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Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: File description cleanup and categorization for files uploaded with Reworkhelper tool. Per this request

Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time run

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute):

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N (the bot already has a bot flag )

Programming language(s): Python

– Ammarpad (talk) 18:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

• Test run here. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

  Seems OK for me, but may be template would be better solution? EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

  Ok, I am not sure. But it seems to me other tool-based uploads identification mostly use categories only, see Category:Files by upload tool. – Ammarpad (talk) 12:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• What is that needed for? --Krd 11:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Krd, I believe consistency and ease of navigating files uploaded with a specific tool. It's easier to find all uploads by a specific tool because of Category:Files by upload tool and the way the tools therein utilize the category. But that's not possible/much more difficult to do if the tool puts its name just in the file description, the way this tool does. – Ammarpad (talk) 17:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

  What is the use case of knowing which tool a file was uploaded with? Is this already fixed in the tools themselves, so that the bot would have to cleanup past issues only? Krd 13:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

  For the first question, I don't know. But clearly some people think it's useful thing to know and that's why we have Category:Files by upload tool with the subcategories therein for over a decade.

  For the second question, my understanding is the tool is no longer in use. So it's a cleanup of past issues. If the tool were to resume operation, it could follow the current practice and add the category itself. – Ammarpad (talk) 17:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

  I came across these when fixing some of Category:Media_missing_infobox_template. Doing this part by bot limits problems users have when using other tools for that, notably https://add-information.toolforge.org/

  Reworkhelper seems no longer in use (the user who created it is no longer active) and the some of the mentions have a link to web.archive. So beyond this bot run, no future ones should be needed.
   ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 12:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

  Even if we already have such categories, I think it's not desirable to create additional mass edits for no reason, if there is no practical use case. Krd 19:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

  cleaning up Category:Media_missing_infobox_template is a practical usecase.
   ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

  I do not understand that use case. --Schlurcher (talk) 09:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

  I think most have forgotten about files lacking {{Information}}. Recently there was an initiative to clean up some more. I did a few to help sort them.

  When fixing some of theses files, you probably noticed that the part Ammarpad proposes to fix helps reduce clutter on these files. Obviously, users who just cherry pick files that are already well formatted, probably wont need this.
   ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 11:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

  I don't see any files lacking Information template in the test run. Please make a small test that includes some.

  I could perhaps agree that the mentioned cleanup could be done when touching files anyway, but even this could also be controversial. Touching the files just to replace text by a mass category that will be of nearly no use, in my opinion should not be approved without specific community consensus. Krd 14:30, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

  Is there anything controversial about these categories we should be aware of?
   ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

• @Ammarpad: Is the scope of this request to add information templates to files which don't have them, as claimed by Enhancing999? If yes, please make a test run which includes such edits. --Krd 04:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

  The bot run should reduce clutter on file description pages in general, including pages that lack {{Information}} [1].

  The purpose is not to add {{Information}} on its own. (This needs to be done in other ways, but is simplified when there is less clutter: just try http://tools.wmflabs.org/add-information/ on any of these).
   ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 08:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Aaaag this request makes my head hurt because I do not understand it fully. So forgive me if this question is stupid. Is the general idea here that it might be easier to mass add {{Information}} on the files if they are all in the same category? Either by a user or a bot? If yes I think it could be relevant to know how the file was uploaded. If not we could perhaps just remove the information about how it was uploaded. --MGA73 (talk) 18:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

  I'd also appreciate clarification by the operator. Krd 14:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

  @Ammarpad:  ? --Krd 04:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)