Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Pinacoteca Giovanni e Marella Agnelli

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Sorry, but these buildings of Renzo Piano (born 14 September 1937) are too recent and Italy has no FOP exemption. All of these files could lead to lawsuits against the Wikimedia Foundation.

 Delete per Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Auditorium Parco della Musica (Rome).

Raoli ✉ (talk) 00:53, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 00:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The building was completed in 2002 by Renzo Piano (1937–). there is no freedom of panorama in Italy, permission from the architect is required.

A1Cafel (talk) 04:36, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep File:Lo scrigno.jpg, File:Ls Pinacoteca Giovanni e Marella Agnelli progettata da Renzo Piano.jpg, File:Piemonte (174).JPG, File:Pinacoteca Agnelli - Torino.jpg, File:Pinacoteca Giovanni e Marella Agnelli.jpg, File:Torino Pinacoteca Agnelli alcuni anni fa forse autunno 2004.jpg, File:Vista dalla passerella.JPG since they were uploaded within the Wiki Loves Monuments Initiative, organized by Wikimedia Italy, as the template present in the file clearly states. As you can clearly see in the file, the organization who owns the cultural monument has authorized the publication of the images of the building with the license CC-By-SA 3.0, here. Keep the other 3 images too, since the authorization is not limited to the sole WLM iniziative, but is generic enough to allow other reproductions (it states hereby I authorize the publication of the images of the monuments owned by us or protected by us listed in this document [it follows a list with only this Pinacoteca] on Wikimedia Commons with license CC-BY-SA 3.0.--Friniate (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep There is a specific authorization about this monument, obtained by Wikimedia Italia for Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 but valid for all its photos. The authorization is valid starting from 2014, and for "the building and the external architecture" ("edificio e architettura esterna"). --Marta Arosio (WMIT) (talk) 06:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete At least for the images that there isn't explicit authorization for since I find it hard to believe said authorization extends to all photographs of the monument in perpetuity regardless of if they were taken as part of the Wiki Loves Monuments Initiative or not. A random Flickr user has no connection to Wiki Loves Monuments or the agreement between them and the municipality what-so-ever. As the quote provided by Friniate says "I authorize the publication of the images of the monuments owned by us or protected by us listed in this document." "The images" clearly means images taken by Wiki Loves Monuments that were part of the agreement, not every image of the monument ever regardless of who took it or when it was taken. I'm neutral on the images that have explicit permission though since I don't really feel like dealing with the kind of insulting, arguementive nonsense from Friniate that I received in the other DR if I say I think they should be deleted. Although I can see an argument for why they probably shouldn't be hosted on Commons anyway. For instance that the city probably doesn't own the copyright to the monument to begin with and their "agreement" doesn't extend to the United States where the original architect would probably still retain the copyright regardless. But again, I'm neutral because I don't feel like dealing with Friniate bad faithed, abusive attitude about it anymore then I've already had to in the other DR. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:37, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "Clearly" is taken from your profound knowledge of italian language isn't it? And why don't you want to delete the other two too? In the various DR you are defending 5 different thesis that contrast with each other with the sole and blatant aim to delete only for the pleasure of deleting, how can I not consider your behaviour as trolling? Friniate (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Per article 11 of the Italian Copyright Law, municipalities hold the copyright on works made on their behalf. What was linked above seems a valid permission also as regards copyright of photographs uploaded on Commons. --Ferdi2005(talk) 19:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per authorization. --Jaqen (talk) 17:26, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]