Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/08
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Should be moved to "Category:Turkish Armenians". They are not visitors, they are not "in" Turkey. They are part of Turkey. E4024 (talk) 06:41, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- There are a lot of other categories with this same naming convention -- just look in any of the nominated category's parent categories. Are they all wrong? I think it's possible for an Armenian to go to Turkey (or any other country) without becoming a citizen there, so this naming makes sense to me. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- We are speaking about local people who have been living there since ages; maybe we can use the current cat for those thousands of people from Armenia attracted to Turkey for a better life. --E4024 (talk) 07:13, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- For inspiration, we have Category:German minority in the Czech Republic and Category:German people in the Czech Republic. We have a bit mess in it, but it can indicate a way how to distinguish minorities (earlier inhabitants) from visitors, occupiers etc. --ŠJů (talk) 18:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, E4024, I'd say that in standard English usage, "Turkish Armenians" would mean citizens of Armenia who are ethnic Turks. "Armenian Turks" doesn't work because Category:Turks is for ethnic Turks. I can understand why the current phrasing seems unclear, but your proposed solution is insufficient. I accept that whatever difference between the subcategories of Category:Ethnic groups in Turkey (Category:Greeks in Turkey) and the sub-categories of Category:Turkish people by ethnic or national origin (Category:Turkish people of Greek descent), it could certainly be made more explicit.- Themightyquill (talk) 22:08, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
I have the fealing that none of these firearms are actually used by the Israely police. They are used in generally but the realted pics don't show police firearms. Sanandros (talk) 21:25, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
- The Ruger was photographed during Israeli Police open day. The M1 Carbine was photographed in Police's Civil Guard base. The rest are used by the Israeli Police but photographed elsewhere. MathKnight ✡ (Talk) 09:00, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- OK M1 and Ruger I can accept but "used by the Israeli Police but photographed elsewhere" is for me not acceptable. If you do that consequently with all other nations some firearms will have a list full of nations but that violates the simplicity principle of Commons:Categories#Principles.--Sanandros (talk) 14:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'm tempted to agree with Sanandros. If you just want a collection images of the *types* of weapons used by the Israeli police, a gallery might be acceptable, or perhaps a wikipedia list. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:30, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- OK M1 and Ruger I can accept but "used by the Israeli Police but photographed elsewhere" is for me not acceptable. If you do that consequently with all other nations some firearms will have a list full of nations but that violates the simplicity principle of Commons:Categories#Principles.--Sanandros (talk) 14:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Stale discussion. @Sanandros, MathKnight, and Themightyquill: I am not oppose to make it a gallery. But maybe upmerging of these files and deleting this category would be the best solution. Notice, that this category name (<Firearms of Foo Police>) is unique in Commons database--Estopedist1 (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes make a gallery.--Sanandros (talk) 06:44, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Keep At least some of the media here appear to actually depict firearms owned by the Israeli Police, so those should be kept here. Josh (talk) 16:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)