User talk:TripWire
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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 17:35, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Did you seen the {{Indian navy}} confirmed tag by Racconish in 2015 (when the source was valid)? Please don't revert editions by trusted users. --Amitie 10g (talk) 02:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, I have seen when the source WAS valid, which isny now. No source, means a no, no at wikipedia. And you being a trusted yser should know that. By the way, the Indian Navy website isnt the original copyright holder. This issue has already been discussed at OTRS Noticeboard, but in that case at least the inages were available at a sister website, which isnt the case now. Can you please qoute me the policy which says that once an image which was available at a website is no more present there, the status of copyright and permission stays the same? Till you do that, CSD tag stays. Thanjs. --TripWire (talk) 03:40, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- For that reason exist {{License review}} (used by {{Indian Navy}}). If a License Reviewer used {{License review}}, that means that the source was valid at the moment of the uploading. Also, you should know that the CC license are airrevocable. --Amitie 10g (talk) 12:07, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- The main concern is that the Indian Navy is no more keeping the image at its website, which in fact had given the permission at the first place. How would you justify a source for the image in question in the current scenario? But the more important question is that the original copyright holder (Bangladesh) never gave any permission to Commons. It is as if I upload a copyrighted image on my website and then gave I gave OTRS permission to Commons even though I was not the original copyright holder. Going by this definition, anybody can upload all copyrighted images on their blogs and start giving 'permissions' as if the copyright belonged to them. So the OTRS was invalid at the first place. The pic is covered under FoP Bangladesh not under some CC license. I think this needs to be put up for discussion DRs, only that way we can be certain. Thanks--TripWire (talk) 12:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- What bothers me is that it was you raised a valid question at the OTRS noticeboard regarding OTRS from Indian Navy website which no more is holding the image, but still you are not adhering to it. I think that discussion needs to be un-archived. --TripWire (talk) 12:23, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- If you have strong proof that the Indian Navy does not own the copyright of the photo (rather than if is available or not), you should started a normal DR instead of adding the Speedy tag twice (that is enough to be considered as vandalism, the reason why Taivo fully protected the file); ask to the administrator who protected the file.
- And again, {{License review}} is the way to indicate if the source is/was valid (and the main reason why the files should not be deleted if the source is not longer available, specially if it has been released under a free license; since the CC licenses are irrevocable, trying to revocate it by anyone else than the copyright holder —by relicensing under a different licensing or denying its access— is a violation of the license, therefore, copyvio). --Amitie 10g (talk) 12:46, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- What bothers me is that it was you raised a valid question at the OTRS noticeboard regarding OTRS from Indian Navy website which no more is holding the image, but still you are not adhering to it. I think that discussion needs to be un-archived. --TripWire (talk) 12:23, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- The main concern is that the Indian Navy is no more keeping the image at its website, which in fact had given the permission at the first place. How would you justify a source for the image in question in the current scenario? But the more important question is that the original copyright holder (Bangladesh) never gave any permission to Commons. It is as if I upload a copyrighted image on my website and then gave I gave OTRS permission to Commons even though I was not the original copyright holder. Going by this definition, anybody can upload all copyrighted images on their blogs and start giving 'permissions' as if the copyright belonged to them. So the OTRS was invalid at the first place. The pic is covered under FoP Bangladesh not under some CC license. I think this needs to be put up for discussion DRs, only that way we can be certain. Thanks--TripWire (talk) 12:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- For that reason exist {{License review}} (used by {{Indian Navy}}). If a License Reviewer used {{License review}}, that means that the source was valid at the moment of the uploading. Also, you should know that the CC license are airrevocable. --Amitie 10g (talk) 12:07, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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