Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:2005 stamps of the United States

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Files in Category:2005 stamps of the United States

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per COM:United States#Stamps, U.S. stamps issued after January 1, 1978 are protected by copyright.

Eureka Lott 08:46, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep or at least move each one to English Wikipedia so they can be listed as fair use. This is ridiculous, removing so many good images without first and foremost copying them to their major Wikipedia. Isn't there a rule about this here at Commons, to first place the nominated images in their major Wikipedias? Randy Kryn (talk) 09:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Commons has a process for moving fair use candidates to Wikipedia, but the way they're currently used, these images wouldn't qualify. Please note that these are the only post-1977 images in use at List of artworks on stamps of the United States. - Eureka Lott 12:36, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The US Postal Service doesn't own the copyright of the artwork used in these stamps. The stamps feature original art by various artists. Some of the original artwork is old enough that copyright limitations don't even apply. The stamps are designed to expand public awareness of historically important African American artists. These are low resolution representations being used for public education. The stamps are out in public spaces where images of them can be taken all the time. These are post-1977 stamps featuring mostly pre-1977 artwork. I wish I knew how to place images into the wikipedia, but I don't. All the documentation I've ever read about it says to post images here. Netmouse (talk) 13:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, let's examine the copyright status of the artworks, too. According to the publicity kit for this series of stamps, they're based on pieces of art created between 1941 and 1997. The artists who made those works died between 1970 and 2020. None of the art is in the public domain. - Eureka Lott 18:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Per the other keep voters. There's actually already deletion requests open for a few of these that I started myself a few months ago. Although after some reflection and having discussion on the copyright noticeboard about a similar topic I'm now convinced that these stamps are in the public domain. Why? Because they are reproductions of pre-1978 works that at least as far as I know don't have copyrighted notices on them and/or didn't have their copyright renewed. Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States works published between 1964 and 1977 without notice are public domain. Whereas, works published between 1928 and 1963 without notice, or with notice but not renewed within 28 years of first publication are. So why did I nominate the images for deletion then? Because for some reason I was originally under the false impression that the date of the artist's deaths mattered. When in fact it apparently doesn't. At least not for pre-1978 works that don't have a copyright notice and where their copyright hasn't been registered within 5 years of first publication. I at least have the excuse that copyright law in the United States is super convoluted. I'm glad it could be clarified by people who clearly know more about the topic then I do though. In that vain, I suggest the nominator read the discussion about a similar case on the copyright board, which can be found here. Outside of that, in order for these images to be deleted the nominator would have to check the database to see if the artwork in the stamps was copyrighted at the time and if it was renewed or not. There isn't really any grounds for the images to be deleted otherwise though. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:44, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Slight addendum to that, what I said obviously only applies to the stamps that feature pre-1978 artwork, which seems to be the majority of the files. For the ones that were created post 1978, they can probably be deleted. I just don't have time to figure out which specific ones they are. If any of them even are created post 78. Whatever the case the nominator should probably nominate them individually anyway since the delete rational/discussion will be different depending on who the artist was, when they died, Etc. Etc. So I'm going to say all of them should be kept, but with the caveat that stamps of post 1978 artwork can/should be re-nominated separately. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:58, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per Adamant, anyone can re-nominate individual files if the art depicted is copyrighted. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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