Commons:Categories for discussion/2012/01/Revival architectural styles
Revival architectural styles
[edit]Examples:
- Category:Romanesque Revival architecture in Ohio
- Category:Romanesque revival architecture in California
- Category:Gothic Revival architecture in Illinois
- Category:Gothic revival architecture in Alsace
This CFD covers all categories that begin with the strings "Romanesque revival architecture in", "Romanesque Revival architecture in", "Gothic revival architecture in", and "Gothic Revival architecture in". I'd like to see consistent capitalisation: either they'll all be "Romanesque revival architecture in" and "Gothic revival architecture in", or they'll all be "Romanesque Revival architecture in" and "Gothic Revival architecture in". I've not placed the tags on the categories yet, but I've requested that a bot do it, since there are so many such categories. For some reason, capitalisation is extraordinarily inconsistent with these categories: we have many categories for each style that use "revival" and many that use "Revival". I'm somewhat inclined toward "Revival", because we have "Colonial Revival" and "Greek Revival" rather than "Colonial revival" or "Greek revival" (and note that the en:wp articles are w:Gothic Revival architecture and w:Romanesque Revival architecture), but I'd heartily prefer "revival" to the current chaotic situation. Nyttend (talk) 07:00, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Harmonised 21 categories with the spelling of the parent category and the large majority of sub categories as one can see here and here. --Foroa (talk) 07:30, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- I added a list of category names with words "revival architecture" they are mostly consistent with parent category, and after harmonizing that it will be probably good enough. --Jarekt (talk) 14:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Good idea. The more categories that can be harmonised, the better. Nyttend (talk) 18:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- I added a list of category names with words "revival architecture" they are mostly consistent with parent category, and after harmonizing that it will be probably good enough. --Jarekt (talk) 14:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- By the way, note that Foroa has interfered with this CFD by moving several categories while it's under discussion. This is completely inappropriate. Nyttend (talk) 18:04, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should harmonize them to match the parent category, or the most frequently used form. --Jarekt (talk) 18:35, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- We are harmonising all the time, and moved the 2% categories that were not consistent. As you stated: The more categories that can be harmonised, the better. If one wants that {{Us states}} in Category:Romanesque revival architecture in Arkansas work, naming must be consistent.
- By the way, en:Category:Romanesque revival architecture in the United States has been moved only one year ago, so not surprising that there are inconsistencies. --Foroa (talk) 19:06, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- When something is at CFD, wait until it's done. Plain and simple. Nyttend (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should harmonize them to match the parent category, or the most frequently used form. --Jarekt (talk) 18:35, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- English Wikipedia consistently capitalizes Revival for architectural styles. Unless anyone has any strong reason not to do so here, I suggest all the categories in the box above me harmonized with a capital R. Make sense to you, @Nyttend: and @Foroa: ? - Themightyquill (talk) 21:34, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Other than a pair of edits eleven months ago, Foroa hasn't edited since 2013. I agree with consistent capitalisation; normal English usage consistently uses "Revival" for Gothic and Romanesque, as well as for Colonial and Greek, and using "revival" makes us look amateurish. Also, it's normally good to synchronise with en:wp when we have a category with scope identical to theirs: unlike people from other languages' projects, people coming from en:wp know that categories will be in the same language here, so they'll be confused when a category with the same scope has a different kind of name. That's not a reason to overturn an established naming convention, but when we're redoing the convention itself or dealing with isolated examples, we should keep the en:wp name in mind. Finally, I suggest that we not listen too carefully to Foroa's ideas on English usage; he constantly demonstrated non-fluency with English usage, whether national-ties situations (he moved "CAT:Parking garages in the United States" to "CAT:Multi-storey car parks in the United States") or ordinary usage (see the still-open Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/09/Category:Hoover Dam, Colorado River). Nothing wrong with not being fluent in English, but we shouldn't rely on your usage if you aren't fluent. Nyttend (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Great. I think we have consensus then. Can we get a bot to do this? It would be an enormous amount work to do it manually. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:32, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Achim55: I know you did this with commons-delinker for Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/07/Category:Neo-baroque churches, but I think this one involves a significantly larger number of categories. Is that still the easiest way to do it? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:03, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- I requested all of the above from CommonsDelinker but would like to run a search and make sure there aren't any new ones when I get a chance. BMacZero (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- What about the family of "Gothic revival churches" categories? Wieralee (talk) 20:55, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
- Should this apply to any category with "[Era/Culture] revival" in it that refers to architecture or art? I can now start requesting more moves en masse if so. BMacZero (talk) 06:57, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
- I just requested all remaining "Gothic revival" and "Romanesque revival" categories, as far as I know (540 requests). There are the following miscellaneous ones, too:
- Should this apply to any category with "[Era/Culture] revival" in it that refers to architecture or art? I can now start requesting more moves en masse if so. BMacZero (talk) 06:57, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
I went ahead an requested the rest because there isn't any disagreement. All Revival categories have been moved. BMacZero (talk) 01:30, 8 November 2016 (UTC)