Commons:Deletion requests/Files in public domain featuring actor Meena Kumari

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Files in public domain featuring actor Meena Kumari

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Post-1945 images (photos/film stills) from India, which were certainly still in copyright in India at the URAA cut-off date of 1996. Therefore their US term was extended until 95 years after their first publication.

These files subsequently went on to be in public domain in India, since the expiration of copyright in India is 50 years for work published before 1958 (which means, files dating from 1946 to 1957 came in public domain in India from 1996 to 2007) and 60 years for work published from 1958 (which means, files published in 1958 came in public domain in India from 2018, those published in 1959, from 2019 and so on) BUT they continue to be under copyright in the US, since the duration for copyright in the US is of 95 years since the date of publication. Files from India from the year 1946, can only be in public domain in the US from 2042, by earliest)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by GaiusAugustine (talk • contribs) 18:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC) (UTC)[reply]

 Keep If the films were shown in USA, then they are OK. For URAA, you have to prove that these files are affected. So if you give evidence that the films were NOT shown in USA, then this is a valid request. Yann (talk) 18:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry to put this so bluntly Yann (no offence intended), but that's nonsense: it is literally impossible to prove a negative. Xover (talk) 11:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per Yann. Contributor2020Talk to me here! 12:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment There seems to be concensus to keep files that are PD in the home country if the only issue is that they might not be PD in the US because of the URAA. --MGA73 (talk) 14:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Per COM:PRP these must be presumed to be in copyright in the US due to URAA restoration, unless specific evidence makes it at least plausible that some other factor makes them public domain. Typically that factor would be simultaneous publication in the US—that is, they were first subject to a general publication in the US within 30 days of being published in India—because in that case Berne (and because of that, Commons policy) considers them US works for copyright purposes which in turn makes them subject to US copyright formalities (notice, renewal, etc.). For a film of this era to be screen in the US within 30 days of being screened in India generally defies belief, so it requires very strong evidence that this actually took place. --Xover (talk) 11:48, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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