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Deleted, all the uploader's contributions have been copyright violations. I blocked her for a week and I mass delete them all. Taivo (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted, all the uploader's contributions have been copyright violations. I blocked her for a week and I mass delete them all. Taivo (talk) 10:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted, all the uploader's contributions have been copyright violations. I blocked her for a week and I mass delete them all. Taivo (talk) 10:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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uncorrect license; the original file is a cc-by-nc
Italiano: Le immagini presenti in questo sito possono essere liberamente copiate, utilizzate e distribuite, purchè non a fini di lucro e purchè, in caso di utilizzo, se ne citino l’autore e la fonte.
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This file was initially tagged by DieSwartzPunkt as Copyvio (db-copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: There is no free licence associated with this image as required by common hosting for images. There is a wholly inappropriate software licence, even though there is no software associated with the image. This may be a blatant attempt to host images while retaining copyright control.Yann (talk) 12:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
" A SITOR-B (SImplex Teletype Over Radio type B) idling pattern, part of the NAVTEX (Navigational Telex) system which issues navigational and meteorological warnings and forecasts, as well as urgent marine safety information to ships. This recording shows the characteristic synchronization bursts which are transmitted every second or so and last for slightly more than one second. Every few bursts, a Morse identifier of three letters - in this case, NMC, identifying this as coming from the United States Coast Guard station at Point Reyes." - En-Wiki description. I think that sounds sufficient, what do you think? If it is, I'll fill that in. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Motopark (talk) 08:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
SINCERAMENTE ME SIENTO, ATORMENTADO POR ESTAS COSAS. NO VOY A DAR A CONOCER MI VIDA EN UN WIKIPEDIA LO SIENTO SI REALMENTE QUIEREN SABER ESAS PERSONAS SOLO TENDRÁN QUE LIMITARSE ENTONCES A NO LEER MÁS NI MIS POSTS NI NADA MENOS. YA QUE EN NUESTRO PAÍS TENEMOS LEYES ANTIBULLYING Y ANTIACOSO FAMILIAR O VIOLENCIAS DE GÉNERO. YA SEAN MASCULINOS O FEMEMINOS. VIOLANDO LA LEY 26.844 DE CASAS DE FAMILIA DE NUESTRO PAÍS. SINCERAMENTE PRONTO USARÉ ESTO COMO EVIDENCIA A MI ABOGADA CONCEJAL DE LA CIUDAD DE CAMPANA. PROVINCIA DE BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA. PRONTO TENDRÁN NOTICIAS DE MIS ASESORES LEGALES Y NO SE ASOMBREN SI LEVANTAN WIKIPÉDIA PARA ARGENTINA. COMO NO ÚTIL.[reply]
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modern statue in San Francisco. No Freedom of Panorama in the U.S. Also "Royalty Free License" has additional restrictions -- "the maximum amount of physical copies in any form is limited to 10,000 copies. If you exceed this amount and you already purchased credits you may request to download the Media under the regular RF license" which are not compatible with Wikimedia Commons. Warfieldian(talk)01:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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One logo and two views from some sort of software program, all seems rather promotional or self-promotional and outside of COM:SCOPE if not COM:COPYVIOs for the logo and the DW logos at the top of the third item.
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Two group shots of sports players, one from 1969 and one from 1989 both claimed own work, but obvious scans of prints. No indication uploader is photographer, other uploads included a map ripped from online application and a newspaper clipping.
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A series of unused images of non-notable male, two of which are overprinted and may contain DW of other images... none are apparently selfies, metadata is lacking. Commons is not a social media site, nor for promotion or self-promotion, nominating these for COM:COPYVIO and out of COM:SCOPE.
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Unlikely to be own work or freely CC-licensed: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing/inconsistent EXIF, per COM:PRP, considering User talk:Nguyenbadong/user logs.
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Delete You are correct. It reads "(c) Marcel van Manen Fotografie", so this image is not "own work" as claimed. The following images are very similar, probably taken by the same photographer at the same time:
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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing/inconsistent EXIF, per COM:PRP, considering serial copyright violator User talk:Danieldd-almeida. Historical photos/drawings may be in public domain but relevant info must be provided.
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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing/inconsistent EXIF, per COM:PRP, considering serial copyright violator User talk:Wesleysky. Historical photos may be in public domain but relevant info must be provided.
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This file was initially tagged by Rzafar as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: Not educationally useful Converted by me to DR, as a regular DR is more appropriate in such cases. However, I agree with the nominator. -- Túrelio (talk) 10:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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This file was initially tagged by Rzafar as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: Not educationally useful Converted by me to DR, as a regular DR is more appropriate in such cases. However, I agree with the nominator. -- Túrelio (talk) 10:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The Guillemins train station, build by Calatrava is under copyright, and the top of the opera, recently build too... M0tty (talk) 14:30, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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К сожалению, для использования ваших файлов нужно разрешение, отправленное через OTRS. Watermarked as belonging to a website; OTRS needed. Ymblanter (talk) 15:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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The text on these museum notices is likely too long to be free from copyright. The photographs from the museum don't look like they're old enough to be in the public domain.
This is getting annoying now. If you read the actual article these photos relate to, you will know it is a government building. Government documents are not copyright-able, as I have learned from you deleting my other photos.
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A PDF file with plenty of images. One of the images on page 3 is also available here (image 5 in the gallery) and is missing evidence of permission. This could mean that there also are problems with the other images. It is impractical to upload images in this form anyway. Stefan4 (talk) 21:32, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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These pictures are my own work even if they are of low resolution — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackLantern (talk • contribs) 2014-10-10T11:19:53 (UTC)
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Dear 1Veertje, Thanks for your nomination. I will contact Naturalis to ask if they are willing and able to release the advertisement under CC. Vysotsky (talk) 08:21, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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A series of heraldic shields all credited to own work, as the sources of the actual images need to be provided, this is a COM:COPYVIO even if the user redrew crests from other sources and claims own work.
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``As author and uploader of A_RCAF_WWII_patch_for_the_Photography_Section_circa_1939.jpg, I made a mistake on this image. The back-stamp does not go with the front. I will resubmit the correct image when this one is removed.
Alternately, someone could just crop off the label at the bottom of the image. It doesn't belong to this patch.
Sorry and Thanks, Wayne A much better place (talk) 13:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Small size, low resolution and a possible DW of northern lights photo adorn this copy of "the Long Dark" logo under claim of own work, however more likely to be COM:COPYVIO from the background image. Ellin Beltz (talk) 04:04, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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No, it isn't, but it looks quite different. However, I'm having doubts this image (and other Tibet uploads by Wildcursive) is inside our project's scope. FDMS 4 12:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Third nomination! You already nominated the file twice with the same reason, but the file is currently in use, and the license is irrevocable. --Amitie 10g (talk) 14:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Reliable sources have been provided and then the description of the light blue colour should be changed into where it is not majority because the word minority implies it is hardly spoken. Finally, keep.--Franxo (talk) 10:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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This file is inaccurate. Norwegian is the official language and also the majority language in the whole mainland, except for Kautokeino municipality. Even there the majority of the population speaks Norwegian, even if 90% is said to have Northern Sami as native language. At Svalbard there are two communities with other majority languages, but I'm not sure if both of them should count in this respect. In Barentsburg the population is Russians and Ukrainians, while in Hornsund there is a Polish research station. In Sweden the official and majority language is Swedish, but note that the Nordic languages are very closely related. In all I think there are to many errors here and the map should be deleted unless it can be promptly fixed. It is removed from the article about Norwegian language at nowiki. [5]Jeblad (talk) 11:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to illustrate the distribution of. All of Norway speaks Norwegian. All of Sweden speaks Swedish. Sweden does not have Norwegian speaking areas or a Norwegian speaking minority as shown in this file. In both Sweden and Norway we do have our brethren from the other side of the border mostly working in the big cities. This said, Swedish and Norwegian are very closely related and we can understand each other (mostly though on occation we misunderstand each other). A Swede can live in Norway and speak Swedish in Norway and he/she will be understood (and vice versa). Both languages have a plethora of dialects. The areas in Sweden this file shows as partly Norwegian speaking areas are the areas Båhuslen, Jämtland and Härjedalen which was lost to Norway and became Swedish (1177/78-1645 and approx.1000-1658) with the consequenses this had for both the spoken and written language in the areas. Although nobody spoke modern Norwegian or Swedish at the time. They do not have a Norwegian speaking minority, the northernmost area does have a Swedish dialect that is closer to Norwegian than other Swedish dialects though.
In a few areas in Norway such as Kautokeino a considerable part of the population is bilingual and has a choice as to which language they consider their main language and prefer to learn in school (and if they chose Sami they also learn Norwegian). Some municipalities also have Sami as an option to chose in communication with Norwegian authorities. More than 50 years ago quite a few in these areas were not able to speak Norwegian and only spoke Sami or Finnish. This is no longer the situation. This file does not show which areas this was. The Norwegian government netsite: Samelovens språkregler og forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk has a map of the municipalities that has elected to use both Norwegian and Sami as official languages to communicate with their inhabitants (see section Forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk (dark grey areas has Sami and Norwegian both and equally as official languages)). Especially in these areas there is a large portion of the population who are bilingual. This file does not correspond to the Norwegian goverments map of municipalities having chosen Sami as official language along with Norwegian due to having a large part of the population being bilingual and preferring to use Sami.
This file clearly does not correspond with actual language usage in either Norway or Sweden. This file is inaccurate beyong redemption. My apologies for beeing a quite upset on behalf of my country and my country's languages and not politely understating my opinion of this file. I do understand that the file is the result good will and hard work, but unfortunately not a success and the file should not be used in any article on Wikipedia or elsewere. This is the case for some other files on Commons which is or will also be requested deleted. --ツツ Dyveldi☯17:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you think the image shouldn't be used, you can try to convince local communities not to use it, but this is not a reason to delete it while it's used.
By the way, you don't need to spend your time here giving reasons to say it's inaccurate or even plainly false. It just it isn't Common's matter.--Pere prlpz (talk) 11:15, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Answer, the description of the file does reflect reality/the real world. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to show. It is always possible to change the description, but do not know to what except to describe a warning not to use the file and I did not feel free to do that. As long as this description is kept the file will be included in articles in good faith. --ツツ Dyveldi☯15:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter in Commons. Commons is here to host files for other projects, not to editorialise them or tell them what images to use. If you think the file shouldn't be used in Wikipedias, go to the Wikipedias and ask them not to use it, but while it's in use in other projects, it can't be deleted from Commons per commons:scope. Later, you can ask for deletion in Commons since it won't be in use.--Pere prlpz (talk) 18:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And what happens when the author has added his image/map in some Wikipedia's articles? Is it enough to maintain it? Why can't any warning be posted to warn users about its accuracy? I understand that I just can make up a map like Aragonese spoken in Norway and nobody could delete it.--Franxo (talk) 19:08, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification Pere prlpz. Another question, who decides the description of the file? Or rather, is it ok to do anything about the description somewhere on the file page? As far as I understand it if files are deleted on Commons there is a procedure to remove links to the files on other projects (which is easier and less of a burden on the creator), if deletion is not possible another procedure should be followed as suggested. Posting comments on several other projects to prevent use or explain removal of file is also a heavy burden on the creator of the file. Which is a reason I would prefer deletion, easier on the creator. --ツツ Dyveldi☯20:16, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure about policies about placing conflicting warnings in file descriptions, although messages in file talk pages are OK. I suggest asking in village pump.
Anyway, the process should start finding or making a better map - maps in Commons are freely licensed, so you can edit a copy as you want. Then you can propose local communities to use the new map - a message in the talk page of articles using it and changing images if there is no answer in some days or a few weeks would probably be fine.--Pere prlpz (talk) 21:17, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again. This https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nordiska_språk.PNG is a better map, but as you can see it does not say much except that Norwegian is spoken in Norway, i.e. not a very interesting illustration. What is interesting about the language situation in Norway is the fact that we have three official written languages and that we have a plethora of dialects. For files depiction the official situation of the two written norwegian languages see: Category:Linguistic maps of the Norwegian language Adding the interesting files will however not be possible in language versions where I am not able to speak the language, the files needs explanatory texts which I am not able to produce (and given the quality of machine translations being close to Gobbledigook or Kauderwelsch it will end up as belonging to Jabberwocky).
This procedure will however move the problem from the creator of the problem (the mapmaker) to someone else who now has to do a lot of fixing on a whole lot of projects and it will produce a hole lot of edits announcing that the original creator of the file made a mistake (which decidedly is not fun for the creator). What if the original creator asked for deletion, what would happen then? --ツツ Dyveldi☯13:19, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose I am the creator of the file. If you have something better to say about this map, I invite you to modify it. Please, dont delete the work of other users. Moreover when there are not other maps like this about norwegian like single language map. If you give me the correct parameters I will modify it by myself, like I did once before when a norwegian user make me a petition of include the Svalbard Islands.--Fobos | ¿algo que decirme? 13:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC
Sorry again about being upset. Just drop the light blue colours and stay within the borders of Norway (Spitsbergen included, Sweden is not). Which means all of Norway and Spitsbergen in dark blue and Swedish areas in grey. To try to extinguish between habited and inhabited areas will be a different map (most of Spitsbergen is not habited and the official and majority language is Norwegian, quite large areas of Norway can also be considered as uninhabited (mountain areas), but this it not a necessary accuracy). Now this discussion takes place on several deletion pages, do we have a better discussion page to use (due to this deletion request I mistakenly proposed several pages for deletion for the same reasons), after all we are talking about something like 4-5 (or more?) files all having the same problems (accuracy and categories (and usage as a result of categories)). --ツツ Dyveldi☯13:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, but I have doubts yet.
1. what we do with the Sami areas in the north. Should not make clear what there are cities where Sami languages are spoken? Marking a Norwegian use as non native in these areas with a lighter color. Maybe the current usage its not correct, but the Sami languages exist in regions of northen Norway.
2. In Svalbard Islands I marked in light color the areas that are the main Russian base where the Russian language is the majority, does the map should not make it clear that?
3. In border areas in Sweden are people who have knowledge of Norwegian, they are not majority but I think those areas should also check if there are Swedish people with knowledge of Norwegian.
2. As far as I know Barentsburg is the only place where Russian is the spoken language on Spitsbergen. This is a mining community where people come and stay for 3 years. The situation of the Svalbard Islands is internationally unique with it's right for f.ex. Russia to establish a business on the islands. There is nothing like the Svalbard_Treaty anywere else in the world. Barentsburg had approximately 439 inhabitants in 2012 although it has had around 1000 inhabitants years ago. In addition to Barentsburg Russia used to mine in Pyramiden as well, but the last resident left in 1998. There are also other abandoned mining communities. The islands can boast a population of 2,642 i 2012, most of whom live in Longyearbyen. In addition the islands has a Norwegian research settlement in Ny-Ålesund with a winter population of 30-35 persons (se also Svalbard#Population). There are 10-12 polish researchers at Polish_Polar_Station,_Hornsund. Sveagruva is not really populated anymore, it is a sleeping facility for miners working the mine, but they are resident in Longyearbyen. There is Hopen,_Svalbard with 4 employees manning the meteorological station and which belongs to the Svalbard islands. And belonging to the jurisdiction of Svalbard we have 9 persons on a meteorological station on Bear_Island_(Norway) (Bjørnøya). There is also a tradition for hunters to stay the winter in remote areas along the coast, not many and less than before. If you want to show the actual areas where there is a population actually living and speaking any language you end up with little more than dots on the map, the islands are very big and mostly quite uninhabited. There is a lot of snow and ice (File:Spitzbergen-2 hg.jpg) and quite a few File:Polar-Bear-Warning-Longyearbyen.jpg roaming the islands.
2b. In addition to Svalbard, Norway has about 40 scientists on 12 research stations on our territory Queen_Maud_Land, no one residing on Bouvet_Island and Peter_I_Island. We have about 18 persons on Jan_Mayen. And we used to have a community big enough to have a church at Grytviken, but this is British (or contended). Probably forgot something.
3. The difference between Norwegian and Swedish is less than between Spanish and Portuguese and I guess it is probably closer to the difference between Brazilian Portuguese and Portuguese in Portugal. All Norwegians can speak their own language when talking to a Swede and vice versa. So all of Sweden has a working knowledge of Norwegian. They are considered to speak Swedish though.
1. The situation of the Sami languages is really a case for separate maps (I think). We have three Sami language groups. Category:Linguistic maps of the Sami languages contains several maps. Sami is as Fobos probably already know (but not all the readers of this discussion knows) not a Germanic language or a Indo-European language. Today the Norwegian Sami people speaks fluent Norwegian. The sad situation is however due to the forced assimilation policy many years ago a lot of the Sami people do not speak any Sami language (see Sami_people#Sami_groups_and_languages). This map I think is probably quite right File:Sami_languages_large_2.png and the dark yellow areas shows areas where there is a consentration of Sami speaking people. The dark yellow areas does however cover a lot of very sparsely or not populated areas.
An important question is what should the map show?
6. Should the map show the situation for Norwegian alone? Is it at all possible to do a good representation of the situation for the Sami language and the Norwegian language in one map? Will a combination be fair to the Sami languages?
7. Areas of origins of languages is another matter. Languages travel and change with the people speaking them. Of this we know some, guess some, but this would really be a map of where ethnic groups have been resident in different periods of time.
Sorry, I think you could add some territories, but should stay to the areas which are considered to be part of Norway.
What I will do is ping User:Jon Harald Søby (who made one of the maps and who is a linguist) and User:Orland (who does know a lot about both the Sami languages and Norwegian). They might have some ideas and know about useful and accurate language maps on the net.
I hope this was at least a little bit helpful, and again I apologise for being upset in the beginning. I really did not know what to do and I would not have started any mass removal of images whithout being shure of the procedure since this would be unnecessary hard on a good faith creator of the file/s. Anything else first, but even so a wrong choice!! --ツツ Dyveldi☯13:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, then I gonna proceed to do this: First, I go to change the Svalbard Islands for dark blue all less the Russian city with people living today of Barentsburg, I will ignore the uninhabited regions because I should change many regions of inner Norway too, so I will colored all island territories like now. Second I will colored all Norway in dark blue, ignoring the Sami languages because it use is minority. Third I will put the Swedish territory in grey like you indicated me, actually it was something rare to me because I already know about the ineligibility of Norwegian, Swedish and Danish (even Icelandic and Faroese probably too), so I already sospected about maps on which I relied, good example with brasilian and european Portuguese, but I want to say something about, there is a linguistic fenomenon between Portuguese an Spanish named Asymmetric intelligibility, because Portuguese people can understand well Spanish, but for Spanish people is more difficult understand Portuguese, it ocurre bettween Hispanoamerica and Brasil in the same way, and between Portuguese an Galician language too. It was just a remark that may interest you. --Fobos | ¿algo que decirme?16:29, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a million for your kind understanding Fobos. Barentsburg is a bit big, but to show on the map at all it has to be, don't change it. Really a good job. To your questions, I am not shure of the linguistic term Asymmetric intelligibility, but yes there is assymetries in how well Scandinavians understand each other. Swedes does quite often have more problems with Norwegian than the other way around. This could be a consequence of Norwegian television showing more Swedish programs than the other way around. Norwegians are more exposed to the Swedish language from an early age. Scandinavian TV-programs are quite often bought and published by the other Scandinavian countries. Sweden is bigger and produces more programs. The programs are not dubbed, but texted (but so are Norwegian programs in Norway). We also have the fact that Norwegians have a habit of traveling to Sweden or Denmark to shop groceries and this gives us more experience in understanding our brethren. We are quite used to listen to each other. Danes understand non-dialect Norwegian very well, but Norwegians can have serious problems with Danish pronounciation even though the differences between the written languages are less than between Swedish and Norwegian. Norwegians should avoid speaking dialect when visiting Denmark, but I must admit some dialects spoken strongly will also give me problems. Danish and Swedish are more different than Norwegian and Swedish or Norwegian and Danish. Danish pronounciation is an obstacle which creates assymetries and written Danish is slightly more differend from Swedish than written Norwegian. --ツツ Dyveldi☯17:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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This file is inaccurate. Norwegian is the official language and also the majority language in the whole mainland, except for Kautokeino municipality. Even there the majority of the population speaks Norwegian, even if 90% is said to have Northern Sami as native language. In Sweden the official and majority language is Swedish, but note that the Nordic languages are very closely related. In all I think there are to many errors here and the map should be deleted unless it can be promptly fixed. A similar map is removed from the article about Norwegian language at nowiki. [6]Jeblad (talk) 11:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This map does not show any linguistic minorities or majorities, and does not show where the languages are official. What it shows is a whole group of Germanic languages spoken. In northern Scandinavia native languages are the Sami languages, not Scandinavian. I'm not saying that Norwegian and Swedish aren't spoken, even I dont say that they are minority languages. What is shown in the north are the regions in which it is shared with other non-Germanic languages. Similarly in Wales, Ireland and Scotland are blank areas to identify areas of Celtic domain, although this domain does not have a majority. If we are to be as exquisite we should leave in color gray the interior of the island of Iceland because nobody lives there.--Fobos | ¿algo que decirme?16:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. (se also Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to illustrate the distribution of. All of Norway speaks Norwegian. All of Sweden speaks Swedish. Sweden does not have Norwegian speaking areas or a Norwegian speaking minority as shown in this file. In both Sweden and Norway we do have our brethren from the other side of the border mostly working in the big cities. This said, Swedish and Norwegian are very closely related and we can understand each other (mostly though on occation we misunderstand each other). A Swede can live in Norway and speak Swedish in Norway and he/she will be understood (and vice versa). Both languages have a plethora of dialects. The areas in Sweden this file shows as partly Norwegian speaking areas are the areas Båhuslen, Jämtland and Härjedalen which was lost to Norway and became Swedish (1177/78-1645 and approx.1000-1658) with the consequenses this had for both the spoken and written language in the areas. Although nobody spoke modern Norwegian or Swedish at the time. They do not have a Norwegian speaking minority, the northernmost area does have a Swedish dialect that is closer to Norwegian than other Swedish dialects though.
In a few areas in Norway such as Kautokeino a considerable part of the population is bilingual and has a choice as to which language they consider their main language and prefer to learn in school (and if they chose Sami they also learn Norwegian). Some municipalities also have Sami as an option to chose in communication with Norwegian authorities. More than 50 years ago quite a few in these areas were not able to speak Norwegian and only spoke Sami or Finnish. This is no longer the situation. This file does not show which areas this was. The Norwegian government netsite: Samelovens språkregler og forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk has a map of the municipalities that has elected to use both Norwegian and Sami as official languages to communicate with their inhabitants (see section Forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk (dark grey areas has Sami and Norwegian both and equally as official languages)). Especially in these areas there is a large portion of the population who are bilingual. This file does not correspond to the Norwegian goverments map of municipalities having chosen Sami as official language along with Norwegian due to having a large part of the population being bilingual and preferring to use Sami.
This file clearly does not correspond with actual language usage in either Norway or Sweden. This file is inaccurate beyong redemption. My apologies for beeing a quite upset on behalf of my country and my country's languages and not politely understating my opinion of this file. I do understand that the file is the result good will and hard work, but unfortunately not a success and the file should not be used in any article on Wikipedia or elsewere. This is the case for some other files on Commons which is or will also be requested deleted. --ツツ Dyveldi☯17:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, if someone think there is something wrong in the map, I invite him to modificate it. If you are norwish or swedish and you know better the reality of the languages I tell you plainly, modify it according to your criteria. I'm sure you will do well. The map is a .PNG easily modificabe by several computer programs. Delete it is the easy way, but instead of destroying the work of other users who put their time in it, what we should do is to get it better fits the reality. This is how wikimedia works. --Fobos | ¿algo que decirme?13:07, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I do understand that this probably originiated with one map being copied and that this is not fun for several creators. I do apologise for being upset and so not understating the problem as politely as possible. This conserns several files and the discussion seems to have consentrated here Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png. The accurate file is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nordiska_språk.PNG. Of the files that you mention two is also inaccurate and in the File:Europe germanic-languages 2.PNG (the map in the middle above) I do not understand what the terms East Scandinavian and West Scandinavian refer to. Generally Danish is closer to Norwegian than Swedish (in writing) and that Norwegian New Norwegian (written language) is pretty close to Swedish, but that det biggest difference between the languages is between Swedish and Danish. This is not what the map says. It seems that a map that is inaccurate or wrong is not a deletion reason (Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png) which means that another way of fixing this must be found. One intermediary solution can be to remove the maps from their present categories and to place them in a category for maps in need of repair. --ツツ Dyveldi☯13:43, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
delete, per extreme lack of accurancy. No reliable source can have been used making this map. First: Norwegian is spoken all over Norway. Second: the border distinction between nynorsk and bokmål is wrong in any way, whatever you search for nynorsk municipalities nor "spoken nynorsk" (which is a highly Original Research-appraoch). Third: It is likely hard to understand which sources are used to create the borders between swedish dialects, if that is the intention. Fourth: The absence of Elfdalian underlines the lack of factual knowledge in these matters. --Morten Haugen (talk) 17:18, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: this map is very good. It pictures what it wants to picture. It is NOT about official language here, state laws or whatever is discussed above. It is an approximation of the big westgermanic supradialects. And also: never delete anything good (but maybe not perfect) unless you can provide something better. Bring a better map, than we can discuss. Until than, I strongly oppose any deletion of this very well done work. --El bes (talk) 17:40, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This map cetainly does not picture the things is says it should picture. Why is there no "big westgermanic supradialects" in northern Troms, Finnmark or Norrbotten? This is in no way what languages in Norway or Sweden look like to us who live her. If someone knows better than us, they should be able to provide realiable sources!? There is no need to turn the table against us who point out the errors. Here is an allegory: If I tell that your car has a flat tyre, you should be grateful, and either change the tyre or stop using the car. There is no use in ordering us to bring a new tyre; your tyre is flat no matter whether we can provide better tyres or not. Bw --Morten Haugen (talk) 18:53, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
delete (and redo): ...Moreover, the prevalence of Low German seems highly exaggerated. As it is, the map could be justified as correctly indicating the area within the bounds of which small traces of Low German might still be encountered today, i.e. here and there, embedded in a majority of High German speakers. But Northern Germany is not an area "occupied" by Low German, as the explanation of the map suggests. The general strategy of the map seems to be that a majority language is not shown in an area as soon as there is also some kind of other minority language there. In so far, the map might even be saved by giving the right kind of explanations, but the whole strategy doesn't make sense IMHO, and any explanations are going to look confusing. -- As far as German is concerned, it is also not clear how Standard German relates to the two varieties shown, i.e. whether Upper German is meant here as a dialect of Standard German or as the area where today's Standard German has originated historically. It's a pity because it is a beautiful map. If somebody will redraw it, I would suggest, quite in general, to indicate areas in terms of the standard language applicable there, as an outline, plus hatched areas that can be explained as containing certain minority varieties in addition (e.g. Low German within the area of Standard German; maybe the same can be made to work with Scandinavian and with English / Scots / etc. ?).--Alazon (talk) 18:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Fobos has been most kind and understanding in this discussion: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png and shown both will and understanding of the problem so the problem was fixed. What if it is possible to start with doing the same changes in this file? To make a distinction between Norwegian Bokmaal and Nynorsk is not necessary. For this distinction we have these files File:Norwegianmalforms.png 2007 situation File:Målformer i Norge mk.svg 2011 situation. Both probably reflect which municipalities has officially decided on one or the other (or no preference) of our two written languages. Dialects in Norway is a different kettle of fish. Trying to make this distinction would ony make the final product a mess.
Then we have a Swedish problem and I rather think Sweden should be one language as well.
For the other Germanic languages we need a proper linguist. I am a bit uncertain if half of Belgium will agree to speaking Dutch. Likewise I am uncertain if the Irish dialect is not just as different from Englands spoken language as Scottish is. There are some dialects whithin England as well. Maybe English with it's dialects should be one colour?
The way I see it, this map depicts the traditional distribution of the Germanic languages. That is to say: around 100 to 50 years ago when much of the ground research on these languages was done and when the basic divisions were established. When describing the Germanic languages, that's usually what linguists will aim for. This explains the non-Germanic areas in Scandinavia, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, as well as the Germanic areas in France, and Low German, where these varieties are not really dominant anymore. Ideally we would have two maps, one showing the situation 50 years ago, and one showing the current situation. But to delete this one altogether seems a bit extreme. --Terfili (talk) 10:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is getting more and more curious. Now, Terfili is telling us that there weren't living enough norwegian speaking people in the cities Tromsø, Hammerfest, Vadsø nor Vardø between 1914 and 1964 to consist a linguistic majority. I hope he has good sources, for this is very new to me.
In Sweden, the mining city en:Kiruna was established around 1900. There was a huge immigration of miners, and it is a fair guess that most of them were of swedish tongue? Not sami speaking? Right? Furthermore, I wonder what criteria that were used to establish the border between swedish-speaking areas and non-swedish-speaking areas? It is not the border of Norrbotten County, so what could it possibly be? A river? A minor watershed?
Then, there is also the question about the alleged norwegian speaking people in Sweden, as adressed in File talk:Europe germanic-languages 2.PNG, and about the sourceless division between nynorsk and bokmål
The best solution to this case, is for Fobos to admit that he has used poor sources or no sources, and to realize that he has to start over again. Misguiding maps like this one is not helping the reputation of Wikipedia/Wikimedia. Bw --Morten Haugen (talk) 16:00, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For any linguistic map, there is always some critizism coming from some region, which is not even the focus of the map. This is not a scandinavian map, actually the scandinavian germanic languages don't even belong to the western germanic group, but to the northern germanic group. They are just pictured as an extra on this map. The focus is on the western germanic languages, and concerning those, the map is very useful. --El bes (talk) 18:53, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, El bes. That was an expected and predictable second line of defence: After "There isn't anything wrong with this map" have proved impossible comes "You're not a significant part of this map, therefore your opinion doesn't matter."
If this is supposed to be a map only about West Germanic languages, then the map should be cropped and renamed to reflect this. Until then, please allow us to point out errors and request remaking of the map (or realiable sources to prove the content of the map, if such exists)
Furthermore, this is not only a question abour swedish and norwegian. As user:Alazon points of, there are also good reason to raise questions about the border between high and low german. If there are problems/questions about the representation of both german, swedish and norwegian; how can we then be confident about those remaining languages that we do not know anything about? Do we have any reliable sources to prove that they don't speak scottish english in western Scotland?
And at last, and most important: Alazon also questions the concept of the map: "The general strategy of the map seems to be that a majority language is not shown in an area as soon as there is also some kind of other minority language there". Is this principle approved by standard linguistic cartography, or is it some kind or original research from Fobos and the sources that he has used? This is what i all boils down to, isn't it? Bw --Morten Haugen (talk) 20:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Anybody can modify the map and upload a new and better version. Deletion on the other hand is not the very best option, in my opinion. And we are discussing here a deletion, aren't we? --El bes (talk) 04:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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My comment from the first deletion request regarding this file which became hidden after this file was moved from File:For sell 400$ lowest is 350$ 2013-08-18 22-10.jpg (note for which purpose this image was uploaded!) to its current name:
Single contribution of an user who apparently was not aware of COM:SCOPE. Independent from the original misguided intent, this photograph is not really worth to be kept, it is badly cropped, it is noisy, it has a hard to remove signature, and the colors look somewhat strange. It is unsurprisingly not used anywhere. AFBorchert (talk) 13:01, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The complainant is referring to this website. They have confirmed via OTRS #2014100810014738 that they are the uploader. I have advised them that since they legitimately uploaded the image in the public domain, the website in question is entitled to use it. Yunshui (talk) 08:26, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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out of scope of Wiki Loves Monuments Pakistan - depicts a political rally - competition is about cultural monuments only Rzafar (talk) 13:39, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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This file was initially tagged by Rzafar as duplicate (dup) and the most recent rationale was: duplicate|File:By_@ibneAzhar-Mauoselum_of_Qutubud_Din_Aibak-Anarkali_Bazar-Lahore-Pakistan_(2).JPG Converted by me to DR, as these are not really duplicates. In addition, the nominated photo is IMO better than the to-remain-photo, it shows less image distortion than the latter. So, my vote is Keep for both. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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From the fact that this nomination contains multiple obvious free images like File:Liege Loc 201010.jpg I conclude that this nomination is rather sloppy. I hate sloppy nominations because those might get free images deleted. Please clean up the list so that it only contains clear FOP violations. You might want to (re-)read Commons:De minimis too. Multichill (talk) 21:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Les lois sont là, d'accord, mais il y a quand même des limites à la déraison : si M. Calatrava ne voulait pas que l'on montre ou voit sa gare, qui est en l'un des lieux les plus fréquentés de la ville de Liège, il ne fallait pas la construire, ou alors qu'on l'emballe, et si on demande cela à Christo, c'est lui qui touchera les droits ? Immensément stupide et hypocrite ce débat, auquel je ne participerai pas au-delà de cette remarque. --Jean Housen 19:13, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
I deleted the clear cases (and the workers were one, a photo about them would have zoomed more), the aerial view and the maquettes version. File:Liege Loc 201010.jpg is kept.
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Ich habe eine Genehmigung von Santiago persönlich. Aber immer löscht... Das macht langsam keinen Spaß mehr. --Ralf Roleček14:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Außerdem ist die Architektue bei keinem der Bilder Hauptobjekt, die Bilder vom Bahnhof selbst habe ich erst gar nicht hochgeladen, die sind auf meiner Homepage.[reply]
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The Non-profit organisation Aid Takata holds the rights for the mascot たかたのゆめちゃん (Takata-no-Yumechan). According to its website the use of the mascot is subject to payment ("商標の使用は有償"), meaning not freely usable. Yasu (talk) 15:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep I don't know what the meaning of "conflicts" is here, sine the filenames are different (each has the correct specific extension for its filetype and both filetypes are specifically blessed by CHEM MOS). But if we have svg, no objection to scrapping png if it's in any way inferior in content. But but, there are mistakes in the svg that are correct in the png (inferior content is not a suitable replacement for superior, regardless of filetype). The "H2N" are mis-aligned on their respective bonds of structures 2 and 4, and the bond to the amino group on all structures is too long (running into the N/H text itself rather than just up to its edge). DMacks (talk) 18:25, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Many or all of the authors are clearly credited in the hand-written text and there is no evidence that any of them has been dead for at least 70 years. Also, as this is a manuscript, it is unlikely to have been published, and United Kingdom law has a minimum term of publication+50 years which must be satisfied even if the author has been dead for at least 50 years. The question on whether it has been published also affects the copyright term under United States law. On the file information page, it says that The Southern Medical Society has given permission to upload this under {{Cc-zero}}, but there is neither evidence that such permission has been given or that the society is authorised to give such permission in the first place. The copyright holders are presumably the authors of the manuscripts, or, if they are dead, the heirs of the authors. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:14, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Ownership of the minutes of meetings of a society or other body do not lie with the actual writer of those minutes, as the above comment seems to suggest. (Think about it for a minute. It would lead to the ludicrous situation of Parliament/Congress/Microsoft/Whatever having to seek permission from a secretary every time they wanted to quote from a hearing or issue a press release, simply because that secretary had taken down the minutes of the meeting.) No. The copyright in these minutes, as with the meeting minutes of any other appropriately constituted society, lies with the society itself, which in practical terms means the elected office holders of that society. I happen to be one of those for the Glasgow Southern Medical Society. At one of our board meetings, it was decided to publish our old minute books, and to dedicate the copyright to the public domain. When I uploaded them, I thought I had made the right declaration - clearly I haven't. I have referred the matter back to the Society so that the appropriate declaration can be made, but this will take some time. In the meantime, can we have a stay of execution?--johnhglen (talk)
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Not sure why it says "Kept: as per Johnhglen." As pointed out, this requires a valid OTRS ticket. Therefore, a closure "Kept: as per Johnhglen" would require that Johnhglen has provided a valid OTRS ticket. However, there is no indication anywhere in the deletion discussion that such an OTRS ticket has been provided. Stefan4 (talk) 17:37, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Re-opened: closed by the same user. Still no evidence that an OTRS ticket has been provided, or that the uploader represents the copyright holder. Stefan4 (talk) 13:25, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
WTF? If this book (cover included) is actually published in 1911, your two nominations lacks of sense. The file is properly sourced (except for the {{PD-Old}} tag), and many sources were found in some Websites, including Wikisource. And also, the file is currently used in wikisource! --Amitie 10g (talk) 03:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Please prove that all of the authors have been dead for at least 70 years, as required by the {{PD-old}} template. Also please prove that the book has been published. This is a manuscript, and manuscripts are often not published. In the United Kingdom, literary works are copyrighted until 50 years after publication, if first published more than 20 years after the death of the author. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Stefan4: even if you are right, you should not reopen the DR you created yourself as this can be considered as kind of editwaring. Ask sb else for assistance in such cases.
@Johnhglen: what is your progress with the permission?
My suggestion is to transform this DR into a regular {{No permission since}} and restore after deletion if permission processing takes too long. I doubt there is a real copyright violation here; we just need a permission. Ankry (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Interesting legal question here. I do not think that Johnhglen's argument is necessarily correct. Certainly in a business corporation or a legislative body, the person doing the recording of proceedings will be under a work for hire contract and the copyright will belong to the organization. However, unless the Medical Society was very careful in its organization (and can prove that it had a written agreement with each of the minute keepers over the years) I doubt that the copyright to these minutes actually belongs to the Society. Minutes are very rarely a verbatim account of the proceedings -- there is always a good deal of choice in what to include and not include, so I have little doubt that a copyright exists.
Even if we accept Johnhglen's argument, though, our rules are very clear that when a copyright belongs to an organization, we must get OTRS permission from an authorized officer of the organization. We do not, after all, actually know anything about Johnhglen except as a user here -- that is why we have OTRS. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:51, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted: I have to agree with Jim on this one and therefor I deleted the file. I searched for an OTRS-ticket but I could not find a relevant ticket. We don't keep files which lack evidence of permission forever. As for Stefan, please don't renominate files over and over when you disagree with a closing. Rather discuss it with the closing admin first. Natuur12 (talk) 11:52, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. (se also Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to illustrate the distribution of. All of Norway speaks Norwegian. All of Sweden speaks Swedish. Sweden does not have Norwegian speaking areas or a Norwegian speaking minority as shown in this file. In both Sweden and Norway we do have our brethren from the other side of the border mostly working in the big cities. This said, Swedish and Norwegian are very closely related and we can understand each other (mostly though on occation we misunderstand each other). A Swede can live in Norway and speak Swedish in Norway and he/she will be understood (and vice versa). Both languages have a plethora of dialects. The areas in Sweden this file shows as partly Norwegian speaking areas are the areas Båhuslen, Jämtland and Härjedalen which was lost to Norway and became Swedish (1177/78-1645 and approx.1000-1658) with the consequenses this had for both the spoken and written language in the areas. Although nobody spoke modern Norwegian or Swedish at the time. They do not have a Norwegian speaking minority, the northernmost area does have a Swedish dialect that is closer to Norwegian than other Swedish dialects though. In a few areas in Norway such as Kautokeino a considerable part of the population is bilingual and has a choice as to which language they consider their main language and prefer to learn in school (and if they chose Sami they also learn Norwegian). Some municipalities also have Sami as an option to chose in communication with Norwegian authorities. More than 50 years ago quite a few in these areas were not able to speak Norwegian and only spoke Sami or Finnish. This is no longer the situation. This file does not show which areas this was. The Norwegian government netsite: Samelovens språkregler og forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk has a map of the municipalities that has elected to use both Norwegian and Sami as official languages to communicate with their inhabitants (see section Forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk (dark grey areas has Sami and Norwegian both and equally as official languages)). Especially in these areas there is a large portion of the population who are bilingual. This file does not correspond to the Norwegian goverments map of municipalities having chosen Sami as official language along with Norwegian due to having a large part of the population being bilingual and preferring to use Sami. This file clearly does not correspond with actual language usage in either Norway or Sweden. This file is inaccurate beyong redemption. My apologies for beeing a quite upset on behalf of my country and my country's languages and not politely understating my opinion of this file. I do understand that the file is the result good will and hard work, but unfortunately not a success and the file should not be used in any article on Wikipedia or elsewere. This is the case for some other files on Commons which is or will also be requested deleted. --ツツ Dyveldi☯ 17:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC) ツツ Dyveldi☯18:00, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you think the image shouldn't be used, you can try to convince local communities not to use it, but this is not a reason to delete it while it's used.--Pere prlpz (talk) 11:13, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Answer, the description of the file is «English: The present-day distribution of the Germanic languages in Europe:» and this description does reflect reality. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to show. It is not reliable for Scandinavia and I have serious misgivings that the almost invisible dots does not reflect bilingualism correctly. It is always possible to change the description, but do not know to what except to describe a warning not to use the file and I did not feel free to do that. As long as this description is kept the file will be included in articles in good faith. --ツツ Dyveldi☯15:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter in Commons. Commons is here to host files for other projects, not to editorialise them or tell them what images to use. If you think the file shouldn't be used in Wikipedias, go to the Wikipedias and ask them not to use it, but while it's in use in other projects, it can't be deleted from Commons per commons:scope.--Pere prlpz (talk) 18:40, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. (se also Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to illustrate the distribution of. All of Norway speaks Norwegian. All of Sweden speaks Swedish. Sweden does not have Norwegian speaking areas or a Norwegian speaking minority as shown in this file. In both Sweden and Norway we do have our brethren from the other side of the border mostly working in the big cities. This said, Swedish and Norwegian are very closely related and we can understand each other (mostly though on occation we misunderstand each other). A Swede can live in Norway and speak Swedish in Norway and he/she will be understood (and vice versa). Both languages have a plethora of dialects. The areas in Sweden this file shows as partly Norwegian speaking areas are the areas Båhuslen, Jämtland and Härjedalen which was lost to Norway and became Swedish (1177/78-1645 and approx.1000-1658) with the consequenses this had for both the spoken and written language in the areas. Although nobody spoke modern Norwegian or Swedish at the time. They do not have a Norwegian speaking minority, the northernmost area does have a Swedish dialect that is closer to Norwegian than other Swedish dialects though. In a few areas in Norway such as Kautokeino a considerable part of the population is bilingual and has a choice as to which language they consider their main language and prefer to learn in school (and if they chose Sami they also learn Norwegian). Some municipalities also have Sami as an option to chose in communication with Norwegian authorities. More than 50 years ago quite a few in these areas were not able to speak Norwegian and only spoke Sami or Finnish. This is no longer the situation. This file does not show which areas this was. The Norwegian government netsite: Samelovens språkregler og forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk has a map of the municipalities that has elected to use both Norwegian and Sami as official languages to communicate with their inhabitants (see section Forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk (dark grey areas has Sami and Norwegian both and equally as official languages)). Especially in these areas there is a large portion of the population who are bilingual. This file does not correspond to the Norwegian goverments map of municipalities having chosen Sami as official language along with Norwegian due to having a large part of the population being bilingual and preferring to use Sami. This file clearly does not correspond with actual language usage in either Norway or Sweden. This file is inaccurate beyong redemption. My apologies for beeing a quite upset on behalf of my country and my country's languages and not politely understating my opinion of this file. I do understand that the file is the result good will and hard work, but unfortunately not a success and the file should not be used in any article on Wikipedia or elsewere. This is the case for some other files on Commons which is or will also be requested deleted. --ツツ Dyveldi☯ 17:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC) ツツ Dyveldi☯18:01, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. (se also Commons:Deletion requests/File:Idioma noruego.png. It is not possible to understand what this file is supposed to illustrate the distribution of. All of Norway speaks Norwegian. All of Sweden speaks Swedish. Sweden does not have Norwegian speaking areas or a Norwegian speaking minority as shown in this file. In both Sweden and Norway we do have our brethren from the other side of the border mostly working in the big cities. This said, Swedish and Norwegian are very closely related and we can understand each other (mostly though on occation we misunderstand each other). A Swede can live in Norway and speak Swedish in Norway and he/she will be understood (and vice versa). Both languages have a plethora of dialects. The areas in Sweden this file shows as partly Norwegian speaking areas are the areas Båhuslen, Jämtland and Härjedalen which was lost to Norway and became Swedish (1177/78-1645 and approx.1000-1658) with the consequenses this had for both the spoken and written language in the areas. Although nobody spoke modern Norwegian or Swedish at the time. They do not have a Norwegian speaking minority, the northernmost area does have a Swedish dialect that is closer to Norwegian than other Swedish dialects though. In a few areas in Norway such as Kautokeino a considerable part of the population is bilingual and has a choice as to which language they consider their main language and prefer to learn in school (and if they chose Sami they also learn Norwegian). Some municipalities also have Sami as an option to chose in communication with Norwegian authorities. More than 50 years ago quite a few in these areas were not able to speak Norwegian and only spoke Sami or Finnish. This is no longer the situation. This file does not show which areas this was. The Norwegian government netsite: Samelovens språkregler og forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk has a map of the municipalities that has elected to use both Norwegian and Sami as official languages to communicate with their inhabitants (see section Forvaltningsområdet for samisk språk (dark grey areas has Sami and Norwegian both and equally as official languages)). Especially in these areas there is a large portion of the population who are bilingual. This file does not correspond to the Norwegian goverments map of municipalities having chosen Sami as official language along with Norwegian due to having a large part of the population being bilingual and preferring to use Sami. This file clearly does not correspond with actual language usage in either Norway or Sweden. This file is inaccurate beyong redemption. My apologies for beeing a quite upset on behalf of my country and my country's languages and not politely understating my opinion of this file. I do understand that the file is the result good will and hard work, but unfortunately not a success and the file should not be used in any article on Wikipedia or elsewere. This is the case for some other files on Commons which is or will also be requested deleted. --ツツ Dyveldi☯ 17:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC) ツツ Dyveldi☯18:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support, per extreme lack of accurancy. No reliable source can have been used making this map, as far as Norway and Sweden are considered. --Morten Haugen (talk) 16:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Reims, le 8 octobre 2014 Chers amis, Ne voyez surtout aucune manifestation d’hostilité envers l’Encyclopédie Wikipédia dans cette demande. Je vous explique : il faudrait changer la photo qui figure dans l’Encyclopédie parce qu’elle me dessert physiquement et je pense que vous le comprendrez aisément. Je l’ai découverte il y a quelques mois. De jeunes lecteurs, (je publie beaucoup pour la jeunesse, en particulier à l’Ecole des Loisirs) ne m’y trouvent pas à mon avantage, certains m’y trouvent un peu moche, eh oui… c’est dur. Je rencontre de nombreuses classes en France et vous savez comme les jeunes sont sensibles à l’image. Naturellement, c’est ennuyeux et gênant pour moi et ça n’est pas profitable à mon travail. Je vous sais au service et à l’écoute des auteurs. Aussi, voulais-je absolument vous parler de ce désagrément afin que nous nous mettions d’accord sur le choix d’une autre photo. Si vous voulez d’abord m’en proposez une ? Sinon, je peux tout à fait vous en proposer une libre de droit. En attendant que nous nous soyons entendus sur ce point, je vous serais très reconnaissante de ne pas laisser la photo actuelle. Je vous remercie vivement de votre compréhension et vous assure de mes sentiments les plus cordiaux. Gisèle Bienne. Jul des Forêts (talk) 18:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour, je n'ai hélas pas d'autre photo à proposer. Je ne voulais pas vous porter préjudice. Celle-ci me semblait sympathique, sinon je ne l'aurais pas "uploadée". Si vous en avez une meilleure pour la remplacer, j'appuierai votre demande de suppression de la mienne. Demandez au photographe de la charger ici et bien sûr de la placer sous licence cc-by-sa. Ce n'est pas l'autorisation du sujet de la photo qui est requise mais celle de son auteur.
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Chers amis, Ne voyez surtout aucune manifestation d’hostilité envers l’Encyclopédie Wikipédia dans cette demande. Je vous explique : il faudrait changer la photo qui figure dans l’Encyclopédie parce qu’elle me dessert physiquement et je pense que vous le comprendrez aisément. Je l’ai découverte il y a quelques mois. De jeunes lecteurs, (je publie beaucoup pour la jeunesse, en particulier à l’Ecole des Loisirs) ne m’y trouvent pas à mon avantage, certains m’y trouvent un peu moche, eh oui… c’est dur. Je rencontre de nombreuses classes en France et vous savez comme les jeunes sont sensibles à l’image. Naturellement, c’est ennuyeux et gênant pour moi et ça n’est pas profitable à mon travail. Je vous sais au service et à l’écoute des auteurs. Aussi, voulais-je absolument vous parler de ce désagrément afin que nous nous mettions d’accord sur le choix d’une autre photo. Si vous voulez d’abord m’en proposez une ? Sinon, je peux tout à fait vous en proposer une libre de droit. En attendant que nous nous soyons entendus sur ce point, je vous serais très reconnaissante de ne pas laisser la photo actuelle. Je vous remercie vivement de votre compréhension et vous assure de mes sentiments les plus cordiaux. Gisèle Bienne. Jul des Forêts (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Dis yo seen the uploader's username (Jen Ross UN Women) closer? The username may be considered as a single-purposes account, but the loog is too simple to meet the Treshold of originality. --Amitie 10g (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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This file was initially tagged by EugeneZelenko as no license. Well there is a CC tag. Thats a collage of many banknotes. I dout realy all of them are public domain or similar. JuTa21:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Unsure about the {{FoP-India}}, since that is for permanent art works. If we cannot confirm that it's permanently situated there, we can't invoke FOP. And if we don't know how old they are, we can't rely on them being out of copyright. Josve05a (talk) 22:15, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, I had a talk with some OTRS-agents on IRC, and the ticket was only from the photographer, and (from what i could tell from the conversation) it had nothing to do with the FOP. Josve05a (talk) 09:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The style is not 18th century - clearly looks like some 20-21st century Russian painters (Nesterenko, Shilov)'s work. Please note too bright red draperies and too smoothed sky, legs to thin. For me, with my educated eye in Russian portraiture, it is quite modern. Please note the difference - file:Boris Sheremetyev by I.Argunov (1768, Kuskovo).jpg.
So, authorship is unproved, and it can be deleted as copyright violation
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Out of scope. This image of a house in Vilvoorde was uploaded in the WLM campaign. The house on the picture is, however, not a cultural heritage building. The actual cultural heritage building has been destructed to make place for this one. Henxter (talk) 16:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
The building had been filed as cultural heritage monument: 40766 but was destroyed afterwards: [9]Henxter (talk) 16:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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It is of a significantly lower quality than Methyl bromide.svg, which shows the same molecule. The lines are not properly aligned, and it lacks the triangluar lines which should indicate its three-dimentional structure. GKFXtalk16:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Commons and Flickr accounts appear to belong to the same person. If Tamir Bargig agreed with releasing these images under the terms of the CC BY-SA 2.0 or 4.0, he/she would have to contact OTRS.
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Comment: The question is not whether it's in scope of Polandball, but whether it is in Wikimedia Commons' project scope. Otherwise, in scope of selfie would be a valid reason to object deletion as well. Both reasons would be valid if the file nominated file was the only Polandball comic or selfie the project had. However, I would never call any artwork stupid, as this is indeed something subjective and even possibly offensive. FDMS 4 16:20, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@FDMS4: it is in Commons scope because it could reasonably be used to illustrate Polandball. It doesn't have to be in use to be in scope; only that it be reasonable for it to be put into use -- and that is a decision that is not left up to us here on Commons. russavia (talk) 06:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@FDSM4: because Commons is simply a media repository. We leave it up to those who wish to use materials to decide whether to use them or not. This includes not only Wikimedia projects, but those who might write books on internet memes, or news articles on memes, etc, etc. If there is any chance, even a slight chance, it can be used within an "educational" context then we should host it. russavia (talk) 12:10, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Russavia: To be eligible for hosting on Wikimedia Commons, all files and other content must fall within the Commons scope. Now, as "within the Commons scope" is not a true/false EXIF parameter or anything similar, it is up to the Commons community to decide on how the project scope should be defined and whether certain files meet these definitions or not. According to COM:SCOPE the question should not only be whether this file "could reasonably be used to illustrate Polandball [or any other notable subject]", but whether it [is adding anything] educationally distinct to the collection of images we already hold covering the same subject. FDMS 4 20:35, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Breach of copyright; images duplicates the periodic table appearing on the inside cover of the 2010–11 Handbook of Physics and Chemistry by CRC Press Sandbh (talk) 06:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The periodic table is not copyrighted! I understand the image is recreated (not photocopied) by the author. As a table (2-dimensional, or 3 if you count the coloring) it is a common geometrical form. As a periodic table, it shows existing scientific facts & opinions, not the (copyright-able) creative product of a CRC Press editor.
(aside: as the image is today, I do not see it fit for usage on my home enwiki, but that is not relevant here. Also, the name could be better). -DePiep (talk) 09:41, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Sorry, I can't read German, but IMO the issue with your pictures remain. I don't know if you're claiming {{PD-GermanGov}} or maybe {{PD-Coa-Germany}}. If so, it would be clearly stated in the description. I assume that the Pionierorganisation "Ernst Thälmann" was part of the FDJ and therefore a government agency, but the current {{PD-GermanGov}} talks about "a statute, ordinance, official decree or judgment issued by a German federal or state authority or court", and I can't see (a) whether current German legislation applies also to the former DDR, (b) how this logo can be regarded as "a statute, ordinance, official decree or judgment issued by a German federal or state authority or court". Best regards --Discastotalk | contr. | es.wiki analysis17:41, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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All these files show works by Joël Mône, a living stained glass artist. They are located in France or in private spaces, so FOP does not apply. They were uploaded by Jeanmone, which could be a relative of the author. Nevertheless, I think we need an OTRS permission to keep these files.
I'm actually the son of Joel Mone. And I actually put the pictures I snuff the work of my father.
I await the end of the discussion to execute the procedures to be within the rules of Wikipedia and laws. Thank you for keeping me informed.
Have a good day
I am glad you answer. There is no need to wait. Could you please send a permission as explained here? This would solve the problem and we could keep all these files. BrightRaven (talk) 11:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted: I can't find an OTRS-ticket, please send evidence of permission to OTRS, you may write your email in French and they will restore the files for you. Natuur12 (talk) 12:26, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Tengo los derechos de copyright de la foto, de las imágenes en blanco y negro y del cartel de fondo que ha sido diseñado por mi. Soy el organizador del encuentro "La tarde de los escritores" y del homenaje a los dos poetas ceclavineros
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Aún sigo sin entender porque va a borrar mis imágenes, por favor expliquenme porqué antes de borrarlas Cesaro2012 (talk) 20:36, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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Non-trivial logos. No evidence of permission(s). Cesaro2012 (talk) 20
37, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
In Spanish, please
I can't understand exactly what are you saying. It's my own work
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French movie by russian direkctor, financed by French and German producers; the pic showns a russian actor which does not allow to put the pic under russian copyright (and therefore mark it as pd). As a film still or screen shot it is copyright protected by French and German law. Paulae (talk) 16:00, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Info: Someone has been trying to force their own logo onto the Namecoin project they have brought their crusade to Wikipedia. The logos listed here are all using this unofficial logo that has been rejected by the developers (of which I am one). When I corrected the main Wikipedia article, an account with the username "Namecoin" reverted my edits and scolded me for using the term "correct" when referring to the correct logo. This puppet account was in violation of the username policy and it was locked. However, edits from anonymous accounts and revert wars got the article placed into semi-protected status. --Indolering (talk) 12:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC) (updated --Indolering (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]
Close without deletion – as with disputed territories, there can be different versions of a logo. After this DR is closed, I will start a scope DR. FDMS 4 15:16, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Disputed territories? I'm not sure of the Commons equivalent to relevancy and notoriety, but these logos lack both items. I've made multiple alternative logos which have even been used in semi-official capacities but they shouldn't be posted here! If I came up with an alternative logo and branding for Apple and set up a bunch of social media accounts and fake Apple stores, I'm sure my branding would be on the Commons but not because anyone saw this as a legitimate dispute. Indolering (talk) 02:36, 16 October 2014 (UTC) (updated --Indolering (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]
The Namecoin brand appears to be neither protected by trademark nor copyright laws. There are different websites and social media accounts using different logos. It is not up to the Wikimedia Commons community to decide which one is correct. Therefore, both version should be kept and the decision left up to reusers (including Wikipedia) which version they want to use. FDMS 4 21:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"The Namecoin brand appears to be neither protected by trademark nor copyright laws." We have common-law claims on the trademarks and plan on applying for formal trademark protection. I recreated all of the files in vector and I hold the copyright on those files. However, this is a straw-man argument made for the sole purpose to try and debase our credibility without any bearing on scope.
"There are different websites and social media accounts using different logos." Incorrect: the official website and all official social media accounts use the blue logo. Only social accounts controlled by a single person uses the purple logo. That person and those accounts were making false and dangerous claims about anonymity. These claims had the potential to place people's lives at risk and the core developers decided to step in.
"It is not up to the Wikimedia Commons community to decide which one is correct." You are right: it is up to the Namecoin community to decide which one is correct: I am a core Namecoin contributor and I am telling you that the purple logo is incorrect and the blue logo is correct!
"Therefore, both version should be kept and the decision left up to reusers (including Wikipedia) which version they want to use." As both your points supporting this conclusion are ALL fatally flawed, I will assume that you will reverse your stance and vote in favor of deletion. --Indolering (talk) 03:18, 19 October 2014 (UTC) (updated --Indolering (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]
You are simply failing to provide evidence that "your Namecoin (community)" is the "official Namecoin (community)". Instead, you are just insulting another person, despite being told not to do so. Wikimedia Commons is not the right place to live out any personal quarrels with another person. FDMS 4 11:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Images with the purple logo are not in use on MediaWiki related properties.
Even if if they had the correct logo, most of these images are not educational.
I find your assertion about myself and the project insulting: they are unrelated to scope and only serve to undermine our credibility. I'm sorry if my reaction to such comments also insulted yourself. I would prefer to stick to scope and I would honestly appreciate a response to my scope analysis below. --Indolering (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (only one of these were on this DR) as no permission, evidence to belive music is NC and other reasons brought up on IRC, as no evidence the YouTube-account is the copyright-owner to begin with and that the WIkipedia logo shown inside the videos are a breach of WMF's Trademark rules, but hey IANAL. Josve05a (talk) 22:35, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply] DRs split and filenames moved into a list. FDMS 4 23:07, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
'What is Namecoin?.ogg' links to a YouTube page where the rights clearly laid out. I believe that the use of the wikipedia logo falls within fair use.--Indolering (talk) 22:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
realistically useful for an educational purpose, nor
legitimately in use as discussed above
falls outside the scope of Wikimedia Commons.
The emphasis here is on realistic utility, either for one of the Wikimedia projects or for some other educational use. Not all images for example are realistically useful for an educational purpose, and an image does not magically become useful by arguing that "it could be used to illustrate a Wikipedia article on X", where X happens to be the subject of the file.
None of these files are in general use by Wikimedia related projects, including the english Namecoin Wikipedia article. The only user of these images is a single bot who automatically generates lists of new content.
The content of these logos are not educational and FDMS4's argument that "both version [sic] should be kept and the decision left up to reusers [sic] (including Wikipedia) which version they want to use." falls under a hypothetical use case which as outlined in the official guidelines does not validate the usefulness of these images.
Indeed, the VAST majority of these logos (login buttons, dummy debit cards, ) are inherently inappropriate even with the correct logo:
Deleted, all the uploader's contributions have been copyright violations. I blocked her for a week and I mass delete them all. Taivo (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Keep:The "poster" in this SFT newsletter is also work of SFT: FREE TIBETAN HEROES / Dhondup Wangchen (Google search shows no other same poster from other sources). And I don't believe SFT intends to prevent Wikimedia Commons' usage of this image. --Wildcursive (talk) 11:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Strong oppose Commons:Project_scope#File_in_use_in_another_Wikimedia_project: It should be stressed that Commons does not exist to editorialise on other projects – that an image is in use on a non talk/user page is enough for it to be within scope.
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Done --AFBorchert (talk) 16:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
WTF? If this book (cover included) is actually published in 1911, your two nominations lacks of sense. The file is properly sourced (except for the {{PD-Old}} tag), and many sources were found in some Websites, including Wikisource. And also, the file is currently used in wikisource! --Amitie 10g (talk) 03:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Strong support, per extreme lack of accurancy. No reliable source can have been used making this map, as far as Norway and Sweden are considered. --Morten Haugen (talk) 16:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Comment: Was used until now. --McZusatz (talk) 06:00, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
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Info: Someone has been trying to force their own logo onto the Namecoin project they have brought their crusade to Wikipedia. The logos listed here are all using this unofficial logo that has been rejected by the developers (of which I am one). When I corrected the main Wikipedia article, an account with the username "Namecoin" reverted my edits and scolded me for using the term "correct" when referring to the correct logo. This puppet account was in violation of the username policy and it was locked. However, edits from anonymous accounts and revert wars got the article placed into semi-protected status. --Indolering (talk) 12:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC) (updated --Indolering (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC))