Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Another Believer

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Images had been speedy deleted as no FoP in the US. Restored per request at COM:UD to allow full discussion of whether 1970 installation satisfies {{PD-US-no notice}}.

Эlcobbola talk 15:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And does this mean we can upload something for Cat in Repose to the Commons? Hekerui (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Pre-1978 US statues need the name of the sculptor and additionally the word "Copyright", the abbreviation "Copr." or the sign "©". See section 18 in s:Copyright Act of 1909. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How interesting (and impossible to keep track of...) --Another Believer (talk)
Also the date, Stefan -- Name, date (the year will suffice) and "Copyright", "Copr.", or ©. It's usually chiseled on the plinth in the back somewhere, but the year and the © could easily have been added below the name on this plaque if he had chosen to do so. SIRIS usually reports the copyright notice as an inscription and we usually accept the lack of mention there as evidence of no-notice. Here, we have that and the plaque without the five extra required characters required ©.
Although we don't have a specific procedure for it, if Another Believer and other active photographers of such things reported the absence of notice on pre-March 1989 works, it would go a long way toward answering these questions. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 01:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Hekerui -- SIRIS does not show any inscription on either of the McCullough works it has listed -- Cat in Repose and Lion. Perhaps Another Believer or another Portland person could check, but I'd be inclined to believe that it is also PD-US-no notice.
For those interested in sculpture in the USA, I suggest you become familiar with SIRIS. It has a competent search engine and lists most significant US sculpture, although it seems to have more of the 20th century works than the 21st. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 01:25, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This particular sculpture would be difficult to inspect up close, since it is surrounded by water and jets. --Another Believer (talk) 03:47, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
True. You could pick a warm day. Or you could take a pair of binoculars that focus down to six or eight feet -- not all do. Seriously, though, I think we can put this one to bed. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:09, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
LOL Thanks to you and Stefan for the pointers to SIRIS and the specifics, I regret not checking more beforehand. Hekerui (talk) 13:26, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, the year is only required for printed literary, musical and dramatic works (see the link to the law above). This is neither a "printed" statue (whatever that would mean), nor a literary, musical or dramatic work. --Stefan4 (talk) 19:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Right you are -- one of the things I like about Commons is that I frequently learn new things about subjects I thought I thoroughly understood, thank you. I also learned that under the 1978 law, © was not allowed for books, magazines, and dramatic works. I have just changed Copyright notice which had it wrong. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: as per Jim and Stefan above. Yann (talk) 19:54, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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