Commons:Deletion requests/Files from "PD UA Military"

Add {{delete|reason=Fill in reason for deletion here!|subpage=Files from "PD UA Military"|year=2024|month=December|day=19}} to the description page of each file.
Notify the uploader(s) with {{subst:idw||Files from "PD UA Military"|plural}} ~~~~
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Files from "PD UA Military"

A lot of media uploaded with ((PD-UAexMilitary)) despite that tag. But this license is only"for works of a Ukrainian military or Ministry of Defense if it is symbol or sign of government authorities, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations". The using of this license is absolutely incorrect for such type of files. A lot of this media was taken from Telegram, YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, Google and other sources. DR is created after discussion here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright/Archive/2023/06#Ukrainian_Military_photos --Kursant504 (talk) 12:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The deletion requester is a prolific uploader of Russian MoD, Kremlin and other Putinist propaganda related of the 580 days of the so called 3 day "SMO" (i.e. the open invasion and war of agression by an dictorial regime against a democratic country), fact that the deletion requester continues to not disclose. That behaviour can possibly explain the below behaviour of zero notifications in any place by user Kursant504

The {{Commons:Deletion requests/Mass deletion request/header}} above this deletion request is pretty clear, when it says:

"Add {{delete|reason=Fill in reason for deletion here!|subpage=Files from "PD UA Military"|year=2023|month=September|day=27}} to the description page of each file.". Deletion requester added 0 (zero) to 0 (zero) description page of each file. Notify the uploader(s) with {{subst:idw||Files from "PD UA Military"|plural}} ~~~~. Deletion requester again added 0 (zero) notifications to 0 (zero) talkpages of the uploaders of each file.

So notification to uploaders or on the filedescription pages

Add {{Commons:Deletion requests/Files from "PD UA Military"}} at the end of today's log. correctly added this DR to Commons:Deletion_requests/2023/09/27. Tm (talk) 21:20, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well despite this and potential bias, the requester does have a point. A lot of these are either unofficial footage of the Ukrainian military from social media and footage or rebels in Belgorod. Neither of which are under this license. However, I do see some files here that are under this license and from the Ukrainian MOD.

I'd say the majority of these files are under the wrong license and not free. Some are free and because of the possible bias of this poster, they were listed here. I think this needs further examination of every file here to truly determine its status. DinoSoupCanada (talk) 02:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I looked through the description of each file and only some referred to the source - the accounts of the MoD of Ukraine in social networks. However, as far as I know, there is no free license for MoD's materials in social networks. Only on materials posted on the official website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and some other military departments of Ukraine. So, I do not see yet that there is a valid license for these files exist. Kursant504 (talk) 05:58, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user was a just strong bias in favour of the putinist war of agression against Ukraine, as there are several unquestionable facts about him, some it never disclosed here on Commons, because it wants to hide his real intentions in opening this deletion requests.

1 - Per his own Russian Wikipedia, this userpage lives in Saint Petersburg (being a russian or russian speaker is not a problem by itself), biut can explain part of his big and notorious bias of this user is shown on his own uploads of putinist propagand from the russian MOD or the numerous deletion request opened with questionable or patently false reasons.

2 - This can and should a be a question and problem with, given that this user also has (the appalling fact that it does not believe in the intentional and sistematic russian war crimes, despite all the evidences (per is own words " И лично мне не требуется оправдывать преступления России, так как я в них банально не верю (ну в среднем, не считая например каких-то чисто боевых моментов, которые адекватно поймёт любой военный).))) И читая все те помои, которые тут за АИ выдаются в этом убеждении можно только укрепиться, но не наоборот.".

3 - But the real problem is that this user, per is own words or the Russian Wikipedia in June 2022 is paid for his edits on topics related with what it calls the russian "Special Military Operation", albeit without disclosing who or what organization paid him for those edits.

4 - And, when inquired in the Russian Wikipedia, in the same month of June 2022, about who was the person or organization that paid him it continued to refused to disclose those who paid him at that time (as far i can understand by claiming it did not knew the name of the person\organization because it wanted to remain anonymous). So how much is believable that someone pays this user and this user does not know who is paying him (is own words on his Russian Wikipedia talkpage "ФИО заказчика мне неизвестно, т.к. он пожелал остаться таковым."?????????

5 - But, "miraculously", on December 2022 it claimed that this paying person\organization was a Elena Rodzyanko. It clearly was a "miracle"!

6 - Yet, by March 2023, this user still refused to disclose what specific edits were payed

7 - This same facts came under scrutiny on his talkpage of English Wikipedia in en:User_talk:Kursant504#March_2023 and en:User_talk:Kursant504#July_2023

7 - For this several facts it was blocked indefitibly on the Russian Wikipedia.

8 - So you have a user that is paid to make edits related with the putinist war of agression against ukraine, paid by a before (still?) undisclosed customer (per this user own admission). And what edits related with this war of agression it makes? It uploads putinist propaganda from the russian MOD, opened deletion requests with bogus motives of images that exposed putinists war crimes in the bombing of Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theater (a clearly marked civilian object) or the Bucha massacre, etc. Are this facts believable to just be an coincidence? This is a clear example of a duck test of what this user really wants and is payed for. To spread putinist propaganda and pro-war putinist propaganda in this war of agression, per findings of the Russian Wikipedia.

9 - Just to give an example of what hybrid warfare means, it is also a know fact en:Russian web brigades were closely tied to the former en:Internet_Research_Agency, a Saint Petersburg and Wagner Group affiliated. The fact is that in this war "a former factory in St Petersburg as a new base for trolling operations where “cyber soldiers are ruthlessly targeting politicians and audiences across a number of countries including the UK, South Africa and India. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office cited government-funded research, which it has not published, that reportedly shows paid staff in Russia are “using Telegram to actively recruit and coordinate new supporters who then target the social media profiles of Kremlin critics – spamming them with pro-Putin and pro-war comments.” Tm (talk) 02:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If I may leave a comment, it seems to me that some of the pictures have just plain wrong names and discriptions. For example in picture https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_soldiers_frozen_to_death_in_fields_near_Chuhuiv,_Ukraine_(March_2022)_02.jpg you can see Bloody bandages on the legs of the soldiers and the legs themselves on the soldier on the right are twisted in an unntural manner. I feel like the description is a lie. F.Alexsandr (talk) 14:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I deleted four of the photographs listed in the DR that were also part of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Russian soldiers frozen to death in fields near Chuhuiv, Ukraine (March 2022) 01.jpg. The Twitter of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense is not covered by a free license. We'd need someone from the MoD to contact COM:VRT if they intended for social media to be covered by the license on their website.

Delete per COM:PCP Abzeronow (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: The language on {{PD-UAexMilitary}} is clear: it applies only to signs and symbols, not photographic or audiovisual works. —holly {chat} 18:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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