Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Paintings by Pierre Bonnard

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Files in Category:Paintings by Pierre Bonnard

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Not PD before 2018.

— Racconish ☎ 09:13, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some of this paints are older then 100 years, so it's necessary to check witch ones need to be deleted. --Codas (talk) 09:44, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If mathematics is not opinable, Bonnard died in 1947, so in 2017 it's been 70 years. PD is after 70 years from the death, not 70+1, so it's in PD since Jan. 01st 2017. --Sailko (talk) 09:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The calculation of 70 years starts from January 1, 1948 per article L. 123-1 of French copyright code: "Au décès de l'auteur, ce droit persiste au bénéfice de ses ayants droit pendant l'année civile en cours et les soixante-dix années qui suivent". On the death of the author, that right shall subsist for his successors in title during the current calendar year and the 70 years thereafter [1]. — Racconish ☎ 09:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Many of these paintings are in private collections... are we sure we cannot postpone this discussion of only 6 months?? --Sailko (talk) 10:49, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Paintings by Pierre Bonnard

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The painting, created in France in 1946, is in the public domain in its country of origin, France, but remains copyrighted in the U.S. It won't enter the public domain in the U.S. until at least 2042.

0x0a (talk) 12:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

published in "Galerie Louis Carré, Paris (sale: Ader Picard Tajan, Palais d'Orsay, Paris, 27th April 1978, lot 29C)" no copyright notice, no registration, therefore public domain in the US. --Arnoseven (talk) 17:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This does not apply to a work first published outside the U.S. 0x0a (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"If published, was the work published in an eligible country (Berne/WTO, excluding the US; use this table) and not published in the United States during the 30-day period following publication in such eligible country?" Commons:URAA-restored_copyrights#Main_tests. --Arnoseven (talk) 18:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that means that it is URAA-restored. D. Benjamin Miller (talk) 05:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, are you sure? I think we're looking at the COM:Hirtle chart case for Works Published Abroad After 1 January 1978: "Published either with or without copyright notice, and not in the public domain in its home country as of URAA date", where the instruction is to use the US publication chart. Since this was a 1978 publication, that would require registration within 5 years, otherwise {{PD-US-1978-1989}}. —holly {chat} 21:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. It's fall under {{PD-US-1978-1989}} according to the Hirtle chart. In addition, the wording of the template needs to be modified to indicate that it applicable to works published outside the U.S.. However, I'd recommend deleting the second image because its color looks distorted due to format conversion. The original image is at [2]. 0x0a (talk) 08:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
you could upload a webp version, but file type is not a rationale for deletion. Commons:Deletion_policy and "On Wikimedia Commons, the file types we recommend are: SVG, PNG, and JPEG." Commons:File types. --Arnoseven (talk) 18:23, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: I'm counting these as PD-US-no notice. as they were probably exhibited before 1978. —holly {chat} 22:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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