Commons:Deletion requests/File:Nosferatu (1922).webm
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
While the 1922 film Nosferatu may be in the public domain, this file comes from a 2006 Blu-Ray restoration that contains new, copyrightable elements. 64.203.142.238 18:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Weak delete And what would these "new, copyrightable elements" be, exactly? As far as I know, the restoration was done with the intention to recreate the original as it was shown in 1922 as closely as possible, so "new, copyrightable elements" would be totally contrary to the goal of the restoration. So, for lack of new elements that pass the threshold of originality, I don't think we can delete the file based on this argument (as the newly recorded soundtrack, wich certainly *is* copyrighted, is not included), but there may be another reason: In Germany, there is a related right, the so-called "Schutz wissenschaftlicher Ausgaben", or protection of scholarly editions, with a duration of 25 years. If this 2006 restoration counts as a "scholarly edition" of the film, it would still be protected until 2031. But I can't imagine any additional protection, so, if we're cautious and delete the file as a possible "scholarly edition", I think it could be listed for undeletion in 2032, not too far in the future. This based on the fact that the film as such is now in the public domain in its country of origin, Germany, too (since 2020), as all participating creators of relevance for the term of protection according to German law have now died more than 70 years ago (see this 2023 discussion in German-language Wikipedia). In the US, it has entered the public domain a long time ago, anyway. Gestumblindi (talk) 19:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Seconding @Gestumblindi: Do we have a reason to believe that this version does indeed contain any new, copyrightable elements? And, if that is not the case, does the restoration of a film, and more specificially this kind of restoration, fall under the 25-year protection for "scholarly editions" (sec. 70 of the German Copyright Act)? Gnom (talk) 10:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Adding some further context: The film was originally shown not in pure black and white, but tinted in several colors, and such a tinted copy was the base for this restoration (as per the file description). Gestumblindi (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- If this restoration is found to be below TOO but still copyrighted in Germany, I would request for it to be uploaded locally to en.wikipedia or en.wikisource before it is deleted. prospectprospekt (talk) 14:57, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. We have had a discussion on VPC saying that a film restoration doesn't create a new copyright. --Yann (talk) 15:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)