Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Photographs by Walter Stoneman

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Files in Category:Photographs by Walter Stoneman

Died in 1958, probably not PD yet.

• File:Admiral Charles Little.png
• File:Chamberlain Neville.jpg
• File:Leonard Colebrook.jpg
• File:Leonard Rogers2.jpg
• File:Sir-David-Miller-Barbour.jpg

Yann (talk) 22:00, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

• note File:Leonard Colebrook.jpg and File:Leonard Rogers2.jpg were released under CC-BY license by the Wellcome Collection. I assume they have some special arrangement for these two images. Materialscientist (talk) 22:41, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
•  Keep Chamberlain Neville.jpg per that file's licence, this is a US work published prior to 1927.  Keep Leonard Colebrook.jpg and Leonard Rogers2.jpg per Materialscientist.  Delete Sir-David-Miller-Barbour.jpg per nom. ᴀlbanɢeller (talk) 22:53, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

• Why Chamberlain Neville.jpg would be a US work? It is a portrait of an Englishman by a British photographer. We need some publication history to accept this as a US work. Yann (talk) 22:57, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

  This specific version is a 1923 work published by Mansell in Life (magazine). It being a portrait of an Englishman by a British photographer is not pertinent to the US copyright on this specific copy of the photograph. ᴀlbanɢeller (talk) 13:52, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

If it was first published in the US, or simultaneously (within 30 days) published in the UK and the US, Commons often considers the US as the source country because of the Berne Convention and its article 5 rule that “The country of origin shall be considered to be [...] in the case of works published simultaneously in several countries of the Union which grant different terms of protection, the country whose legislation grants the shortest term of protection; [...]”. If it's in the PD in the US and still protected in the UK, the US obviously had the shorter term here. So the photograph is most likely a US work, unless it was published in the UK more than 30 days before it was published in the US. --Rosenzweig τ 15:10, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

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Kept: See above, one deleted. --Yann (talk) 17:09, 10 September 2022 (UTC)