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@Jeff G.: This user was a trusted user and has donated many materials over the years, is blanking his user page really necessary? Such templates can be placed on top of user pages without removing all the content (even if it obviously doesn't apply anymore due to their global lock). Blanking feels like gravedancing while simply adding a template would seem less antagonistic towards him. He still gave years of his life to this website, we shouldn't "unperson" him.

FYI, I will archive the sections above here to prevent others from simply blanking it, as I believe archiving is better than blanking. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. In my case, anyone would think I had contributed nothing at all to en:WP in my time there. An undeserved slap in the face. Gravedancing is how I feel too. Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Donald Trung and Rodhullandemu: None of it was true anymore.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 10:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I have no idea what that means. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:44, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rodhullandemu: The information here about status on WMF websites was no longer true at the time of blanking.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 10:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So delete the bits that don't apply, but we should never, ever, make people into non-persons. First sentence of en:WP:5P4. Rodhullandemu (talk) 11:07, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rodhullandemu: Ok, I did that with with "former" x3, etc.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:16, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fyi, about user talk pages of global banned users, zh:User_talk:JEissfeldt_(WMF)#Regarding user talk pages of globally banned user may be useful on handling. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:58, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse the late reply as I'm on vacation, anyhow, I remember a couple of years ago I raised the concern of page blanking in the village pump and I remember very few people actually supporting it, going over a number of English-language Wikipedia pages like user "Koavf" and user "Fæ" they appear unblanked despite both users being indefinitely blocked while other users in the exact same situation have their user pages blanked, it just seems to random and honestly kind of petty. Francophone Wikimedia websites also blank user talk pages and the WMFOffice blanks user pages even on Wikimedia websites where that never happens.

My issue with user page blanking is that it is literally considered vandalism if done in any other situation and to any non-blocked person. These people comment on talk and discussion and at every upload log of their works. Some users have "Please attribute me as X" on their user pages, some have "If you want to contact me go to X" (like Sasha here) which might be relevant when wanting to ask them for some of their actions on-wiki like where they got certain sources from or something. I genuinely don't see any benefit to the blanking (and sometimes deleting) of indefinitely blocked users. If an indefinite block is preventative and meant to indicate that a user should be able to come back if they can convince an admin if the issues that lead to their block won't be repeated, then why blank their pages? WMF bans are different sure, but from what I can tell the WMF Office is simply following practice not based on any policies, a tag on top of a user page conveys the same information as a blanked user page with the same tag, I just don't see the added value of "unpersoning" people that dedicated their free time to help improve these websites and had some issues why they are no longer able to. In fact, the English-language Wikipedia even has a whole essay to justify this which doesn't even list a single policy that mandates it, meaning that the practice likely started as a bad faith revenge edit but became commonplace afterwards and is usually done randomly, I don't see why user A should have their page blanked and not user B, it is all random and tags can be placed on top of pages without blanking the rest. This is what I usually do with tagging socks, even if the user constantly tells me to go f#@k my mother because I don't believe that I should reimburse pettiness with prettiness, but this is a conversation for another venue. I just don't see why a user that as far as I can tell has never harmed the Wikimedia Commons should be unpersoned here, disruptive edits can be undone, but unpersoning is a psychological attack designed to cause distress and resentment. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:13, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty much agree. Blanking is just another example of the lack of humanity in the Wikimedia world. It tells people, whatever the level of their contributions, "you are worthless, a non-person". @Jimbo Wales: has gone on about this a lot, but doesn't seem too interested in actually making any of it fit his model. Disappointing. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:50, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rodhullandemu: But why you also removed {{WMF-legal banned user}} here? Can't this be also a tool to avoid unnecessary massmessage pushing? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There must be other templates or “magic words” just for that. Duplicating the ban template makes the user appear twice in the relevant category.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 03:03, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Odysseus1479: We can update categorization methods of this template to be en-wiki like, so that "makes the user appear twice in the relevant category" won't be happened again. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway @Donald Trung: why this user "was a trusted user"? Trusted by yourself (:P)? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:09, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They were a VTRS member and I've seen them many times around performing good acts. They also had some advanced rights. I can't say that I've ever interacted with them on-wiki and if I have I can't remember it. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would say that they were polluting the VRT system, they made several unjust cases that really should have benefits on appealing cases-by-cases. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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А таке можливо?

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Вітання! А таке можливо, щоб дозвіл на файл був на ґуґль-диску без збереження VTR Вікісховища? --Микола Василечко (talk) 17:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Наталья Залозная. Побег 1. 2016, 80х60, акрил, тушь, холст.jpg

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File:Наталья Залозная. Побег 2. 2016, 80х100, акрил, тушь, холст.jpg

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File:Наталья Залозная. Побег 7, 2016, 120х170, акрил, холст.jpg

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I Ryan Ka (talk) 11:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Наталья Залозная. Упражнение №368. 2015. 110х130, акрил, холст.jpg

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I Ryan Ka (talk) 11:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Наталья Залозная. Упражнение №94. 2015, 130x180. акрил, холст.jpg

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I Ryan Ka (talk) 11:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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