Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Information boards in Hungary

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Files in Category:Information boards in Hungary

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Deletion requests/Files in Category:Information boards in Hungary

Maps, photos and text are not covered by FoP in Hungary. These are not works of fine art or applied art under Hungarian copyright law. Regasterios (talk) 16:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand why are you nominated these files! The outdoor, permanently Hungarian Information boards discussed multiple time. Example here and here - -Globetrotter19 (talk) 16:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:'Anno Szilvásvárad' Reformed school, lesson, 2016 Hungary.jpg, File:'Anno Szilvásvárad' Reformed school, 2016 Hungary.jpg, File:'Anno Szilvásvárad' Reformed school, local firefighter association, 2016 Hungary.jpg, File:'Anno Szilvásvárad', carriage race in the 1980s, 2016 Hungary.jpg, File:Bálványos regős prés (1902) Gyenesdiás, 2016 Hungary.jpg and File:Bőr futrinka (Carabus coriaceus) a pihenőerdőben, Hévíz, 2016 Hungary.jpg are not information boards and should probably be discussed in a separate request. Other than that, yeah, these do not seem to be covered by freedom of panorama in Hungary (which only extends to fine art, applied art and architecture). --Tgr (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bőr futrinka (Carabus coriaceus) a pihenőerdőben, Hévíz, 2016 Hungary.jpg is not own work. This photo is also from an information board. I dont't understand why this file is other case. --Regasterios (talk) 17:37, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

However, I feel these images informative and very useful for the Wikimedia projects and I do not think that anybody would ever claim their usage, strictly legally I cannot defend them. Samat (talk) 08:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Question Is there a way that we can save these images in a batch in case they would be deleted? Samat (talk) 08:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question Per COM:FOP Hungary, if a fine art, architectural or applied art creation is erected with a permanent character outdoors in a public place, a view of it may be made and used without the authorization of the author and paying remuneration to him. If as Regasterios says, photos do not count as applied art, I think the FOP page should be updated to clarify. The ones which are primarily text I can certainly see should be  deleted. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Hungarian Copyright Act lists the protected types of works:

  • a) literary works (e.g. fictional, academic, scientific and journalistic works),
  • b) public speeches,
  • c) computer program creations and their documentation (hereinafter “software”) recorded as source code, object codes or in any other form, including application programs and operating systems,
  • d) plays, musical plays, choreographic works and pantomimes,
  • e) musical compositions with or without lyrics,
  • f) radio and television plays,
  • g) cinematographic creations and other audio-visual works (hereinafter jointly “cinematographic creations”),
  • h) creations produced by drawing, painting, sculpting, engraving, lithography or by any other similar means as well as their designs,
  • i) photographic works,
  • j) maps and other cartographic creations,
  • k) architectural works and their designs, as well as the designs for complexes of buildings and urban architecture,
  • l) designs for technical structures,
  • m) applied art works and their designs,
  • n) costumes, scenery and their designs,
  • o) works of industrial design,
  • p) databases qualifying as collections of works.

Roughly, section h summarizes works of fine art, section k summarizes architectural works, and sections m and o summarize works of applied art. Photographic works form a separate section, on the basis of which they are probably not covered by freedom of panorama. @Tgr and Samat: what do you think? Does panoramic freedom apply to these sections? --Regasterios (talk) 11:59, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Random break

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The current text of the law is here. The relevant clause in Hungarian is:

A szabad felhasználás esetei

68. § (1) A szabadban, nyilvános helyen, állandó jelleggel felállított képzőművészeti, építészeti és iparművészeti alkotás látképe a szerző hozzájárulása és díjazás nélkül elkészíthető és felhasználható.

Google translate renders this as:

Cases of free use

§ 68. (1) A view of a work of fine art, architecture and applied art erected outdoors, in a public place, on a permanent basis may be made and used without the consent and remuneration of the author.

The question is whether a public information board, which may incorporate photographs, maps, text etc., is considered w:en:applied art. I think that would be stretching the normal definition of applied art. There is an exemption from copyright for "official communications and documents", but that applies to laws, directives, standards etc. Again, it would be a stretch to say it covered information boards. So I would say that these are protected and the images should be deleted. This is unfortunate, because I doubt that the authorities who put the boards up would object to their being copied. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the photographs may be out of copyright based on age, though. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:17, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --1989 (talk) 20:41, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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