Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:FotoPresidencia Flickr stream to check

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Files in Category:FotoPresidencia Flickr stream to check

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I am not sure about the images in this Flickr stream. On one hand, it appears to be an official account; on the other hand, there are clear indications of licensing laundering. I will try to explain point by point.

Firstly, in this album, there are photographs taken by Ricardo Stuckert, originally published on the official Flickr account of the Brazilian government under CC BY license. However, in the Flickr stream in question, they are made available as public domain [sic], which appears to be a clear violation of copyright.

Secondly, I am not certain about the photographers of the images I have uploaded and I am nominating for deletion. Regarding Leo Queen, they appear to be an official photographer, but I am unsure if I can say the same about Juan Cano, who, when I search on Google, seems to be associated with something called “AP” (Juan Cano/Colombian Presidential Press Office via AP). If it refers to the Associated Press, then, from what I see, their content is not free to be uploaded to Commons, let alone considered to be in the public domain, whatever that means.

In summary, I am uncertain if this is indeed an official account and whether the images posted by it are actually authored by the account. I am afraid I may not be able to competently evaluate this matter, so I would like more experienced users to analyze this matter, if possible.

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RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is an excellent question. If it is the Colombian presidential press office, they might hold the rights to the images and would therefore be able to release them into the public domain. In fact, "Colombian Presidential Press Office via AP" does suggest that the Colombian Presidential Press Office may be the copyright holder, and AP just provided this particular image to your immediate source as a service provider. However, the Flickr info page is very thin, making it hard to tell how genuine the account is. Safest would probably be to send an email to contacto@presidencia.gov.co and ask them to confirm that they are indeed operating that Flickr channel. Felix QW (talk) 10:55, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I have just sent them an email. RodRabelo7 (talk) 06:24, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment @Felix QW I haven’t yet received any response, but I have found this: this site links FotoPresidencia Flickr stream, so yes, it is most likely an official account. I just don’t know how to deal with licensing laundering cases, like the one involving photographs by Ricardo Stuckert. RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Response from contacto@presidencia.gov.co:
(Just sent it to VRT (Ticket#: 2023071810004291). Can be checked here, nevertheless.)

En atención a su comunicación, radicada en esta Entidad con el código del asunto mediante la cual solicita se informe "(...) si la cuenta FotoPresidencia en Flickr es una cuenta oficial del gobierno colombiano y si las fotos publicadas allí están realmente en dominio público"; me permito informar que la cuenta FotoPresidencia en la plataforma Flickr sí pertenece a la Presidencia de la República y el material fotográfico que se encuentra allí publicado es de dominio público de acuerdo con los términos otorgados por la licencia Creative Commons, los cuales se describen en cada una de las fotografías.
Adicionalmente, y de acuerdo con lo señalado en el capítulo III de la Ley 23 de 1982 "Limitaciones y excepciones al derecho de autor", está permitido el uso de dicho material teniendo en cuenta que se trata de fotografías del Presidente de la República y de altos funcionarios del Gobierno Nacional relacionadas con actividades públicas y/o desarrolladas en el marco de acontencimientos públicos.
Artículo 33. Pueden ser reconocidas cualquier título, fotografía, ilustración y comentario relativo a acontecimiento de actualidad, publicados por la prensa o difundidos por la radio o la televisión, si ello, no hubiere sido expresamente prohibido.
Artículo 34. Será lícita la reproducción, distribución y comunicación al público de noticias u otras informaciones relativas a hechos o sucesos que hayan sido públicamente difundidos por la prensa o por la radiodifusión.
Artículo 36. La publicación del retrato es libre cuando se relaciona con fines científicos, didácticos o culturales en general o con hechos o acontecimientos de interés público o que se hubieren desarrollado en público.
Cordialmente,
MARIA ELENA ROMERO ROCHA
SECRETARÍA PARA LAS COMUNICACIONES Y PRENSA
RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • ticket:2023071810004291 —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 10:18, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep per the above. Cano lists himself on Twitter as "Fotógrafo Presidencia de la República Colombia ", so the Presidency's press office should have full authority to release the images. (The "via AP" that pops up in some searches is because the Associated Press is distributing the photo; it's not an indication of AP ownership.) Stuckert appears to be an official photographer for the Brazilian president and his images in the FotoPresidencia stream were likely provided to Colombia as part of the summit. PD may not be the right license, but this would be a case where fixing the license makes more sense than deletion since it was released through official channels. —Tcr25 (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
     Keep, per @Tcr25 -- Ooligan (talk) 14:53, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: no valid reason for deletion. —holly {chat} 17:20, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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