy and these who r pd croatia should also be discussed diffrently cause u will mix a lot of information in one DR. All pics with different tags are ruled under different laws or do you realy want to collect all these infromations of all these pics together? It needs just for one pic some time to check if it is ruled under the pd croatia tag and other users will have a lot of different opinion on different pics.--Sanandros (talk) 20:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I sorted the files according to their license. Hope it helps. --MGA73 (talk) 20:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK thx i will check them later.--Sanandros (talk) 05:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Trycatch, you are doing a witch hunt against User:Kos93. --188.104.125.206 18:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:An-26 sfrj.jpg, File:JRVpilots.jpg, File:JRV Thunderjet.jpg, File:M-14pl jrv.jpg, File:Mig-21m jrv.JPG, File:Myanmar g-4 super galeb.jpg, File:Orao.jpg, File:Oraoprot1 v.jpg, File:Osa Missile Boats.jpg All these files (which i just shortly checked) have pretty specified sources so it should be dealt differently than these which r just said that they r from the YAF... Plz split the DR in diffrent DRs--Sanandros (talk) 10:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
@Sanandros. I am not going to split the DR, frankly I don't see a single reason to do it. I think it would be better for everybody finally to discuss the pictures and the arguments for deletion (e.g. to find _any_ reason why _any_ pictures from the bulk could be kept), instead of endless discussions about the DR procedure and other irrelevant things. What about the "pretty" sources -- do you seriously call "sources" like "Yugoslav Peoples Army - JNA" or "Originally from en.wikipedia; description page is/was [1]." (while the original description from en-wiki was just == Licensing == {{PD-self}}) pretty? Well, they are neither pretty nor verifiable. --Trycatch (talk) 11:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close and renominate. The discussion above makes me think that there are multiple situations for these images — many of them seem to be suitable and not covered by the nominator's statement due to the presence of other licenses, so a mass nomination isn't appropriate. Please drop the nomination on some of them and renominate the rest, or nominate each group of images separately. Nyttend (talk) 21:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: FASTILYs (TALK) 20:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.

Files uploaded by Kos93 (talk · contribs)

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Smaller duplicates of File:IK_104P_VS1.jpg, not needed to have four gigantic files of same photo by same uploader.

Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:50, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well those three are not the same photos, if you zoom on registration plates of buses, they have P-2233 (IK_104P_VS1.jpg), P-2229 (IK_104P_VS2.jpg), P-2230 (K_104P_VS3.jpg), and P-2103 (IK_104P_VS4.jpg) registrations. Also on IK_104P_VS1.jpg you can notice blue-white-red strips on front of bus. If you need to delete photos, please do not delete all 3 of them, leave the IK_104P_VS2.jpg to have images of two visual different models of IK-104P bus operated by Serbian Army. --Kos93 (talk) 20:45, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No good reason to keep 4 copies of the same image -FASTILY 09:04, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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