Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:National Health Service logos

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  • Add {{delete|reason=Fill in reason for deletion here!|subpage=Files in Category:National Health Service logos|year=2025|month=January|day=03}} to the description page of each file.
  • Notify the uploader(s) with {{subst:idw||Files in Category:National Health Service logos|plural}} ~~~~
  • Add {{Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:National Health Service logos}} at the end of today's log.
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Files in Category:National Health Service logos

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All NHS logos are protected by Crown copyright in the UK. --ZmeytheDragon16 (talk) 07:49, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep - The NHS ones don't meet the threshold of originality to be copyrighted so therefore are fine however there are a few in this selection that IMHO dont meet TOO (mostly the symbols) but it'd take forever to list the problematic ones. Keep all per TOO. –Davey2010Talk 11:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete - Some NHS Wales logos are still protected by Crown copyright, even also met as "sweat of the brow" doctorine. --ZmeytheDragon16 (talk) 03:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated their name to their new one but agreed they cannot !vote twice so have struck this, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 10:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete - As per COM:TOO United Kingdom, almost all logos are copyright protected. Even then, UK government logos are not subject to the standard provisions for copyright eligibility - this is not a matter of the threshold of originality. Crown copyright and the Open Government Licence in the UK protects government and department logos outside of normal copyrighting requirements. Section 163 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 explicitly states that work created by government ("an officer of the Crown"; such as the NHS logo) qualifies for copyright protection notwithstanding ordinary requirements. ItsPugle (talk) 04:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Right, if these logos that are eligible for graphics were used from Wales, and Northern Ireland, except the NHS logo in England and Scotland (which is public domain in the US). --The Houndsworth (talk) 07:26, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Houndsworth: As per COM:L, only content that is permissible in both the US and the country of origin can be kept. All four governments (England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland) websites use the Open Government License, which explicitly protects "departmental or public sector organisation logos". On top of that, Section 163 extends throughout the entirety of the UK, protecting all government logos (including all the ones linked above). By all regards, this material is protected in the country of origin, and therefore not eligible for uploading on Wikimedia Commons. ItsPugle (talk) 09:38, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I would keep these NHS logos, but also tagging with an OGL license tag. --The Houndsworth (talk) 13:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As I've now explained twice, the OGL is incompatible with Wikimedia Commons for government logos. These logos cannot be on Wikimedia Commons as they are not subject to standard copyright provisions under the the Copyright, Design and Patents Act 1988. They have to be deleted. ItsPugle (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep except File:Norfolk LINk.jpg, File:NHS Wales logo.svg, File:Aneurin Bevan University Health Board logo.svg, File:Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board logo.svg, File:EvelinaLogo.png & possibly File:Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland logo.svg. --Minoraxtalk 09:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Minorax: Just wanted to make sure that you've seen my above comment. Special copyright provisions apply to UK government/public service logos - they're eligible for copyright protection regardless of TOO etc, and I don't believe belong on Commons. ItsPugle (talk) 09:42, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But this file File:Norfolk LINk.jpg was created by own work within the uploader and it is on Creative Commons license, but keep it. --122.2.101.68 23:59, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That file has not been verified through COM:OTRS, so it needs to be deleted until permission can be expliclty obtained from the NHS. ItsPugle (talk) 04:47, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per discussion, except those pointed out by Minorax. --ƏXPLICIT 02:27, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Explicit: Hey! Sorry to be a pain, but would you be able to just explain why the issues I pointed out didn't seem to be considered? UK law is quite clear cut on the fact that government media is not covered by the threshold of originality. Especially how COM:TOO UK says "The level of originality required for copyright protection in the United Kingdom is very low" and points out that even icons like this cannot be hosted on Commons. ItsPugle (talk) 07:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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