Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Mother Armenia Monument
Files in Category:Mother Armenia Monument showing the pedestal of the monument
[edit]No freedom of panorama in Armenia, so photographs of copyrighted works are not permitted. Armenia's copyright term was extended from 50 years pma to 70 years pma in 2006. The sculpture is by Sergey Merkurov, who died in 1952, so it entered public domain in 2003 under the 50-year term; the pedestal is by Rafael Israelyan, who died in 1973, so it remains copyrighted until 2044.
- File:Koryun street Yerevan.jpg
- File:Mayr Hayastan statue Yerevan.jpg
- File:Mother Armeia 2007.jpg
- File:Մայր Հայաստան.JPG
cmadler (talk) 14:57, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- What's stopping us from cropping the majority of the pedestal and claiming de minimis on the rest? The first photo easily falls under that doctrine. Disclosure: I'm not directly affected by this deletion request, but I did upload the original resolution of one of these photos. Best, Blurpeace 23:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- I suppose that could be done...though it would be a while before I could get around to it myself. cmadler (talk) 13:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Comment: I've cropped the base out of the three photos listed. The first, File:Koryun street Yerevan.jpg, I believe would plainly fall under COM:DM. I welcome opinions on the edits I've made and where a change might not have been needed or could be improved. Best, Blurpeace 02:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Those look good to me...do the prior versions showing the pedestal need to be revdel'd? cmadler (talk) 13:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Note: Armenian copyright in the pedestal expires 1/1/2044 (70 years pma), but US copyright, via URAA restoration, expires 1/1/2046 (95 years from publication, counting from the 1950 unveiling). cmadler (talk) 13:50, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Those look good to me...do the prior versions showing the pedestal need to be revdel'd? cmadler (talk) 13:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Keep In the name of the human rights of information, education and enjoyment of the human creations. Also in the name of a meaningful encyclopedia.--MrPanyGoff 09:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Kept: I doubt the piedestal gets a copyright, and it is probably de minimis anyway. Yann (talk) 09:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Files in Category:Mother Armenia Monument
[edit]No freedom of panorama in Armenia. The statue is from 1950 (see en:Mother Armenia) and en:Sergey Merkurov died in 1952. Armenia has a copyright term of life+70 years, so the statue enters the public domain in Armenia on 1 January 2023. The statue was also copyrighted in Armenia on the URAA date (19 October 2000), so the statue is currently also copyrighted in the United States, where it enters the public domain on 1 January 2046. Some files were previously kept in Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Arantz, but that discussion seemed to deal only with the copyright of the photo, not with the copyright of the statue. Some files were kept in Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Mother Armenia Monument with the motivation that the pedestal is de minimis. While I agree that the pedestal is de minimis, the statue is still copyrighted. That DR claims that the statues entered the public domain in Armenia in 2003. While this appears to be true, COM:CRT#Armenia suggests that the copyright was restored in Armenia in 2006.
- File:Mayr Hayastan statue Yerevan.jpg
- File:Mayr Hayastan.JPG
- File:Mother Armeia 2007.jpg
- File:Մայր Հայաստան.JPG
Stefan4 (talk) 20:43, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Comment Until 2006 copyright term was 50 years , so it falls in the "free" period. I have no idea about 2000, you could explain that, but then again, that makes no sense, as the monument is free to shoot. Arantz (talk) 10:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Delete Per nom. It does seem to be the case that Armenia's 2006 copyright law restored copyright on works that had passed into the public domain, so it is copyrighted in Armenia until 1/1/2023. We did also completely neglect to consider US copyright status in the previous deletion discussion, but it does seem to be copyrighted in the US until 1/1/2046. cmadler (talk) 12:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)- Comment : en:Mother Armenia#Mother Armenia statue in Yerevan : "In spring 1962, the statue of Stalin was removed, with one soldier being killed and many injured during the process, and replaced by the Mother Armenia statue, designed by Ara Harutyunyan." : Ara Harutyunyan was born on 28 March 1928 but we don't know if he is dead. So, I'm not sure about "the statue enters the public domain on 1 January 2046". Bloody-libu (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom & Commons:Freedom of panorama#Armenia. Images in Category:Statues in Armenia have to be checked. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 23:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
deleted . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 23:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)