Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Monuments and memorials in Romania

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Files in Category:Monuments and memorials in Romania

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Per COM:FOP#Romania: non-free monuments/architecture.

Eleassar (t/p) 09:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments in parentheses Taivo (talk) 19:45, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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 Keep This should not be done in bulk. Instead the dates and authors have to be determined on a case by case basis. Not two monuments are alike.

I carefully reviewed them before I nominated them. Feel welcome to review them yourself and comment on them. --Eleassar (t/p) 12:40, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep The following files:

Analysis to be continued.--Strainu (talk) 12:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The text is as much copyrightable as anything else. Where is your evidence that these people died more than 70 years ago?
 I withdraw my nomination for File:Bustul_Domnitorului_Ioan_Cuza_Grivita,Vaslui.jpg. --Eleassar (t/p) 13:08, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the text itself. One is by Nicolae Iorga, the other seems to be by Petru Pavel Aron. Can you handle finding out when they died or should we do this for you too? I'm trying very hard to keep to WP:AGF, but your repeated claims of thorough investigation of these images are obviously fake.--Strainu (talk) 17:57, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info;  I withdraw my nomination for the two too. I actually don't care what you assume. --Eleassar (t/p) 18:12, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep The following files:

Jury's still out for:

Any information on those would be appreciated.--Strainu (talk) 14:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Concerning File:Sighet.jpg, this photography showed a building and a commemorative tombstone. FOP about it? It isn't an artwork ! --Spiridon Ion Cepleanu (talk) 14:31, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Great work, Strainu! I added the identified sculptor information to the corresponding images. Judging from how many images here fail the deletion request criteria, I have strong doubts about the "careful review" of Eleassar at this point. As I suggested before, and now I view this more strongly, each monument should be treated individually, not as a bulk delete. I agree that some of these crosses can hardly qualify as monuments and art. --Codrin.B (talk) 14:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep for File:MonumentRacoviţa.jpg: Built in 1938. If the author is not mentioned on it, it is fair to assume that the work is anonymous, therefore according to Romanian law, the copyright belongs to the person communicating the work to the public (mayor's office or some kind of government body). In that case copyright is 70 years from publishing (or in this case, unveiling).--Strainu (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1938 means that it is highly likely the author was still living in 1946. If the author is not mentioned, it is an en:orphan work. Per COM:Anonymous, we need a reliable source to state that a work is anonymous to be kept, and monuments are almost never anonymous. --Eleassar (t/p) 17:23, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the information. I've withdrawn the request (striken them out) for those four that are in the public domain. PD-simple can't apply for monument: they're not so simple after all, and there is no evidence of any threshold of originality in Romania. Also, the nationality of the sculptor has no role in the copyright status: for all people in Romania, the same laws apply. --Eleassar (t/p) 17:23, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks,  I withdraw my nomination for this file. --Eleassar (t/p) 10:39, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]


 Deleted, but some kept. Taivo (talk) 19:45, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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