Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/03/Category:Plantae
Wouldn't it be good to merge this with Category:Plants? The latter is the more common term and seems far better maintained/populated with the two essentially being about the same thing (see Plant taxonomy and Plant).
Despite of this, the former is linked from the main page and contains e.g. Category:Plantae in art with barely anything in it while Category:Plants in art (not a subcat) is well-populated. Merging should be done in a good way if it indeed does make sense (if not things like the need for an additional cat, the difference to the other cat, and the missing media/subcats should be addressed). Prototyperspective (talk) 11:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Prototyperspective: I'm late by seven months. Anyway, I support downmerging Category:Plantae to Category:Plants, as they cover basically the same kingdom, with "plants" being a common name for end users. Same for Category:Animalia versus Category:Animals. Category:Equus caballus (scientific name) already redirects to Category:Horses (common name). However, Category:Cats is a dab page, with Category:Felis silvestris catus being the category for what we commonly call as "cats". Category:Tigers and Category:Lions are redirects to Category:Panthera tigris and Category:Panthera leo respectively, which should be reversed. Same for Category:Leopards, Category:Cheetahs, Category:Walrus, Category:Sharks and so on. COM:CAT says, "Category names should generally be in English. However, there are exceptions such as some proper names, biological taxa and names for which the non-English name is most commonly used in the English language." Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 17:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Prototyperspective: I've tagged Category:Plants, Category:Aves/Category:Birds, Category:Animalia/Category:Animals, and Category:Mammalia/Category:Mammals for this. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 12:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Keep - the Commons standard for living organisms is to use the scientific name, as it is defined, unlike vernacular names which often vary between different dialects of English. Categories by vernacular names should generally be redirects (and always for individual species), or not be created at all. For higher-ranked taxa, there is a case for keeping both (e.g. Category:Aves/Category:Birds), but these should be the exception, rather than the rule - MPF (talk) 17:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
@Prototyperspective and MPF: I think keeping one category while redirecting another to the kept category is the way to go. There are several scientific/vernacular pairs to deal with:
| Scientific name | Vernacular name |
|---|---|
| Category:Animalia | Category:Animals |
| Category:Aves | Category:Birds |
| Category:Mammalia | Category:Mammals |
| Category:Plantae | Category:Plants |
To me, keeping scientific names is better than keeping vernacular ones, as it is the Commons standard I've cited. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 17:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)