Commons:Deletion requests/File:Poster of the movie The Barn Dance.jpg

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File:Poster of the movie The Barn Dance.jpg

This file was initially tagged by Hjajajsbbxb12 as Fair use (Non-free) and the most recent rationale was: poster

Converting to DR for discussion and easier undeletion. 1929 work. Abzeronow (talk) 19:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, The Barn Dance won't be in the Public Domain until January 1, 2025, because it's copyright was renewed 28 years after it's publication. Hjajajsbbxb12 (talk) 19:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Generally for works whose copyright would expire within the next few years, a deletion request would be better than a speedy deletion request since DRs can be categorized as "Undelete in..." categories. Abzeronow (talk) 19:53, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep Before moving it to Commons I was dilligent enough to ask at the English Wikipedia whether this was a PD work. The result was that this poster was not different to that of the Gallopin Gaucho, had no new copyrightable elements, and so it is too in the public domain. In fact, only the title changes. You can see such discussion on the English Wikipedia. Bedivere (talk) 19:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Obviously, the film remains in copyright until 2025 but this does not apply to this poster. Bedivere (talk) 19:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

This also applies to the poster, because it was also created in 1929. Hjajajsbbxb12 (talk) 21:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

The poster required its own separate copyright in 1929. If you can provide a renewal for the poster then we can delete. While it’s true that cartoons are more strict on derivative work rules in illustrations, the illustrations presented here are not unique enough from similar posters that are definitively in the public domain like Gallopin Gaucho. Nor is the poster specific enough to feature elements directly related to this short. SDudley (talk) 21:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Even if it had its copyright registered, it would be in the public domain as you correctly state the Gallopin Gaucho poster, nearly identical, is already PD. This does not apply to the film, which as we have all said is not PD until next year. Bedivere (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

 Keep peer Bedivere AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

 Keep The Barn Dance poster is essentially the same as the one for Gallopin Gaucho File:The Gallopin' Gaucho poster.jpg. Abzeronow (talk) 23:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

 Keep The deletion request hinges on the film being in copyright and not the poster. Plus the similaritiy to the Gallopin Gaucho poster leads me to believe this needs to be kept. --SDudley (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

The film won't be public domain until January 1, 2025, because the copyright was renewed on December 10, 1956}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hjajajsbbxb12 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

 Keep The image can still be used if the cartoon is not yet in the public domain. However, we should revert it to the previous smaller size, to use it as a non-free image. Toughpigs (talk)

That won't be necessary since the poster would have a different copyright than the film, and we don't allow non-free images on Commons. Abzeronow (talk) 20:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

 Comment I was about to post the same thing. Keep since the image doesn't seem to be in copyright.--SDudley (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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Kept: Clear consensus to keep. --Bedivere (talk) 05:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)