Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/01
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crazy overcategorization. Zoupan (talk) 21:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Definitely. I appreciate a lot of effort must have gone into creating this enormous (and enormously empty) category tree, but the most generous I can be is to upmerge to Category:1250s architecture in Sweden, Category:13th-century works in Östergötland County, Category:Works in Motala Municipality and Category:History of Motala Municipality.
- This means delete:
- Category:Built in Motala Municipality in 1251
- Category:1250s architecture in Motala Municipality
- Category:1250s works in Motala Municipality
- Category:Motala Municipality by century (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:Motala Municipality by decade (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:13th-century works in Motala Municipality (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:Works in Motala Municipality by century (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:13th-century architecture in Motala Municipality
- Category:Architecture of Motala Municipality by century (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:1250s works in Sweden by municipality (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:1250s works in Sweden by county (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:Sweden in the 1250s by county (and immediate sub-categories)
- ...and probably many others. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- Going through all this, don't you think there should be a ban (a guideline) on certain categories?--Zoupan (talk) 17:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hah! I can understand your frustration, but honestly, no. I can imagine there are places where this level of categorization might be useful. Well... maybe not "by year by municipality in the 13th century" - that's really extreme - but relatively close to it. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:55, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be good to clarify where this would be plausible? Years in BC are clearly not, for example, and shouldn't there be a cap for certain sub-categories for years including at least up to the high middle ages? A guideline would certainly be a good way to start cleaning up categories such as these. I stress that at least for the early middle ages, there should be a much better way to categorize some things (do we really need to deal with "Built in 971 in former country/modern country/city/settlement" and "1031 in X"?).--Zoupan (talk) 13:16, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hah! I can understand your frustration, but honestly, no. I can imagine there are places where this level of categorization might be useful. Well... maybe not "by year by municipality in the 13th century" - that's really extreme - but relatively close to it. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:55, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Going through all this, don't you think there should be a ban (a guideline) on certain categories?--Zoupan (talk) 17:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- It's not a bad idea. I'm not sure about the best way to do this. Maybe you could propose a naming scheme for "Categories by year" at Commons talk:Categories? I suppose any line we draw would be fairly arbitrary and possibly subject to later conflict, but if sufficiently advertised, it might decrease the chances of this kind of mass deletion (and the terrible waste of effort by the creator involved). - Themightyquill (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- Deleted a lot of it... still so much to go.... - Themightyquill (talk) 23:57, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- In hindsight, I think I got carried away last night and deleted more than was justified by this discussion. I'm going to hold off on further deletions until people have time to respond, and if there is consensus to revert, I'll fix my own mistakes. - Themightyquill (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Deleted a lot of it... still so much to go.... - Themightyquill (talk) 23:57, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Stale discussion. @Themightyquill and Zoupan: I reviewed the situation, and suggestions:
- Category:Built in Motala Municipality in 1251
- Category:1250s architecture in Motala Municipality
- Category:1250s works in Motala Municipality
- Category:Motala Municipality by century (let's keep, but delete Category:Works in Motala Municipality by century and most of its subcategories)
- Category:Motala Municipality by decade (mass-deletion, but let's keep since Category:Motala Municipality in the 1990s and forward)
- Category:13th-century works in Motala Municipality (delete only this parent)
- Category:Works in Motala Municipality by century (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:13th-century architecture in Motala Municipality (let's keep)
- Category:Architecture of Motala Municipality by century (let's keep)
- Category:1250s works in Sweden by municipality (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:1250s works in Sweden by county (and immediate sub-categories)
- Category:Sweden in the 1250s by county (and immediate sub-categories)
--Estopedist1 (talk) 19:28, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Tuvalkin has suggested a merge with Category:Flags on vehicles Themightyquill (talk) 13:35, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Alan (talk) 13:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Merge in which direction? Compare also Category:Vehicles carrying flags of United Kingdom, Category:Vehicles with flags of the United Kingdom. Should a distinction be made between flags painted on the body of a vehicle and vehicles carrying flags? Maybe that's what User:Pava intended. I would merge to Category:Vehicles with flags, because it's the most neutral formulation, including both cases. Cleanup within Category:Vehicles with flags, possibly creating Category:Vehicles with flags by country would be the next logical step. --rimshottalk 09:28, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
- Looks complicated, therefore it must be simple. We need more engagement. I made some changes to Category:Vehicles with flags, in order to separate "vehicles" and "countries". I think it looks better. Let's continue. --E4024 (talk) 07:10, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
- I just added a pic of a <flag of Turkey "on" an automobile> at the Category:Flags on automobiles. Now there are two pics of cars with flags of Turkey there and I can realize the issue better: One is a "real" flag, and the other is a "painting" on the vehicle... --E4024 (talk) 09:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Support That actually makes a lot of sense. One with "cloth" flags, one with flag decals or paint. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- surprisingly Category:Automobile painting is severely under-populated. car body painting/deco is such a key element of modern, everyday artistic life.
- following Category:Paintings by subject, parts of cats concerned in this discussion can be put under Category:Paintings of flags. RZuo (talk) 12:14, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- and when will commons finally move automobiles to cars? so that these ridiculous names Category:Automobile stickers Category:Automobile painting can rest in peace. RZuo (talk) 12:27, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- RZuo You're welcome to bring it up at Commons:Village pump but based on Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/07/Category:Automobiles and Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/02/Category:Valued images of cars, you're in for a fight, and even if you win, you're in for a lot of work to move everything and adjust all the templates. Personally, I don't care. -- Themightyquill (talk) 16:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- and when will commons finally move automobiles to cars? so that these ridiculous names Category:Automobile stickers Category:Automobile painting can rest in peace. RZuo (talk) 12:27, 29 November 2021 (UTC)