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File tagging File:Queen Elizabeth II visit to Sudan in February 1965.jpg

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— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

@Diannaa chech the license .. I do not think the tag is appropriate FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:22, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
The source website has marked the image as "Copyright © Sudanese Association of Pediatricians." — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:27, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
@Diannaa .. They can tag it as much as they want, Sudanese Association of Pediatricians did not even exist in 1965, it was created in 1977 FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:31, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
That is the date of first issue of the Sudanese Journal of Paediatrics, which proves nothing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:02, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
@Diannaa how? the event is in 1965, a state visit, am sure you can see that it has nothing to do with the Sudanese Association of Pediatricians. similar images can be found here and here and here and here and here amd here andhere and here .. it does not blong to Sudanese Association of Pediatricians it belongs to the state. The photo in question was uploaded by the auuthor, Mustafa Salih, it does not make him the owner
Anway, as per the licence, It was first published in Sudan before 18 December 1996 as the picture was taken in 1965 I think it is a far game = public FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
@Diannaa your tag indicate you may click on "Challenge speedy deletion" below the tag if you wish to provide an argument why evidence of permission is not necessary in this case which I cannot find. I do not want the image to be deleted because I was not able to convince one person especially that the existence of Sudanese Association of Pediatricians succeed this picture/state visit, and I am sure Sudanese Association of Pediatricians (SAP) is just slapping unsubstantiated claims of copy right.
Anyway, as there is little online about when SAP was founded, here is my set of evidence:
1. Sudanese Journal of Paediatrics is the journal of the Sudanese Association of Pediatricians which started publishing in 1977, see [1]
2. The 1st president of the Sudanese Association of Pediatricians is Professor Mahmoud Mohamed Hassan (unknown when) but he was the first Sudanese doctor to obtain a post graduate MD from University of Khartoum in 1965. I am sure you need more than 1 post graduate MD to start a journal. see [2]
3. Going back to the publication where the image was published, figure no. 1 is from 1934 and SAP also slapped their claim of copyright, see [3]. Again in 1934, Pedicatrity as a discipline did not even exist in Sudan. See [4]
4. free version of similar images of the event exist and it attributed to John Loengard, see [5]
5. see
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I hope this clarify that SAP copyright claim is fraudulent and should be dismissed FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:34, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Please visit the file talk page and add your comments there. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:21, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

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Adeletron 3030 (talk) 18:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@Adeletron 3030 sorry did not notice the AP at the image corner. Although in the image description it was not included. Lesson learnt .. FuzzyMagma (talk) 22:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


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Adeletron 3030 (talk) 18:59, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@Adeletron 3030 did I get the permission wrong, according to this it sgould be OK. https://www.amnesty.org/en/about-us/permissions/ FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
@Túrelio id I get the permission wrong, according to this it should be OK. https://www.amnesty.org/en/about-us/permissions/ .. FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:11, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Non-commercial and non-derivative licenses are not allowed on Commons. Works uploaded to Commons cannot have restrictions on use or modification. Adeletron 3030 (talk) 14:46, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
@Adeletron 3030 I want to upload this image from the United States National Library of Medicine but I am not really sure about the licence FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
The photographer is Paul Almasy, who died in 2003, and it looks like the photograph was taken and published in France. That likely means it's protected by copyrighted until 2073 according to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/France, and cannot be uploaded to Commons until then. But feel free to consult other users — I could be wrong. Adeletron 3030 (talk) 14:12, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
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