Commons:Deletion requests/File:2020aug-derecho-ottawa-illinois-tornado.jpg
This file was initially tagged by A1Cafel as Speedy (SD) and the most recent rationale was: F6|2=courtesy of Jason Ward, not works from NWS A1Cafel (talk) 16:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep according to NWS photo submission information "By submitting images, you understand that your image is being released into the public domain. This means that your photo or video may be downloaded, copied, and used by others." Hence the photos are in the public domain and can be used on Commons ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 16:57, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep For the reasons stated above. It is even stated in the {{PD-NWS}} template that third-party photographs submitted to the NWS "have explicitly been released to the public domain by the copyright owner as part of the upload process." TornadoLGS (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per above. SHB2000 (talk) 09:31, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Kept: per NWS provisions. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
This photo was taken in the United States in 2020 by Jason Ward, a firefighter in Ottowa, Illinois.
There is no claim that he was a US Federal government employee performing his duties, or that this image is ineligible for copyright for any other reason.
As an image made in the United States after 1989, copyright came into being as soon as the image was made.
Prior to the NWS's publication of this photo, a version of it (without the embedded caption that appears on weather.gov) was published by Shaw Media explaining how and where the photo was taken, and its significance.[1]
Not that it's been required since 1989, but Shaw Media's footer includes an explicit copyright notice: "Copyright © 2024 Shaw Local News Network"
The site's copyright policy says "This website (the “Service”) contains material that is protected by international copyright, trademark and other intellectual property laws. Unless otherwise specified, the Service is intended for your personal, noncommercial use only. You may not modify, copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit or distribute in any way any material, including code and software, from the Service."[2]
This image was uploaded to Commons under rationales expressed in the {{PD-NWS}} template at the time; that
- when the weather.gov general disclaimer says that material not in the public domain will be specifically noted, it means that it must be published with a formal copyright notice. Whereas in reality, not only has the NWS never promised any specific form of notation, there is ample evidence to demonstrate this is not their general practice. This belief also chooses to ignore the words elsewhere in the disclaimer that state that third party images are used by the NWS under license, and to contact the third-party creators for re-use.
- the words of a NWS Sioux City regional office policy that placed some public submissions in the public domain somehow applied to this image, although there is nothing to connect it with that office.
Without clearer evidence that the creator intended to place this image in the public domain, we need to delete this under COM:PRP. Rlandmann (talk) 07:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete per above. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 20:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy pings to all editors involved in the previous discussion: @A1Cafel @Gwennie-nyan @TornadoLGS @King of Hearts @SHB2000 Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 20:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Comment: I believe this is the author's Facebook profile. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
 | Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request. |
Deleted: per discussion and the linked RfC. --Krd 15:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
