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Dúvida
Olá, queria saber se essa imagem tem alguma chance de se enquadrar na regra de limiar de originalidade para eu carregá-la aqui. Sds. Pedrohoneto (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Pedrohoneto: Olá, essa imagem que está no link não pode ser carregada aqui por ser em 3D. No entanto, uma versão bidimensional da mesma imagem não teria qualquer problema, uma vez que se trata somente de texto. Abraço, -- Darwin Ahoy! 11:01, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi DarwIn! The copyright notice in the aforementioned discussion should be "© 1996 - 2017. Todos direitos reservados..." instead of "© 1996 - 2012. Todos direitos reservados...". Best regards. Alan Moraes (talk) 23:04, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Alan Moraes: I don't know how that happened, as I copypasted that sentence from the website, but thank you for the warning, it's now corrected.-- Darwin Ahoy! 23:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, very weird indeed... Alan Moraes (talk) 23:44, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
@Alan Moraes: About what you wrote in the DR discussion, I will not enter in the argument over if the PDF is or isn't a copyvio under the Brazilian law. I would like to make it clear that there is not any doubt that it is a copyvio here in Commons, since obviously unfree content was being licensed under cc-by-sa-4.0. However, I fully agree with you that it doesn't necessary imply that it is a copyvio under Brazilian law. that's indeed a separate discussion.-- Darwin Ahoy! 15:57, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- @DarwIn: Roger that. Alan Moraes (talk) 16:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Darwin, when you said "there is not any doubt that it is a copyvio here in Commons", you meant "there is not any doubt that it cannot be freely licensed here in Commons because of usage of copyrighted materials even if they are fair use", didn't you? Alan Moraes (talk) 18:57, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Alan Moraes: Yes, something like that. Even if they are allowed for non-commercial purposes, they can't be accepted here unless specifically released under a free license by the copyright owner, generally via OTRS.-- Darwin Ahoy! 19:26, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. Have a nive day! Alan Moraes (talk) 19:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Alan Moraes: Yes, something like that. Even if they are allowed for non-commercial purposes, they can't be accepted here unless specifically released under a free license by the copyright owner, generally via OTRS.-- Darwin Ahoy! 19:26, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Rhinella schneideri
Olá DarwIn, poderia me fazer um favor? A categoria Rhinella schneideri conta com várias imagens com o nome científico antigo no título (Bufo paracnemis e Bufo schneideri). Como são muitas imagens, poderia substituir o nome do título pelo certo (Rhinella schneideri)? Mr. Fulano (talk) 23:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Olá Mr. Fulano. Se essas designações não estão incorrectas, mas são simplesmente sinónimos da designação corrente, as imagens não precisam (nem devem) ser movidas. Se percebi mal, e essas designações são realmente actualmente incorrectas, diga-me, para proceder às movimentações.-- Darwin Ahoy! 20:10, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- Na verdade, essas designações já foram correctas, mas que atualmente foram analisadas e após estudos foi possível verificar que estão incorretas. Então o correcto seria usar o nome actual, para encontrar as imagens mais facilmente e porque às vezes (não é esse caso) o nome antigo corresponde a outra espécie. E ainda tem o caso (que esse se enquadra) de que o nome antigo está em outro género, o que estaria errado, pois foram realocadas. É uma pena que tem muitas imagens aqui no Commons no mesmo estado. Mr. Fulano (talk) 20:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- P.S:Poderia apagar esse redirecionamento de categoria, que se trata do mesmo problema para eu mover a categoria? Mr. Fulano (talk) 20:27, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Já apaguei o redireccionamento. Em relação à Rhinella schneideri, realmente estou na dúvida. Tenho visto muitos nomes científicos a andarem de cá para lá em muitas situações, e a serem usados vários sinónimos supostamente desactualizados em sites e papers de excelente reputação. Como não há perigo de se confundir com outra espécie (a questão do género não é muito relevante aqui), não sei se realmente devem ser movidos os títulos. Acho que será melhor eu colocar a questão no Village Pump, a ver qual e a opinião da comunidade sobre isso. No caso da categoria, isso é pacífico, deve estar sempre na designação mais actual.-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:47, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Olá DarwIn, tudo bem? Eu estou sem entender porque apagaram o ficheiro acima, aja vista que ele está licenciado em ccby-3.0, sem derivação, como pode ser visto no rodapé, onde diz que todo conteúdo deste site está publicado sob a licença 3.0, na fonte de origem. Poderia, por gentileza me ajudar a entender? Boas. Alessandro Sil (talk) 22:37, 28 Janeiro 2017 (UTC-3)
- @Alessandro Sil: Olá, tudo bem. :) A eliminação foi correcta, uma vez que o conteúdo está licenciado em CC-BY-ND (proibição de obras derivadas), que não é considerada uma licença suficientemente livre aqui pelo Commons. Saudações, -- Darwin Ahoy! 19:33, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Alessandro Sil: Há algo de estranho com o seu fuso horário ou timestamp, essa mensagem que me enviou é desta madrugada, mas a hora diz 22.30 de hoje, que ainda nem é? -- Darwin Ahoy! 19:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- Olá, meu querido Darwin, Jcb, já me explicou o motivo, inclusive coloquei uma outra imagem que eu mesmo carreguei para eliminação, pois está sob esta mesma licença. Obrigado pela ateção. Com respeito ao horário creio que seja porque coloquei UTC-3, o que na Wikipédia funciona corretamente, mas parece que aqui é feita o cálculo para apenas UTC.Alessandro Sil (talk) 19:49, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
falando em imagens
seria possível restaurar essa imagem File:WBB BOX 320 CP - Via.JPG, esta foto é da mesma serie desta File:WBB_BOX_320_CP.JPG, tem mais de 70 anos... e o fotografo é desconhecido, possivelmente um funcionário da CPEF. Ano passado eliminaram dezenas de fotos carregadas com autorização enviada, mas que não tinham isso processadas.Meloaraujo (talk) 00:58, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- On 22 February the wikipedia.org portal did not work for an hour. This was because of a problem with a JavaScript file. [1]
Changes this week
- You will be able to use
<chem>
to write chemical formulas in the visual editor. Previously this only worked in the wikitext editor. [2] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 March. It will be on all wikis from 2 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can soon upload 3D files to Commons. The file formats are AMF and STL. The plan is for this to work later this week but it could be later. [3]
- The name "Wikipedia" will be more obvious at the top of the page when you read Wikipedia in the mobile view. This is because many readers don't realize they are on Wikipedia. [4][5]
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19:55, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
O que é isso?
Olá DarwIn, poderia me explicar o que é essa página? Várias imagens que eu carreguei estão aparecendo lá, e eu não se isso é bom ou ruim. Mr. Fulano (talk) 23:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Mr. Fulano É bom, é um prémio: Commons:Open Access File of the Day. Parece que alguém as nomeou, e você ganhou. :) -- Darwin Ahoy! 23:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nossa, então várias imagens que eu carreguei foram selecionadas? Que bom! Mr. Fulano (talk) 23:50, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Elas receberam esse galardão porque é conteúdo com licença livre (não expirada) e grande utilização (pelo menos três projectos diferentes). É muito bom, sim. :)-- Darwin Ahoy! 00:08, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Então vou carregar mais imagens! Mr. Fulano (talk) 00:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Elas receberam esse galardão porque é conteúdo com licença livre (não expirada) e grande utilização (pelo menos três projectos diferentes). É muito bom, sim. :)-- Darwin Ahoy! 00:08, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nossa, então várias imagens que eu carreguei foram selecionadas? Que bom! Mr. Fulano (talk) 23:50, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now search on English, French, Hebrew and Greek wikis and find words even if you forget the diacritics. It also works if you use diacritics in your search but the wiki doesn't. [6]
- When you use the mobile view and click on a link to an article in another language you will see that article in the mobile view. Previously it changed to the desktop view. [7]
Problems
- Some watchlist gadgets didn't work for a period of time last week. This has now been fixed. [8]
- Admins who click on "mass delete" on a user's Special:Contributions will be taken directly to a list pages created by that user. It has worked like this before, but not lately. [9]
Changes this week
- The way you switch between wikitext and the visual editors in the desktop view has changed. It is now a drop-down menu. This is the same as in the mobile view. [10]
- The "flag the edit in the abuse log" checkbox will be removed from the abuse filter interface. This is because the edits are always flagged in the abuse log. [11]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Clarification
- The 2017/09 issue of Tech News mentioned 3D file formats you can soon upload to Commons. The AMF format will be available later.
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23:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
- You will be able to show references from
<references />
tags in more than one column on your wiki. This is the list of footnotes for the sources in the article. How many columns you see will depend on how big your screen is. On some wikis, some templates already do this. Templates that use<references />
tags will need to be updated, and then later the change can happen for all reference lists. [12][13] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some old web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis in the future. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [14]
- CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. [15][16]
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15:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Save page
button now saysPublish page
orPublish changes
on the Wikimedia wikis except for Wikipedias and Wikinewses. This change will come to Wikipedias later. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately.Publish page
is when you save a new page andPublish changes
when you edit an existing page. [17] - DMOZ no longer works. Templates that use DMOZ can be redirected to archive.org or another mirror. DMOZ has been removed from the RelatedSites extension on Wikivoyage. [18]
- You can see monthly page views when you click on
Page information
in the sidebar. Developers can also get monthly page views through the API. [19] - The Linter extension is now on smaller Wikimedia wikis. It helps editors find some wikitext errors so they can be fixed. It will come to other Wikimedia wikis later. The extension will be able to find more errors later. [20]
- The MediaWiki-Vagrant portable development environment has been updated to use Debian Jessie. This means local development and testing will be more like on the majority of Wikimedia production servers. [21]
Problems
- On 15 March some interwiki links to other languages were not correctly sorted. This has been fixed. If you still see pages where the interwiki links are not sorted as they should be, they should be fixed automatically with time or you can edit the page and save it without changing anything. If this doesn't work, please report it. [22]
Changes this week
- When you edit with the visual editor, you will be able to switch the direction you write in from right-to-left to left-to-right as you are editing. This is especially important for editors who edit in languages that write from right to left. You can do this with a tool in the editing menu. You can also use the keyboard shortcut
Ctrl
+Shift
+X
on PCs orCmd
+Shift
+X
on Macs. [23] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Bloqueio IP
Boa Tarde
Gostaria de saber o motivo do bloqueio e pedir o desbloqueio. Tudo aconteceu em uma edição do Campeonato Gaúcho de Futebol, pois notei em um quadro sobre a participação dos clubes no Campeonato Brasileiro, que não constava a participação de um time da minha cidade, o São Gabriel FC, já extinto, na Série C do Brasileiro, foi em 2002. Ao editar, tentei deixar como os outros clubes e tentei colocar uma bandeirinha da cidade ao lado do nome. Tentei copiar de outra página da wiki, como não deu acabei copiando daqui.....bom não sei o que houve de errado, mas fui bloqueado. Como desde 2004 faço raras mais importantes edições sempre relacionadas a futebol local, geralmente daqui, não sei o motivo do bloqueio. O aviso fala em proxy, não sei o que pode ter acontecido. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 187.121.178.54 (talk) 20:05, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- @187.121.178.54: Olá. Desbloqueei temporariamente, e solicitei uma verificação mais aprofundada para saber se é mesmo proxy ou não, caso não seja, não voltará a ser bloqueado por esse motivo. Saudações, -- Darwin Ahoy! 21:28, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you edit with the visual editor, you can see a visual diff as well as a wikitext diff when you review your changes. [24]
Problems
- Special:AllPages was disabled for two days due to some performance issues. It is back, but the filter for redirects is gone as the cause of the performance problem. It still needs to be fixed. [25][26]
Changes this week
- New filters for Recent changes will be released on Portuguese and Polish Wikipedias and MediaWikiwiki on March 28. Other wikis will get it progressively. The new filters include filtering, highlighting and, on certain wikis, user intent prediction.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from March 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from March 29. It will be on all wikis from March 30 (calendar).
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14:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Well, that was disappointing. Meh, vou carregar sob fair-use mesmo. Épico (talk)/(contribs) 15:31, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Épico: Que tristeza! De facto... Mas ainda pode fazer outra coisa: Após o carregamento pela URC, pergunte na Esplanada das dúvidas de copyright se o logotipo é simples o suficiente para ser transferido para o Commons. Dependendo do resultado, eu posso restaurar a imagem aqui. Saudações, -- Darwin Ahoy! 21:23, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Save page
button now saysPublish page
orPublish changes
on most Wikipedias. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately.Publish page
is when you save a new page andPublish changes
when you edit an existing page. [27] - The tracking category Category:Pages with template loops is now added when a template loop is found. A template loop is for example when a template tries to use a second template that uses the first template. [28]
- English Wikipedia now has cookie blocks. It will come to more wikis in the future. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [29]
Problems
- Wikidata descriptions, aliases and labels that used some characters could not be saved. This has now been fixed. [30]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next office hour with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on 5 April at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Dutch, Russian, Turkish, Czech and Hebrew Wikipedia on 11 April. The new filters include filtering, highlighting and user intent prediction. User intent prediction means the filter tries to help editors determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [31]
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17:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Favor tomar uma providência
Viu o que aconteceu na pt-wiki? O Usuário :Aspargos me bloqueou por não ad-imitir o erro que fez em colocar um aviso de erro na minha pdu quando em reverti um erro de outro ip em guerra do contestado, não admitiu, não soube dialogar e ainda me bloqueou. Ele tem que perder o direito de bloquear, pois no mínimo, tinha que pedir a opinião de outro editor, mas bloqueou direto ele mesmo. Ele tem a ferra,menta para bloquear somente em violação de vandalismo, eu não cometi vandalismo, pelo contrário, tirei vandalismo 189.4.22.113 18:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- @189.4.22.113: Olá, só vi a sua mensagem agora, mas já vi que o Hume42 resolveu o seu problema. Saudações, -- Darwin Ahoy! 01:10, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Tidy is going to be replaced with an HTML5 parsing algorithm. Bad HTML in wikitext would cause problems on a number of wikis. There is now a ParserMigration extension on all wikis that you can use to help clean this up. You can read more about how you can use it. [32]
Changes this week
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [33]
- New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Russian, Turkish and French Wikipedia on 11 April. The schedule has been changed to fix the user intent prediction filters for some wikis. User intent prediction means the filter tries to make it easier for editors to determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [34]
- The list of special characters in the wikitext editor and the visual editor will now have a group of Canadian Aboriginal characters. [35]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
- RevisionSlider will change how you move between revisions. This will be available on the test wiki from 11 April. It will come to other wikis later if users like the change. You can test it and give feedback.
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18:34, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can add
?safemode=1
to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature?safemode=1
. This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them. [36] - You can now see a list of all autoblocks on Special:AutoblockList. [37]
- The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from
[[File:Wiki.png]]
. If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way. [38]
Problems
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.
Changes this week
- There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- stats.wikimedia.org will be replaced. You can see the new prototype. You can leave feedback on this change.
- Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback. [39]
- From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. [40][41]
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19:32, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Olavo de Carvalho, O Jardim das Aflições.
Achei sua nomeação para speedy deletion muito inadequada. Seu pedido já foi transformado em eliminação por consenso, e sugiro que você especifique qual o problema que percebeu na licensa, pois já foi debatido e já se decidiu por manter a imagem. De qualquer forma, sempre há a possibilidade de cancelar o pedido. Holy Goo (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Holy Goo: É uma questão técnica, não é algo que se possa "discutir". Mas não vejo problema com uma DR, explicarei a coisa lá. Saudações, -- Darwin Ahoy! 17:31, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The content translation tool works again. It was turned off because of a database problem. [42]
- Scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. This is the same thing as Tech News wrote about in issue 2017/16. You need to add
mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util' )
block for your scripts also, or addmediawiki.util
dependency in gadget ResourceLoader section in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. [43][44]
Problems
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
Changes this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [45]
- The
Publish changes
,Show preview
andShow changes
buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding&ooui=1
to the URL. [46]
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19:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Some users have a problem with the watchlist. Some changes in categories make the watchlist a blank page. The developers are working on this. Until this is fixed you can try some things that have helped other editors if you have this problem. You can turn on
Hide categorization of pages
in your watchlist preferences. You can turn offExpand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent
in your watchlist preferences. You can remove problematic categories from Special:EditWatchlist/raw. [47] - There was a problem with the visual editor for several days. You could not save edits that triggered a CAPTCHA. This would for example be when a new user added external links in references. This was fixed on 2 May. [48]
Changes this week
- When you edit you can switch between the visual editor and the wikitext editor. This works if the wiki you edit has the visual editor. The menu will now say
Visual editing
andSource editing
instead ofSwitch to visual editing
andSwitch to code editing
. This is because it was confusing when the menu said you could switch to the editor you were already using. [49] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You will be able to get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. This will come to Wikivoyage on 9 May. If there are no problems it will come to most Wikipedias on 30 May. It will come to other projects and English, French and German Wikipedia later in the summer. It will be opt-in for existing users and opt-out for new users. [50][51]
- Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. If
-{
is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use-<nowiki/>{
for transclusions and%2D{
in web addresses. A transclusion could for example be when you use-{
in a template:{{1x| sad :-{ face }}
. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. [52][53]
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02:24, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use ISBNs to automatically generate citations in the visual editor. This works on wikis that have enabled Citoid. [54]
- The Two Column Edit Conflict View is available as a beta feature on all wikis. It is a new interface for the edit conflict resolution page. [55]
Problems
- The
mediawiki.util
library does not load automatically any more. Your Special:MyPage/common.js may use it. If you have technical problems that started a couple of weeks ago you can try addingmw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util' ).done(function(){
as the first line in the file and});
as a last one. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/18 issue. [56]
Changes this week
- The RevisionSlider extension will be a default feature on all wikis. RevisionSlider is an easier way to move between changes in the page history. It has been a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia and a beta feature on all wikis. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences. [57]
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- Administrators will soon be able to search through deleted pages. [58][59]
- Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. Tech News wrote about this last week. If
-{
is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use-<nowiki/>{
for transclusions and%2D{
in web addresses. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. You can now see the full list of wikis with this problem and help fix them to avoid that things break later this month. You might find false positives. You can read more about what to fix. [60][61]
Older unreported changes
- Your Meta user page is shown on all wikis where you don't have a local user page. You can now add the magic word
__NOGLOBAL__
to your Meta user page to stop this. [62][63]
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21:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
- There will be a
<div>
tag around HTML from the MediaWiki wikitext parser. Gadgets with code that does not follow recommendations could have problems with this. You can report new problems you think are related to this. [64]
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22:02, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Last week’s MediaWiki version was rolled back from some wikis because of a problem. This means planned changes did not happen. [65]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You will be able to control who can notify you on the Wikimedia wikis. You will have a user blacklist. When you add a user to the blacklist you will not get a notification when they mention you. You can test this on Beta Wikipedia. You can read more and give feedback on Meta. [66]
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12:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Category:Buildings_listed_as_of_Municipal_Interest_by_the_Lisbon_City_Council has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:48, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can see new files on Special:NewFiles. You can now pick which dates you want to see files from. [67]
- When you read Wikipedia on a mobile device the first paragraph now comes before the infobox. [68]
- You can now remove navigation elements from your results when you search. This could for example be part of an infobox that is only there to help you find the previous or next article. [69]
- New users on Wikivoyages and Wikipedias (except French, English and German) now get a notification when a page they created is connected to Wikidata. Other wikis will get it 13 June. [70]
Problems
- The MediaWiki version from two weeks ago was rolled back. It was fixed late last week. Changes that were planned to go out last week did not happen. [71]
Changes this week
- Wikimedia wikis can show fewer links to articles in other languages. This is to make it easier to find the languages likely to be useful to the reader or editor. Everyone can still click to see the full list. Logged-in users who use the compact language links will see languages they have in their Babel box on their user page in the first, shorter list. You can turn the compact language list off or on in your preferences. [72]
- You can choose what dates to look at when you look at a user's contributions. [73]
- When you click on your watchlist in the mobile view you get a list of all pages in the watchlist instead of the latest changes to them. Logged-in users with at least ten edits will now get the latest changes instead. [74]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
- String comparisons in Scribunto modules are now always done case-insensitively by byte order. Before they were sometimes in a case-sensitive US-English collation order. This could break some modules. [75]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The 2006 wikitext editor will be removed the week of 27 June. This is the old toolbar with small square blue buttons. You can see a picture of it. 0.03% of active Wikimedia editors use this old tool. They will not see a toolbar at all. [76][77]
- Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron already works on German Wikipedia. It will be on English Wikipedia later this week so you can test it there too. [78]
- The Architecture Committee will change and get a new name. You can read and comment on the draft that describes the new committee.
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19:04, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
"File:Spero Morato Photograph.jpg"
Caro Darwwinius,
Eu enviei para o email permissions-commons@wikimedia.org no dia 05/06/2017, um e-mail enviado pelo Spero Morato para mim, assinando a licença Commons. Na licençça ele afirma que ele é o dono da fotografia, bem como o retratado nela e me autoriza a usar no artigo "Spero Penha Morato" que estou escrevendo.
No mesmo dia, eu recebi a resposta enviada Paulo Santos Perneta, dizendo que a licença estava correta. Em um segundo e-mail ele coloca que havia uma dúvida quanto a propriedade, uma vez que ele era o retratado. Eu, então, o informei que o texto que consta na licença estava correto. O Dr Spero Morato é o autor da foto (selfie) e retratado nela.
Espero que tudo esteja esclarecido, e que a imagem seja liberada para uso.
att.,
Nelia Leite
abaixo a cópia do e-mail.
Dear Sir,
Please find bellow, the e-mail sent, by Dr. Spero Penha Morato, with permission to use in the Wikipedia, his media and image, referred to “Spero Morato Photograph.jpg” downloaded by me. The bibliographic article about Dr Spero Penha Morato, already available in my Page Test, is also authorized.
Nelia Leite
nefe
Enviado do Email para Windows 10
De: spero
Enviado:segunda-feira, 5 de junho de 2017 17:19 Para: Nelia Leite Assunto: licence
Dear Nelia Leite
I hereby affirm that I, Spero Penha Morato, the creator and/or sole owner and the person in the media of the exclusive copyright of both the work depicted and the media as shown here: Spero Penha Morato Photograph.jpeg in the attached image/text and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that work.
I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the following free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International
I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work, even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
I am aware that the copyright holder always retains ownership of the copyright as well as the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by the copyright holder.
I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.
Spero Penha Morato
June 5, 2017
nefe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelia Leite (talk • contribs) 16:06, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
File:St Andrews Church, Thringstone 1908.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Jcb (talk) 22:05, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some wikis have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. When you write an edit summary there you can now see how many bytes you have left before the summary is too long. [79]
- When you search on Wikipedia you can now find pages on other Wikimedia projects that could be relevant. You see them next to the search results. [80]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 June. It will be on all wikis from 15 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You will soon be able to get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account. You can test this on the test wiki. This will only work if they fail to log in to your account. [81]
- Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron now works on all Wikimedia projects. [82]
- Administrators can soon search for deleted page titles and find results that are similar to what they searched for. Today the search only finds pages that are exactly the same as what you search for. This is to make it easier to find pages when you don't know the exact title. Administrators on Arabic, Catalan, English, Persian, German, Italian, Polish, and Russian Wikipedia and on mediawiki.org can test this by adding
&fuzzy=1
to the end of the web address when looking at Special:Undelete. [83][84]
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15:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
Changes this week
irc.wikimedia.org
has to be rebooted. This will probably happen on 21 June. It may be postponed. Some tools use this to get the recent changes feed. They will not work when it is down. [86]-
Special:PageData
will be an entry point for machine-readable page data. [87] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 June. It will be on all wikis from 22 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. You can now see how the TemplateStyles extension works on Beta Labs.
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15:44, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Dalatias licha drying in Câmara de Lobos has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
E4024 (talk) 13:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I object strenuously to your taking this image out of the OTRS queue ahead of others who are waiting patiently. This user has uploaded the image three times after being warned. It is currently under discussion at Commons:Undeletion requests for scope issues. Your restoring it out of process simply rewards bad behavior. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:50, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Having now read the e-mail, I also fail to understand why you grant special favors to someone who characterizes me, Hedwig, and Mattbuck as "online bullies" when we are simply following policy in the case of a repeated rule-breaker. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:56, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Jameslwoodward: Hi! I was not aware of that, I've just seen the OTRS message which seem to come from the legitimate copyright holder, and
yourHedwig's eliminations stating that it was being deleted for copyvio reasons, so I restored it. Would you like me to delete it again? Or you can do it yourself, if you prefer. As for the insulting language, as it was in private, I didn't gave any special meaning to it, basically I've just ignored it and sent the boilerplate. Greets,-- Darwin Ahoy! 12:59, 25 June 2017 (UTC) - @Jameslwoodward: BTW, I didn't took it ahead of anything on purpose, I just work those queues from the most recent messages to the oldest (that's my system). I assumed the last elimination (yours) was also due to copyvio reasons as the others, but I understand there's something more to it, after your explanation - so I deleted the file again, at least until that issue is resolved. Cheers,-- Darwin Ahoy! 13:24, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
- OK, understood. However, I think that "I just work those queues from the most recent messages to the oldest (that's my system)" is backwards. People who get lucky enough to get you get very quick handling while most others must wait weeks. I strongly suggest you reverse your system and handle the oldest tickets first.
- Thanks for deleting it again -- I would have been uncomfortable doing that under the circumstances. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:32, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Jameslwoodward: Yes, I know it doesn't seem the most logical system. However, recent OTRS cases are much easier and quicker to resolve than the older ones, as the sender is generally around, the file has not been deleted yet, and a number of other reasons. If those ones are finished before they age, they never become a problem much more difficult to resolve. I find this system much more practical and effective, despite not privileging the older tickets in the queue. I still go to the older ones, however, once those more recent ones are resolved.-- Darwin Ahoy! 13:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
- You make a good case for your method. I don't work the OTRS queue regularly since I think my experience is more useful dealing with issues in DRs and UnDRs, but I know that I can work very fast through the most recent DR log while having to take much more time on the oldest DR logs. I might suggest a compromise -- for those where the image has a DR but has not been deleted, go ahead and prevent the deletion -- that saves all of us time, but for those that have already been deleted, then let them go until they reach the beginning of the queue. But, anyway, do what you think best and thanks for your efforts at a largely invisible and thankless task. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:56, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Jameslwoodward: Yes, I know it doesn't seem the most logical system. However, recent OTRS cases are much easier and quicker to resolve than the older ones, as the sender is generally around, the file has not been deleted yet, and a number of other reasons. If those ones are finished before they age, they never become a problem much more difficult to resolve. I find this system much more practical and effective, despite not privileging the older tickets in the queue. I still go to the older ones, however, once those more recent ones are resolved.-- Darwin Ahoy! 13:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
@Jameslwoodward: Indeed, that compromise, that's generally what I try to follow as well. This case was an exception on that - I should have suspected that something was not exactly quite right, after seeing the blunt language on the mail, and such seasoned admins as you and Hedwig deleting that file in sequence. Coarse language and rude behavior is not uncommon there, as people often feel distressed for having their files removed when they believe there's not any problem with them, but 3 eliminations in a row just after it was uploaded should have been a red herring indeed. I was ingenuous assuming that it was merely an uncontroversial case of copyvio which could be quickly resolved - but well - living and learning, next time I'll be wiser. Thanks for warning me. I'll inform them to resolve the scope problem here before the file can be restored, and to refrain from using insulting language as well.-- Darwin Ahoy! 14:59, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The <inputbox> has a new
searchfilter
parameter. You can add values likesearchfilter=insource:foo
. It will add that to the user's search query. [88]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 June. It will be on all wikis from 29 June (calendar).
- Users will be able to choose whether they want to see Wikidata changes in enhanced watchlist/recent changes. Previously, this was disabled for everyone. [89]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next WMF Language team office hour, an open session to talk about Wikimedia Language projects. The meeting will be on 27 June at 13:00 UTC. [90]
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15:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
File:Simon James Philby Photo 1.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
- FlightTime (open channel) 13:31, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
License for File:Trebevic Track 1983 DDR.jpg
Can you please clarify to me how this photo is in scope of PD-Yugoslavia, because it doesn't meet any of criteria in template? Maybe it need to have another appropriate template. --Smooth O (talk) 07:45, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Smooth O, thank you very much for noticing this and offering your help on this issue. I believe it could be the "gov" tag, indeed, along with the BH-PD tag. This is what is said in the OTRS ticket:
- "The file appears in a free and openly available, non-copyright protected administrative report of the preparation of the 1984 winter Olympic games published by an entity of the Yugoslavian Government. Since this is a government-created work, it is open source by nature as were all government-created works in the former SFR Yugoslavia. Additionally, at the time of publication, SFR Yugoslavia had signed the Universal Copyright Convention (UCC) and assumed its general copyright law. This grants copyright from the date of publication of public works 25 years (which expired in 2008) for documents and 10 years (which expired in 1993) for photography.
- It does appear that under the current laws of Bosnia and Herzegovina, public domain status exists for this particular government-created work.
- Parliamentary Assembly of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Copyright and Related Rights Law, Article 8 (Unprotected Creations)
- Copyright protection shall not extend to: a) ideas, concepts, procedures, work methods, mathematical operations, principles or discoveries, b) c) d) e) official texts in the domain of legislation, administration and judiciary (laws, regulations, decisions, reports, minutes, judgments and alike), political speeches and speeches made at court hearings, daily news or miscellaneous information having the character of mere items of press information, folk leterary and artistic creations. (2) The translations of the texts and speeches referred to in items b) and c) of paragraph (1) of this Article shall be copyrighted, unless they are published as official texts.
- Parliamentary Assembly of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Copyright and Related Rights Law, Article 8 (Unprotected Creations)
- Since this work was created to monitor the administration of the 1984 winter Olympic games, it falls under the domain of administration and is considered an unprotected creation."
- Can you help finding the proper tag for this? If that logic is not correct, please tell me as well, so that I can explain that to the person who contacted OTRS.-- Darwin Ahoy! 11:06, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Looking at this rationale, this photo is not in PD, looking both Yugoslavian and Bosnian copyright law, especially Bosnian Law, because it's obviously don't fall in scope of article 8. and also not within scope of Template:PD-Bosnia and Herzegovina. Looking at Yugoslavian PD template it should be published before 1966, and this is published in 1984. So, in my opinion this photo is still copyrighted. But maybe someone else can assist with this issue, because for me copyright is sometimes confusing. --Smooth O (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Also, regarding his rationale that government created work in Bosnia and Herzegovina is PD, it only means for official texts in the domain of legislation, administration and judiciary (laws, regulations, decisions, reports, minutes, judgments and alike). --Smooth O (talk) 12:18, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Smooth O: Thank you very much for your insight on this, I'll put the case under discussion on the Copyright VP. In the meantime, please change whatever you feel is appropriate in the licensing of the image.-- Darwin Ahoy! 12:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Also, regarding his rationale that government created work in Bosnia and Herzegovina is PD, it only means for official texts in the domain of legislation, administration and judiciary (laws, regulations, decisions, reports, minutes, judgments and alike). --Smooth O (talk) 12:18, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- Looking at this rationale, this photo is not in PD, looking both Yugoslavian and Bosnian copyright law, especially Bosnian Law, because it's obviously don't fall in scope of article 8. and also not within scope of Template:PD-Bosnia and Herzegovina. Looking at Yugoslavian PD template it should be published before 1966, and this is published in 1984. So, in my opinion this photo is still copyrighted. But maybe someone else can assist with this issue, because for me copyright is sometimes confusing. --Smooth O (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
License for WSOP Pictures
Dear DarwIn, I uploaded many pictures of WSOP Bracelet winners since 22 June 2017. The copyright holder Seth Palansky from Caesars sent a mail to OTRS where he gave permission for the upload and the license. Please verify the license for all my uploaded files since 22 June 2017. Thank you. -- M-B (talk) 15:16, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
File: Der Zebrafisch erobert das Labor - Lernposter für Kinder und Schüler.pdf
Dear DarwIn,
I've sent out an email with a statements by me, Andreas Puyskens, and Alexandra Grünig in regards to the missing authorship information to permissions at wikimedia commons . Please let me know if you have received our statements or if you need additional information from us to approve the file.
Thank you very much! Kind regards sydney7887/Andreas Puyskens — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydney7887 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There was a problem with maps on Wikimedia wikis that used <mapframe> when you clicked on the link to another map service. Open Street Map or Google Maps are examples of other map services. If you had marked a place on the map the marker would not be in the same place on the other map service. It was in the middle of the map. This has now been fixed. [91]
Changes this week
- Very old and inactive unpublished translations in the Content Translation database will be removed. This is because of technical maintenance. If you have not worked on a translation after 1 January 2016 you will lose it after 6 July. If you want to keep the unfinished translation you need to open it before 6 July with the Content Translation tool. You can continue working on it later. Translations that were started or have been worked on after 1 January 2016 will not be affected.
- There is no new Mediawiki version this week.
- EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. It works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/07 issue. [92]
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15:31, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Latso
Dear DarwIn
I just wanted to ask you, if there is anything from my side that needs to be done in order to presevre these files: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hommage_%C3%A0_Rameau_(Tribute_to_Rameau),_Images_I.ogg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Debussy_,_Reflets_dans_l%27eau.ogg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Franz_Liszt_Mephisto_Waltz_No._1.ogg
I would appreciate for your advice/ and suggestion. Best, Asuas (talk) 15:48, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There are sometimes links to pages about the same thing on other Wikimedia projects. A Wikipedia article about Berlin can link to the Wikivoyage guide or Wiktionary entry about Berlin. You can now see when that page has a badge. A badge could be the star that shows that an article is a featured article. [93]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 July. It will be on all wikis from 13 July (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Mobile users will be able to edit Wikipedia without JavaScript. This will make it possible to edit the wikis from older mobile phones. This will probably happen on 18 July for most wikis. [94]
- We will not use Tidy on Wikimedia wikis in the future. It will be replaced by June 2018. It could be earlier. Editors will need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors.
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15:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
photo isuue
Hi there could you please fix this file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juma_Mahmud_Pendroy.jpg i don't know why its became big issue to publish this photo the, guy appeared on photo he is my uncle and photo was taking by his phone and sent it to me to publish on wikipedia , thank you for help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pendroy (talk • contribs) 05:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Pedido
Favor ver se esta edição está correta. Agradeço desde já. 2804:14C:5BB5:A56E:8D15:E9C5:9536:93DF 22:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- "Wikimedia Labs" is now called "Cloud VPS". "Wikimedia Tool Labs" is now called "Wikimedia Toolforge". This is to help clarify the purpose of these services. [95]
Problems
- On some pages, the Table of Contents is not being shown. It will normally appear if you edit the page again. Investigation is currently ongoing. [96]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).
Meetings
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- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is: Migrate to HTML5 section ids. [97] The meeting will be on 19 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Page Previews, currently a Beta Feature, will be enabled for logged-out users for all remaining Wikipedias (with the exception of English and German) the week of 24 July. An A/B test will be run on English Wikipedia to collect data before approaching the community for further discussion. [98]
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22:59, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Structured Data on Commons Newsletter, July 19, 2017
Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!
Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons?
The millions of files on Wikimedia Commons are described with a lot of information or (meta)data. With the project Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons, this data is structured more, and is made machine-readable. This will make it easier to view, search (also multilingually), edit, organize and re-use the files on Commons.
In early 2017, the Sloan Foundation funded this project (see documentation). Development takes place in 2017–2020. It involves staff from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) and many volunteers. To achieve this, Wikibase support is added to Wikimedia Commons. Wikibase is the technology that is also used for Wikidata.
Recent developments: groundwork
- A new and crucial technical step (federation) now makes it possible to reference data from one Wikibase website in another. Because of this, it will be possible to use Wikidata's items and properties to describe media files on Commons.
- Another important piece of groundwork is under development: so-called Multi-Content Revisions. This feature allows structured data to be stored alongside wiki text, so that one wiki page can contain several types of content.
Team updates
- Amanda Bittaker was hired as Program Manager for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. Amanda will take care of the overall management of the project.
- Sandra Fauconnier (known as Spinster in her volunteer capacity) is the new Community Liaison. She will support the collaboration between the communities (Commons, Wikidata, GLAM) and the product development teams at the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland.
- We have open positions for a UX designer and a Product Manager!
Talking with communities and allies
- Long-term feedback from GLAMs. Besides the Wikimedia community, many external cultural and knowledge institutions (GLAMs - Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) are interested in Structured Data on Commons and are willing to provide feedback on the long-term plans for the project. Alex Stinson, GLAM strategist at the Wikimedia Foundation, is currently in contact with Europeana, DPLA, the Smithsonian and the National Archives of the United States. Alex is also looking for other GLAM institutions who might be able to advise on the long term. If you know of an institution or partner that may be appropriate for consultation, do get in touch with Alex.
- Jonathan Morgan, design researcher, is starting to work on two projects:
- Researching batch upload workflows by interviewing GLAM institutions
- Researching the enrichment, organization and improvement tasks on already uploaded media files by engaging with active Commons contributors. This research follows up on existing research by Wikimedia Deutschland on heavy Commons users.
What comes next?
- The Structured Data on Commons team meets in the week after Wikimania to lay the groundwork for the next steps. This includes new backend development and design work, for better and more clear integration of the structured data in pages on Wikimedia Commons.
- The project's information pages on Wikimedia Commons will receive a long overdue update in the upcoming months. The team will also work on more and better communication channels. Feedback, wishes and tips are welcome at the project's general talk page.
Get involved
- Join us at Wikimania! We are present at the hackathon, and there will be a session on Saturday, August 12: Structured Commons: what changes are coming?
- Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
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- Stay tuned for requests for input, discussion and participation as soon as the info portal is refreshed (see above). These will also be announced via this newsletter.
Many greetings from SandraF (WMF) (talk), Community Liaison for this project! 13:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Moção
Olá DarwIn, existe algum gadget que faça a troca de imagens nas wikipédias? Mr. Fulano (talk) 00:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Oi Mr. Fulano, quando eu movo, ele sempre faz a troca automaticamente. Não tenho a certeza, mas penso que o Ajax Quickdelete tem a ver com isso - mas somente funciona se você for filemover.-- Darwin Ahoy! 00:44, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Eu já sou filemover, porém não tem nada a ver com isso. É que um usuário criou a versão SVG de um brasão para substituir a versão JPG, só que manualmente dá muito trabalho. Mr. Fulano (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Mr. Fulano Ok, eu não tinha percebido o que você queria. Tem como fazer isso sim, usando o bot, o CommonsDelinker, mas é (pelo menos era) estritamente proibido fazer trocas de extensão, como é o caso que você quer, devido a conflitos que isso originou no passado com Wikipédias/wikipedistas que não queriam a troca. Pode dar uma olhada lá no bot, e ver se algo foi alterado a esse respeito, mas penso que para ser autorizado a fazer isso teria de ter permissão em todas as wikis onde a mudança vai ser feita, o que dá infinitamente mais trabalho que trocar tudo à mão.-- Darwin Ahoy! 01:10, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Eu acho que não é possível, então vou mover manualmente. Mr. Fulano (talk) 01:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Me diz uma outra coisa, qual é o gadget que faz as moções das imagens? Eu achei que fosse o Ajax Quick Delete, mas ao ver o código percebi que não era. É que eu desejava fazer algumas mudanças no meu common.js. Mr. Fulano (talk) 22:10, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Eu acho que não é possível, então vou mover manualmente. Mr. Fulano (talk) 01:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Mr. Fulano Ok, eu não tinha percebido o que você queria. Tem como fazer isso sim, usando o bot, o CommonsDelinker, mas é (pelo menos era) estritamente proibido fazer trocas de extensão, como é o caso que você quer, devido a conflitos que isso originou no passado com Wikipédias/wikipedistas que não queriam a troca. Pode dar uma olhada lá no bot, e ver se algo foi alterado a esse respeito, mas penso que para ser autorizado a fazer isso teria de ter permissão em todas as wikis onde a mudança vai ser feita, o que dá infinitamente mais trabalho que trocar tudo à mão.-- Darwin Ahoy! 01:10, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Eu já sou filemover, porém não tem nada a ver com isso. É que um usuário criou a versão SVG de um brasão para substituir a versão JPG, só que manualmente dá muito trabalho. Mr. Fulano (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
@Mr. Fulano: Se não é esse, também não sei qual é.. :| -- Darwin Ahoy! 01:02, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works on mediawiki.org and Wikitech. It will come to more wikis later. [99][100][101]
-
.mw-ui-constructive
modifier class is deprecated and has been removed. [102]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 July. It will be on all wikis from 27 July (calendar).
- It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences, in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please see the documentation. [103]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on 27 July at 19:00 (UTC). See the agenda and how to join.
Future changes
- New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.
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15:57, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
File:Olavo de Carvalho em 2013.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Família paixão (talk) 02:55, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- Darwin, se trata de um speedy keep. O usuário não entende de licensas de Youtube. Holy Goo (talk) 03:03, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Acteur
Industrial free trade zones has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
GDAL (talk) 13:09, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
photo issue
Hi there could you please fix this file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juma_Mahmud_Pendroy.jpg
The guy appeared on photo he is my uncle and photo was taking by his phone and sent it to us to publish on Wikipedia, the photo before published by my brother under same Author name , if you could fix i will be very appreciate for your help if not you can remove it
thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pendroy (talk • contribs) 03:46, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Eliminação
Olá DarwIn, vim aqui lhe pedir ajuda de novo. Estava andando por aí, procurando algo para fazer, e me deparei com isto, que é uma difamação de um usuário e uma violação dos direitos autorais desse site. Como que eu posso realizar um pedido de eliminação? Mr. Fulano (talk) 19:23, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Eu duvido que esse tipo de material constitua qualquer violação de direitos autorais, mas tratando-se de material de ataque, e obviamente fora do escopo do projecto, já foi pelo ralo. Gone, finito. :) -- Darwin Ahoy! 19:28, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Na verdade é uma violação sim, pois se trata de uma screenshot da seção de comentários do G1, o que você pode ver abrindo qualquer notícia de lá e indo a seção. Mr. Fulano (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Não tem mesmo como aquilo ser violação de direitos de autor, Mr. Fulano. Qualquer lei de protecção de copyright pressupõe que há algo para proteger, e nesse screenshot não achei rigorosamente nada que pudesse ser alvo de protecção. É um comentário banal, com dois ou três bonecos perfeitamente banais, sem a menor originalidade. O site de onde veio pode estar sob copyright em geral, mas esse material realmente não tem cobertura, muito menos na lei brasileira, que é especialmente exigente nesse quesito.-- Darwin Ahoy! 19:45, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Entendi, como não há nenhuma originalidade naquele screenshot, como logos, imagens e afins, ele não viola os direitos, certo? Mr. Fulano (talk) 19:54, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Sim, é isso, está abaixo do COM:TOO, que no Brasil é particularmente alto, bem mais que nos EUA, que é a nossa referência aqui.-- Darwin Ahoy! 19:57, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Entendi, como não há nenhuma originalidade naquele screenshot, como logos, imagens e afins, ele não viola os direitos, certo? Mr. Fulano (talk) 19:54, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Não tem mesmo como aquilo ser violação de direitos de autor, Mr. Fulano. Qualquer lei de protecção de copyright pressupõe que há algo para proteger, e nesse screenshot não achei rigorosamente nada que pudesse ser alvo de protecção. É um comentário banal, com dois ou três bonecos perfeitamente banais, sem a menor originalidade. O site de onde veio pode estar sob copyright em geral, mas esse material realmente não tem cobertura, muito menos na lei brasileira, que é especialmente exigente nesse quesito.-- Darwin Ahoy! 19:45, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Na verdade é uma violação sim, pois se trata de uma screenshot da seção de comentários do G1, o que você pode ver abrindo qualquer notícia de lá e indo a seção. Mr. Fulano (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Some pages show the error
Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject
. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything. [104] - Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in the incident report.
Changes later this week
- Some wikis already have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. All remaining wikis except Commons will have these from 1 August. [105]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The default font in the edit window will soon change for some users. Instead of using the browser default it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [106]
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21:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Um editor pode branquear uma imagem depois de tê-la doado?
Olha isso aqui. A não ser que se comprove violação de direitos autorais, a imagem não pode ser apagada dessa forma nem mesmo pelo carregador original, certo? Ou pode? José Luiz disc 01:40, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Jbribeiro1: Isso está completamente fora dos padrões daqui, especialmente sendo um carregamento tão antigo. O ideal seria levar o assunto ao Village Pump de Copyright, para que seja avaliado o caso, e tomada a atitude apropriada - ou reverter, ou apagar. Realmente assim é que não pode ficar. Quanto ao branqueamento, ele pode ser interpretado como um pedido de eliminação logo após o carregamento, e aí seria eliminado por cortesia, mas não entendi bem o que diz a mensagem em alemão, parece ser algo relacionado a copyright.-- Darwin Ahoy! 12:09, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
- Já tratei do assunto. Há que não merecem mais que uns clicques para resolver. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 09:11, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oi Tuvalkin, obrigado! Já devia ter sido feito há anos...-- Darwin Ahoy! 16:58, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Obrigado a todos. Não resolvi pessoalmente por que nunca tinha me deparado com isso antes. Agora já sei! José Luiz disc 17:22, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Dúvidas sobre licença de imagens
Olá DarwIn, esbarrei com duas imagens carregadas aqui no Commons que são capturas de telas do Youtube, foi indicado que estão com a licença permitida, visualizei o canal e está completamente em língua ocidental, aparenta ser Hangul. Eu não consegui identificar a licença, mas pelo que eu sei os canais de emissoras (como é o caso) não costuma postar vídeos sobre licença Creative Commons. Poderia verificar?
Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 08:44, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: Algumas publicam em licença livre, essa deve ser uma delas, porque não detectei nada de errado com o licenciamento. Inclusive já o aprovei, porque ainda estava pendente de revisão.-- Darwin Ahoy! 17:04, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
- Realmente eu achei estranho e não consegui encontrar a licença, também gostaria de te pedir uma ajuda, eu sem querer adicionei este ficheiro, mas observando bem eu gostaria de mantê-lo aqui, achei a imagem muito bonita, só não sei como conseguir provar que o artigo está naquela licença sem ser pelo link do Flickr, é só adicionar a licença de domínio público? Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 01:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: Parece que nesse caso ele não traduz a licença automaticamente. Mas sempre que for esse domínio público "mark 1" lá no Flickr, é a {{CC-PD}} aqui. Já acertei a licença na foto do gatinho. :) -- Darwin Ahoy! 01:58, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Muito obrigado, eu adicionei a imagem errada mas acabei gostando dela. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 02:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Olá DarwIn, pode verificar esta imagem também? Mesmo autor, mesmo domínio, desta vez pretendo colocar a imagem em minha PU no Wikipédia. Tentei colocar a licença mas não consegui, apareceu que não tenho permissão. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 02:19, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Muito obrigado, eu adicionei a imagem errada mas acabei gostando dela. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 02:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: Parece que nesse caso ele não traduz a licença automaticamente. Mas sempre que for esse domínio público "mark 1" lá no Flickr, é a {{CC-PD}} aqui. Já acertei a licença na foto do gatinho. :) -- Darwin Ahoy! 01:58, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Realmente eu achei estranho e não consegui encontrar a licença, também gostaria de te pedir uma ajuda, eu sem querer adicionei este ficheiro, mas observando bem eu gostaria de mantê-lo aqui, achei a imagem muito bonita, só não sei como conseguir provar que o artigo está naquela licença sem ser pelo link do Flickr, é só adicionar a licença de domínio público? Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 01:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
@Conde Edmond Dantès: Lendo a discussão sobre esse caso da PD Mark 1, parece que a licença mais aproximada é a {{Cc-zero}}, e não a {{CC-PD}}, que parece ser algo muito específico dos EUA. Já fiz a revisão da licença. Esses casos da PD Mark 1 têm de ser feitos todos manualmente. Quando carregares algum desses, podes colocar aqui o aviso que eu faço a revisão logo que veja.-- Darwin Ahoy! 02:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Agradeço, estou seguindo o que você fala, tanto que adicionei a licença, mas não consegui conferir no Flickr, apesar disso já coloquei a imagem em minha PU. Obrigado. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 02:38, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: Até agora está tudo certo. :) Essas PD Mark 1 estão fora do padrão, mas pelo que percebi são aceites aqui também, penso que não haverá qualquer problema.-- Darwin Ahoy! 02:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Tudo bem, qualquer coisa me avisa, vou voltar na Wikipédia, abraços. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 02:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: Até agora está tudo certo. :) Essas PD Mark 1 estão fora do padrão, mas pelo que percebi são aceites aqui também, penso que não haverá qualquer problema.-- Darwin Ahoy! 02:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Oi DarwIn! Obrigado por criar {{PD-Brazil-URAA}} e tratar de Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Lal Borges. Mas (e só para esclarecer) tem certeza que a licença é aplicável para File:Praça Antônio João.jpg, foto tirada na década de 1970, considerando "Uma obra cujo autor morreu antes de 1947" (foto tirada por um morto?) + "publicada ou divulgada antes de 1947" (bom, a foto foi tirada +/- 1970)...? Isto vale também para File:AraucariaemPP.jpg (1970s) + File:Ponta68.jpg (1960s) + File:Pontapora1.jpg (1970s)... Ver também {{PD-Brazil-media}}. Gunnex (talk) 16:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oi Gunnex! É, já não era sem tempo, essa predefinição estava fazendo bastante falta. Sim, tenho a certeza que todos esses casos eram PD em 1989, pois há vasta jurisprudência sobre o assunto. Alguma dela eu coloquei aqui para referência, pois como é evidente não podemos ser nós a decidir o que é e não é criação artística. A jurisprudência brasileira sobre o assunto, no entanto, é bastante clara ao não conferir qualquer protecção a fotos "normais" - ao tipo de foto com um tema óbvio, e sem nenhuma técnica que as distinga. Tem mesmo muitos casos de tribunal sobre isso. Em todas essas fotos é possível perceber que são disparos sem grande cuidado e nenhuma técnica, em particular os mais recentes. E como a actual lei brasileira de direitos de autor é explicitamente não retroactiva, conforme o Art. 112, eles continuam em domínio público. Agora, em relação à "foto do morto", você tem razão, tenho de alterar esse texto. Ele veio junto com a PD-Portugal-URAA, mas realmente não se aplica ali no caso das fotos.-- Darwin Ahoy! 16:57, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
@Gunnex: A tag ainda tinha vários erros, essa data de 1947 não tem qualquer relação com a lei brasileira. Eu acho que já os corrigi a todos, mas se puder por favor verifique, a ver se me escapou alguma coisa. Em relação às fotos, ao havendo indício de criatividade nas fotografias, e não apenas disparos óbvios, elas devem ser eliminadas por um dos processos daqui. Mas penso que há imenso material que foi eliminado, mas que está de facto em domínio público, e pode ser agora ser restaurado e "licenciado" com essa {{PD-Brazil-URAA}}.-- Darwin Ahoy! 17:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ainda não fiquei convencido, considerando (e analisando) também o texto completo de https://tj-sc.jusbrasil.com.br/jurisprudencia/5402887/apelacao-civel-ac-111630-sc-2002011163-0/inteiro-teor-11724308?ref=juris-tabs (seu primeiro link em COM:CRT#Brazil)
- "De início, assinala-se que a norma reguladora do caso vertente é a Lei 5.988, de 14 de dezembro de 1973, tendo em vista que os fatos narrados na peça inaugural que deram aso ao ajuizamento desta demanda ocorreram em fevereiro de 1998, enquanto a Lei 9.610, de 19 de fevereiro de 1998, revogadora da precedente acerca dos direitos autorais, entrou em vigor a partir de 19.06.1998."
- E o seu segundo caso (https://tj-pr.jusbrasil.com.br/jurisprudencia/4371292/apelacao-civel-ac-946589-pr-apelacao-civel-0094658-9/inteiro-teor-11165872?ref=juris-tabs), um caso aberto em 2000, parece também decidido somente perante a legislação antiga de 1973, tendo antecedentes antes da nova lei de 1998... Gunnex (talk) 18:56, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Gunnex: Sim, eles são sempre decididos pela lei de 1973, e nunca pela de 1998. A lei de 1998, no artigo 112, é bastante clara sobre a não extensão da protecção de 70 anos aos casos já no domínio público: "Art. 112. Se uma obra, em conseqüência de ter expirado o prazo de proteção que lhe era anteriormente reconhecido pelo § 2º do art. 42 da Lei nº 5.988, de 14 de dezembro de 1973, caiu no domínio público, não terá o prazo de proteção dos direitos patrimoniais ampliado por força do art. 41 desta Lei." Ou há alguma coisa que eu esteja a ver mal aqui?-- Darwin Ahoy! 20:18, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oi! Só avisando que não restou nenhum tempo livre nos últimos dias para eu poder avançar nesta discussão. Vou retomar a pesquisa nos próximos dias. Gunnex (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Gunnex: Obrigado! -- Darwin Ahoy! 17:06, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oi! Só avisando que não restou nenhum tempo livre nos últimos dias para eu poder avançar nesta discussão. Vou retomar a pesquisa nos próximos dias. Gunnex (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Gunnex: Sim, eles são sempre decididos pela lei de 1973, e nunca pela de 1998. A lei de 1998, no artigo 112, é bastante clara sobre a não extensão da protecção de 70 anos aos casos já no domínio público: "Art. 112. Se uma obra, em conseqüência de ter expirado o prazo de proteção que lhe era anteriormente reconhecido pelo § 2º do art. 42 da Lei nº 5.988, de 14 de dezembro de 1973, caiu no domínio público, não terá o prazo de proteção dos direitos patrimoniais ampliado por força do art. 41 desta Lei." Ou há alguma coisa que eu esteja a ver mal aqui?-- Darwin Ahoy! 20:18, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oi! Desculpe o atraso (wikibreak/viagens/etc.). A leitura não só dos seguintes links jurídicos selecionados custou alguns nervos :-). Pelo menos entendi melhor a situação. Infelizmente, vai ficar difícil senão impossível de traçar uma linha exata que decide sobre "obras artísticas" (como definido no art. 6 da Lei 5988/73), podendo ficar como argumento final: COM:PRP.
- No meu ver, já existem alguns ficheiros na Category:PD-Brazil-URAA que (pelos argumentos abaixo) configuram "obra artística".
- Vamos aos casos:
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- Deixo tudo isto para que possa refletir/opinhar com calma e vou fugindo em mais um Wikibreak até 12.09.2017. E desculpe inundar a sua página de discussão com isto que (por falar nela) precisa de um arquivamento :-) Gunnex (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Gunnex: Muito obrigado pela sua recolha e por toda a informação, que brevemente lerei e estudarei com a maior atenção. Desde já lhe posso dizer que recentemente também me apercebi de um problema grave com a FoP brasileira, que é o facto da lei falar em "logradouros", que aparentemente está bem estabelecido serem lugares exteriores de uso comum, como ruas e praças, e tenho aqui uma data coisas sobre isso para ver. Isso implicará certamente numa purga bastante significativa nas obras de arte, com grande pena minha... Mas lei é lei. Quanto à questão da criação artística, mesmo usando a regra da precaução, creio que haverá pelo menos algumas situações em que será claro que a obra não gozava de protecção. Mas vou começar por estudar o material que me trouxe, e pelo qual lhe estou realmente grato. Desejo-lhe uma boa wikipausa, e espero que quando retornar, já tenha mais alguma coisa em concreto para ajudar a melhorar e corrigir a PD-Brazil-URAA.-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:18, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
@Gunnex: Olá Gunnex! Estou começando a analisar as situações que me trouxe, aos olhos da lei antiga brasileira de direitos autorais:
- Fotos de plantas por fotógrafo profissional, não tenho qualquer dúvida sobre ser obra artística protegida;
- Fotos da agência em guia turístico, idem;
- Fotos de elevada técnica feitas por fotógrafo amador - óbvio que são protegidas, a lei não fala em lado algum de "fotógrafos profissionais";
- Foto do presidente com o carrinho de compras - idem, sem dúvida alguma aqui, é uma foto icónica;
- Foto publicada em jornal: Idem, inclusive ajuda a estabelecer os parâmetros de avaliação, pois "as fotos inseridas nos autos, constato que denotam caráter artístico, caracterizando-se pela originalidade, criatividade e técnica da sua autora, elementos que dela não se podem excluir como reveladores, a princípio, de uma obra de arte. Não são elas, como pretende o apelante, meras constatações ou reproduções de imagens para fins publicitários, ou instantâneos comuns, além do que, por certo, o interesse do apelante em publicar tais fotografias, presumivelmente, foi por levar em consideração que tais trabalhos eram dotados de valor artístico" (realce meu)
- Fotos das instalações do Camelão - pelo que percebi foi um caso de danos morais, e a criação artística não parece ter sido contestada (?), pelo que não ajuda muito neste caso;
- Fotografias por intermédio da artista plástica Verônica França - Parece ser caso em que é evidente o carácter artístico da obra;
- Fotos documentárias do parto de cócoras - Este é o caso mais "perigoso" que vi ali, com respeito ao COM:PRP; mesmo assim, a qualidade técnica das fotografias é absolutamente evidente nessa situação;
- Fotografia aérea do Max Min Clube: "focalizou a área fotografada, bem como a escolha do ângulo correto demonstra ter sido empregado profissionalismo na execução do trabalho fotográfico" Compare com esta vista aerea de Osasco que restaurei para usarmos como comparação - fora de foco, sem enquadramento, num ângulo à toa - uma foto tirada do avião "como pôde ser" - não me parece que caiba no mérito da criação artística.
Vou deixar este caso separado do outro que me falou na mesma mensagem, para não misturar as respostas. De qualquer modo, creio que a ideia geral que prevalece é: Sendo óbvia a falta de valor artístico, OK, caso contrário, aplica-se o COM:PRP. Talvez fosse bom colectarmos esses casos todos numa subpágina, junto com os que eu já coloquei lá, para referência futura. Aguardando a sua resposta com o maior interesse,-- Darwin Ahoy! 15:43, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
@Gunnex: Se puder, dê uma olhada nesses que já caíram aí: Category:PD-Brazil-URAA, e assinale alguns que sejam passíveis de ser eliminados por COM:PRP, para começarmos a trabalhar alguns casos concretos aqui.-- Darwin Ahoy! 16:03, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
FOP Brasil
(Movido da subsecção acima)
- Já que fiquei algumas horas surfando nos servidores jurídicos relacionados, tomei a oportunidade para tentar esclarecer outro caso do direito autoral brasileiro. Afeta s situação atual do COM:FOP#Brazil que é (atualmente) OK via {{FoP-Brazil}}.
- Reprodução da escultura chamada "Araras" do artista "Cleir Ávila Ferreira Júnior" (edificada 1996) num ingresso para o jogo entre a Seleção Brasileira e a Seleção da Venezuela
- --> Cleir Ávila Ferreira Júnior vs Confederação Brasileira de Futebol
- Citações:
- "(...) Segundo a doutrina especializada, a expressão "representação" abrange apenas a reprodução meramente ilustrativa da obra. Refere-se à "qualquer forma de registro ou fixação da obra, sob o ponto de vista estético, seja por meios mecânicos ou manuais, tais como fotografias, filmagens, pinturas e ilustrações", não significando, porém, que o utilizador esteja autorizado "a reproduzir essas criações no formato em que foram concebidas" (MENEZES, Elisângela Dias. Curso de direito autoral. Belo Horizonte: Del Rey, 2007, p. 107). Outrossim, como se intui, a exceção prevista no artigo 48 da Lei 9.610⁄98 não autoriza o aproveitamento subsequente da representação da obra para fins comerciais (diretos ou indiretos), sem a prévia anuência do autor (...)
- Observações:
- A decisão do corte considerou que a reprodução da obra do artista "Cleir Ávila Ferreira Júnior" nos ingressos da partida foi elaborada "(...) sem a [a obra] destacar do contexto da Praça das Araras, pois o espaço aéreo, as árvores que a circundam, bem como o monte de terra onde edificada foram devidamente retratados [nos ingressos]. Por cima, não houve "interesse meramente econômico" porque o desenho do ingresso "não significou qualquer incremento ao número de espectadores do jogo, mas sim o renome da Seleção Brasileira de Futebol, cujo reconhecimento como patrimônio cultural do país".
- O tribunal cita como exemplo oposto o caso da Telemar Norte Leste S⁄A, que sem a devida autorização do autor das obras, reproduziu, em cartões telefônicos, imagens de esculturas integrantes do Complexo do Santuário de São José de Ribamar no Maranhão. Neste caso (ver abaixo) "(...) A companhia telefônica utilizou-se das fotos isoladas das obras de arte (isto é, destacando-as do contexto da igreja), inserindo-as em cartões telefônicos a serem vendidos ao público (...) ficou evidente o interesse meramente econômico da companhia telefônica (...)"
- --> ver Sival Floriano Veloso vs Telemar Norte Leste S⁄A
- A jurisprudência envolta do art. 48 (so dei uma rápida passagem) parece bem clara:
- "Conferiu-se, ainda, provimento ao recurso especial do ora embargante para, "reconhecida a violação de direito patrimonial do autor pela representação de sua obra arquitetônica para fins comerciais, sem sua autorização (...)"
- "(...) reprodução de obra de arte (grafite) de titularidade do requerente, em editorial de moda publicado pela Revista VIP, pertencente à ré (sem indicação da respectiva autoria, tampouco autorização) (...) que não afasta a responsabilidade pela reprodução indevida (para fins lucrativos ou comerciais)"
- "(...) Em razão de as obras situadas permanentemente em logradouros públicos integrarem de modo indissociável o meio ambiente, a compor a paisagem como um todo, sua representação (por meio de pinturas, desenhos, fotografias e procedimentos audiovisuais), por qualquer observador, não configura, em princípio, violação ao direito autoral. A hipótese dos autos, todavia, não é de mera representação da paisagem, em que inserida a obra arquitetônica, mas sim de representação unicamente da obra arquitetônica, com finalidade lucrativa. Refoge, em absoluto, do âmbito de aplicação do dispositivo legal sob comento a representação por terceiro de obra arquitetônica com finalidade comercial, que consubstancia direito exclusivo de seu autor.". Ver também o resumo aqui (caso: "Um arquiteto conseguiu na Justiça o direito de ser indenizado pela fabricante de tintas que usou a imagem de uma casa projetada por ele nas latas do produto e em material publicitário, sem sua autorização nem indicação de seu nome como autor do projeto. O uso da imagem havia sido permitido pelo proprietário do imóvel.")
- etc.
- Pelo que vi até agora, a exploração comercial por meio de pinturas, desenhos, fotografias e procedimentos audiovisuais de obras situadas em logradouros públicos é vedada pela jurisprudência nos casos quando a obra é "representada" (ver acima: a expressão "representação" abrange apenas a reprodução meramente ilustrativa da obra) de maneira destacada. No resultado, significaria Not OK para {{FoP-Brazil}}.
- Deixo tudo isto para que possa refletir/opinhar com calma e vou fugindo em mais um Wikibreak até 12.09.2017. E desculpe inundar a sua página de discussão com isto que (por falar nela) precisa de um arquivamento :-) Gunnex (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Gunnex: À primeira vista, parece algo bastante grave, sim, em particular o caso da Telemar Norte Leste S⁄A, e vai de encontro à reavaliação que eu já pretendia fazer dessa cláusula, pois estava a ser usada aqui (inclusive por mim), como se logradouro fosse qualquer espaço público (e até "aberto ao público") dentro e fora de portas. Em Portugal isso é absolutamente pacífico, pelo menos na lei actual, mas no Brasil de facto não é. Esse das tintas eu já tinha lido, mas não me lembro porquê, achei-o pacífico. Tenho que o ler novamente. Vou avaliar isso com a maior atenção, e conto em breve lhe apresentar um modelo de regra para acertar esse problema da FOP Brasil.-- Darwin Ahoy! 15:56, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Gunnex: Finito. Foi quase pior que fazer um destacado, mas creio que consegui encontrar alguma coerência na jurisprudência brasileira. Nos casos em que houve punição e que potencialmente causariam mais problemas ao Commons, a obra de arte havia sido isolada no uso comercial da imagem, o que efectivamente atenta contra qualquer FoP. No caso da escultura da Praça Araras, por exemplo, é explicitamente dito (entre outros argumentos) que por não estar destacada dos elementos que a rodeiam, ao contrário do caso das esculturas nos cartões telefónicos, enquadra-se no Artº 48. O caso da casa na lata de tinta é idêntico, eles tinham isolado o objecto, além de que aí existia uma base material para a indemnização, pois haviam sido pagos direitos autorais à entidade errada. Também ficou claro para mim, pela jurisprudência, que o conceito de logradouro público se estende a qualquer lugar a que o público em geral pode aceder, mesmo interiores e espaços privados (quando abertos ao público, caso do Cristo Redentor). Quando puder reveja o que eu fiz, para o caso de poder ter entendido mal qualquer coisa ali.-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:19, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Category:Argent, a cross patee entire, gules, between four eagles displayed, sable
Hi, I noticed that back in 2012 you made Category:Argent, a cross patee entire, gules, between four eagles displayed, sable for the arms of Giovanni Francesco Gonzaga. I've never seen a category described in such a way - is there some specific reason it's not something like Category:Arms of House of Gonzaga as is normal practice? Thanks. Wikimandia (talk) 20:04, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Wikimandia: I can't recall the exact reason. Maybe I was following a pattern, maybe the "arms of Gonzaga" changed over the times, or different families shared the same brazon. Anyway, it should never be "Arms of the House of Gonzaga", because in most occasions that you have marshalled Mantua, you are already out of that "house". But it could be "Mantua in heraldry", if there are not conflicts with Mantua the place (they probably are).-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:23, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Cobras
Salve! Conversei com o autor do livro e ele me disse que usou as fotos com autorização dos autores. Marquei-as para ficar bem claro quais são, pois os esses autores estão listados no final do livro. Considerando que o copyright (página 4) era do autor e ele já liberou, resolveria se déssemos o crédito para os autores nas páginas das respectivas imagens? Boas! Ixocactus (talk) 05:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Olá Ixocactus. Não, infelizmente não resolve. Tem de haver uma autorização formal de relicenciamento da parte desses autores, somente a atribuição não chega para fazer com que estejam sob licença livre. Abraço, -- Darwin Ahoy! 20:12, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Valeu!!! Então vou conversar com o autor e pedir os e-mails deles para tentar licenciar essas que estão faltando. Boas!!! --Ixocactus (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Olá
Você pode rever o bloqueio na minha conta na Wikipédia lusófona? Creio que foi um engano de sua parte. O revolucionário aliado (talk) 05:45, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Ficheiros de socks
Olá DarwIn, dá uma olhada neste ficheiro. Ele seria um caso de eliminação, por ter sido criado por um fantocheiro? Mr. Fulano (talk) 19:44, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Já apaguei. Chego a ficar com pena dele, até. :| -- Darwin Ahoy! 20:19, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ele até criou um canal no YouTube para tentar se defender. Mas não deu certo e virou motivo de piada com o pessoal aqui da wikipédia. O próximo passo dele vai ser ir na casa de algum administrador pedir desculpas, pelo visto. Mr. Fulano (talk) 20:54, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Ele tem a conta travada, e pelo q percebo isso em princípio n tem retorno. Mas também não me parece certo condenar alguém ao fogo eterno por uma besteira que fez aos 10 anos de idade.-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:01, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Concordo plenamente, mas para isso ele precisa parar com as brincadeiras e os vandalismos, e o mais importante, quando ele parar, que não venha o MSL e fique se passando por ele. E sobre ter volta, é possível sim, mas ele vai ter que criar outra conta sem que ninguém saiba e começar a fazer boas edições em alguma Wiki, e depois mostrar o resultado. Caso ele seja aceito, ele é desbloqueado localmente, e caso mostre sucesso nesse desbloqueio, ele pode tentar ser desbloqueado globalmente. O Armagedon2000 conseguiu e o Vhaslhv quase conseguiu. Pelo visto o Quintinense vai ser o próximo. Mr. Fulano (talk) 21:30, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Fulano: Ele tem a conta travada, e pelo q percebo isso em princípio n tem retorno. Mas também não me parece certo condenar alguém ao fogo eterno por uma besteira que fez aos 10 anos de idade.-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:01, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ele até criou um canal no YouTube para tentar se defender. Mas não deu certo e virou motivo de piada com o pessoal aqui da wikipédia. O próximo passo dele vai ser ir na casa de algum administrador pedir desculpas, pelo visto. Mr. Fulano (talk) 20:54, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Eliminação de uma revisão
Olá DarwIn! Seria possível apagares esta revisão? Quando editei a foto esqueci-me de ocultar alguns pormenores que não devem estar à vista de todos. Obrigado! Rúdisicyon (talk) 00:11, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Olá Rúdisicyon! Por favor confirme se foi a versão certa a que ficou. Bela foto, obrigado por a ter carregado aqui. :) -- Darwin Ahoy! 01:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Olá novamente! Sim, ficou a versão certa! Muito obrigado! Rúdisicyon (talk) 19:31, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Pictures
What's your problem with my pictures? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barsa99 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Barsa99: Olá. Elas eram todas, sem excepção, violações de direitos autorais, e você as carregou com uma licença inválida, como se estivessem livres de direitos. Por favor, não faça mais isso. Veja: COM:Licensing.-- Darwin Ahoy! 13:22, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- This user is another sock puppet of User:Arthur Brum. DrKay (talk) 18:32, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi DarwIn,I'm puzzled by this and I thought you might have the explanation. The two categories above don't seem to be linked in anyway. Maybe they are but I couldn't find it. I notice you created the Stagecoaches category, that's why I'm writing to you. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 09:54, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Eddaido! I'm not sure, but it could have to do with a change I seem to recall someone has done to the initial arrangement of categories I've done there. At the top there used to some subdivision like human-powered carriages (such as litters), and animal-powered carriages, which would subdivide then at some point. I seem to recall someone removed those two subtop categories because they didn't agreed with the separation between man and animal, and it disrupted the whole thing. You could try to add that category where it fits better, having in mind that some carriages (not sure about stagecoaches, but could be the case as well) can have different kinds of animal power, such as mules, oxen, reindeer, etc. The very same carriage can be powered by different animals at some point, or even by a mix of animals, so possibly it shouldn't be upwards on the tree, but on a parallel subtree which would apply only to the representations of carriages being powered by horses. Cheers, -- Darwin Ahoy! 11:24, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks I guessed someone has removed a link. Can we discuss a suitable solution? How would you recommend the categories should be organised? Is there someone else who should be in the discussion? Is there a better place for the discussion? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 21:37, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: When I started organizing the carriage categories, basically nothing was done, and the existing cats were an huge mess, as the people very commonly give wrong technical names to carriages (such as calling coach to a berlina, or landau to barouches, and so on). So I took a number of carriage treaties and catalogues, in order to do it in the most scientific way I could. I don't know about other people who have an interest on that subject, I've done that alone. One of the things I've noted, was the problem of the drawing force - you can have a victoria being pulled by donkeys - or even by dogs, I believe there's an image of that here - so it's not necessarily an horse-drawn vehicle. Therefore, I would only use the drawing power categories to files where that specific drawing power is used. Of course, some categories always use a given drawing power, such as the bullock cars of Madeira Island, which always use oxen. On the other hand, some categories which seem to be obviously drawn by a given power, sometimes are not. I recall litters, for instance - there are cases of horse drawn litters, I believe we have images of that here as well. It's quite complex, but the good part is that the system that I designed years ago used to work perfectly, without any problem that I can remember. But of course, if you have any ideas to improve it, go ahead. :)-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:55, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Well, for example we could have human-powered litters and horse-drawn litters separately categorised under litters and the horse-drawn ones would go into horse-drawn vehicles and the human powered in with the Asian taxis (and sedan chairs etc). I like it very much that you care whether it is a barouche or something else. I'm currently in trouble for fiddling with categories (in both projects, pedia and media) so I'm not inclined to go rushing into things without considerable support. Can you think of someone else that might help? If its any use I have found User:Michael Barera, a professional archivist, a great deal of help on these occasions. Can we try to explain it all to him? Eddaido (talk) 22:07, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: The way you describe it, is exactly the way I believe it should be. I still have here most of the sources I used years ago to classify the Commons carriages, so in case you need some help with a specific file, possibly I can help identifying it. At that time I've designed a system of keys, based on those carriage treaties, which I believe is still intact, which greatly helps with that classification. If I well recall, you start dividing between 4 and 2 wheels, then go to open or closed, and sometimes there's also a division about who is driving it (if it's a coacher, or the owner). Another thing that we must have in mind is that some vehicles greatly resemble carriages, but they are not, as they lack the whole system between the wheels and the body (such as the carts, and wagons, I seem to recall). If you need help there, at some specific categories, just tell me.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- I doubt I have your knowledge or experience but I do have some. What I've found with similar dilemmas is examples in related categories. But there I, like you, am too scared to do it on my own. I'll think about it and come back with some suggestions but what happens if there is an uprising of another editor(s) when we follow through and carry out our suggestions?! Eddaido (talk) 22:29, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: The way you describe it, is exactly the way I believe it should be. I still have here most of the sources I used years ago to classify the Commons carriages, so in case you need some help with a specific file, possibly I can help identifying it. At that time I've designed a system of keys, based on those carriage treaties, which I believe is still intact, which greatly helps with that classification. If I well recall, you start dividing between 4 and 2 wheels, then go to open or closed, and sometimes there's also a division about who is driving it (if it's a coacher, or the owner). Another thing that we must have in mind is that some vehicles greatly resemble carriages, but they are not, as they lack the whole system between the wheels and the body (such as the carts, and wagons, I seem to recall). If you need help there, at some specific categories, just tell me.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Well, for example we could have human-powered litters and horse-drawn litters separately categorised under litters and the horse-drawn ones would go into horse-drawn vehicles and the human powered in with the Asian taxis (and sedan chairs etc). I like it very much that you care whether it is a barouche or something else. I'm currently in trouble for fiddling with categories (in both projects, pedia and media) so I'm not inclined to go rushing into things without considerable support. Can you think of someone else that might help? If its any use I have found User:Michael Barera, a professional archivist, a great deal of help on these occasions. Can we try to explain it all to him? Eddaido (talk) 22:07, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: When I started organizing the carriage categories, basically nothing was done, and the existing cats were an huge mess, as the people very commonly give wrong technical names to carriages (such as calling coach to a berlina, or landau to barouches, and so on). So I took a number of carriage treaties and catalogues, in order to do it in the most scientific way I could. I don't know about other people who have an interest on that subject, I've done that alone. One of the things I've noted, was the problem of the drawing force - you can have a victoria being pulled by donkeys - or even by dogs, I believe there's an image of that here - so it's not necessarily an horse-drawn vehicle. Therefore, I would only use the drawing power categories to files where that specific drawing power is used. Of course, some categories always use a given drawing power, such as the bullock cars of Madeira Island, which always use oxen. On the other hand, some categories which seem to be obviously drawn by a given power, sometimes are not. I recall litters, for instance - there are cases of horse drawn litters, I believe we have images of that here as well. It's quite complex, but the good part is that the system that I designed years ago used to work perfectly, without any problem that I can remember. But of course, if you have any ideas to improve it, go ahead. :)-- Darwin Ahoy! 21:55, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks I guessed someone has removed a link. Can we discuss a suitable solution? How would you recommend the categories should be organised? Is there someone else who should be in the discussion? Is there a better place for the discussion? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 21:37, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
@Eddaido: Well, if that happens, we'll deal with it. :) But from my experience here in Commons, if we do everything with logic and reasonably sourced, generally we do not attract any problems.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
@Eddaido: If you like to deal with classic and vintage cars as well, probably I'll ask your help while classifying some automobiles from the classic car shows and parades here at Madeira Isl., that I plan to upload.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:45, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Eddaido (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2017 (UTC) on a small island in the South Pacific
- Now,question one. What is this vehicle? To my mind it is a stagecoach or just possibly a Park Drag (private coach or Recreational Vehicle) and not a mail coach nor is it a Carriage even in Catalonia. What do you think? Eddaido (talk) 08:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- It Has to be a Park Drag by the date 1880-1900 and might even be the vehicle here but what is this French Mail name? Eddaido (talk) 08:46, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: This vehicle - I would say it's indeed one of those revivalist park drags, almost certainly. Notice the umbrella box on the side, as well as the big side lantern, both seem to be lacking on true stage coaches. I would never classify it as a mail coach, without a clear indication of that (such as a mail service sign). But it's a carriage, of course, in the broad definition of the term (which can even encompass chariots and horse drawn litters, according to some treaties). This photo has been taken in what seems to be a coach & horse parade at the Bois de Bologne (Paris). Looking at the magazine article, "le mail français" seems to mean "the french mail type coach" - there were american models there as well. Kind of a little "classic carriage" parade. At some point those coaches raced against each other, in what seemed to be the event's high point. But it's a park drag, with all certainty.-- Darwin Ahoy! 20:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- I agree but User:Charles01 seems to have a slightly different view taken from the text rather than the picture. I wonder if they can be made to fit with each other and maybe I also wonder if more thought on that is warranted. Why does Category:Litters (vehicle) feed into Category:Taxi vehicles? I think that is plain wrong but I see you have had the chance to amend it and you've not done so. Eddaido (talk) 10:57, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: What does Charles01 say about that? As for Category:Litters (vehicle) feeding into Category:Taxi vehicles, no ideia (*blank*). Probably it was there already, and I never messed up with it, as I don't really know what is supposed to be a "taxi vehicle". But I suspect it is correct, as litters, by their own definition, can't be driven by the ones being carried on them.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:16, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- Charles01 linguist with many other talents and things to recommend him does not comment on categorisations (early trauma?) but here are his thoughts on his talk page. Thanks for giving me a useful insight into litters I must give the taxi matter more thought. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 01:04, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: What does Charles01 say about that? As for Category:Litters (vehicle) feeding into Category:Taxi vehicles, no ideia (*blank*). Probably it was there already, and I never messed up with it, as I don't really know what is supposed to be a "taxi vehicle". But I suspect it is correct, as litters, by their own definition, can't be driven by the ones being carried on them.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:16, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- I agree but User:Charles01 seems to have a slightly different view taken from the text rather than the picture. I wonder if they can be made to fit with each other and maybe I also wonder if more thought on that is warranted. Why does Category:Litters (vehicle) feed into Category:Taxi vehicles? I think that is plain wrong but I see you have had the chance to amend it and you've not done so. Eddaido (talk) 10:57, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: This vehicle - I would say it's indeed one of those revivalist park drags, almost certainly. Notice the umbrella box on the side, as well as the big side lantern, both seem to be lacking on true stage coaches. I would never classify it as a mail coach, without a clear indication of that (such as a mail service sign). But it's a carriage, of course, in the broad definition of the term (which can even encompass chariots and horse drawn litters, according to some treaties). This photo has been taken in what seems to be a coach & horse parade at the Bois de Bologne (Paris). Looking at the magazine article, "le mail français" seems to mean "the french mail type coach" - there were american models there as well. Kind of a little "classic carriage" parade. At some point those coaches raced against each other, in what seemed to be the event's high point. But it's a park drag, with all certainty.-- Darwin Ahoy! 20:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
I think litters are (not taxis but) carriages. They are used to carry people around. A carriage is a litter with wheels holding up the (handles).
Another topic Category:Horse-drawn litters. A horse-drawn litter has the front end of the poles where a rider's boots might be and the back end of the poles dragging along the ground. A pre-motor ambulance arrangement. The litters or palanquins in the illustrations (not sedan chairs where the rider sits up as if in a normal chair but) with squatting or reclining or horizontal passengers are being carried by the animals, not drawn. Thinking.
Hmmm, human-powered litters —> animal-powered litters. Would that fit? Eddaido (talk) 09:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
@DarwIn: Is there a more suitable place for me to put up my doubts for discussion? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 03:37, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi @Eddaido: (also pinging Charles01) - About the "societée des guides": It was a Parisian aristocratic club of coach enthusiasts - See here and here. I believe we can say, with all certainty, that the vehicle displayed here in one of their meetings in what seems to be Le Bois de Boulogne is actually a drag, styled after the old mail coaches (thus the name: "Le mail français"). This can be confirmed here at the description of a 1902 event of "Les Guides" where there's a kind of race between eleven "mails", all of them obviously drags belonging to the aristocrats, whose names are then enunciated. (lots of nice photos on that blog to bring here to Commons, BTW).
- As for the animal-powered litters, that sound perfectly fine to me, that's a self descriptive and useful name for that category.-- Darwin Ahoy! 17:20, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Darwin, hoje "baixei" 12 imagens, onze são minhas mas uma outra [[[:File:BalldalePoliceStation.jpg]], é de cerca 1920, poderia ser "copiada". Eu entendo pouco de licenças, se você acharem que não é permitido .... apaguem. Abs DARIO SEVERI (talk) 11:13, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- @DARIO SEVERI: Oi Dário! Muito obrigado por suas fotos, são fantásticas! A foto de 1920 está sem a menor dúvida no domínio público, e a licença que usou é a correcta. Espero ver mais fotos suas por aqui! :D Abraço, -- Darwin Ahoy! 18:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Agradecimento
Olá @DarwIn: , venho agradecer-lhe por me tornar um "File movers". Além de estudar mais as regras pretendo traduzi-las para o Português. Como ainda sou iniciante, se você perceber que cometi algum erro me avise :). Obrigado Lucas.Belo (talk) 16:20, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- Olá Lucas.Belo! Eu confio em você, e não o estarei vigiando. Mas se tiver algum problema, ou alguém reclamando, e precisar de ajuda para entender a situação, é só me chamar. :) Abraço, e bom trabalho!-- Darwin Ahoy! 18:39, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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Oi DarwIn, tudo bem? Preciso da tua ajuda.
Um editor carregou uma imagem que não é minha, melhor que minha, no lugar de uma das minhas (aqui). Aparentemente é um editor bem intencionado, mas que habitualmente faz isso.... Obrigado adiantado. José Luiz disc 04:32, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Jbribeiro1: Olá, penso que está tudo OK agora: Separei os históricos e deixei uma mensagem de aviso ao outro editor. No entanto, quando fiz a moção para o novo ficheiro, esqueci-me de desmarcar a opção para propagar a renomeação pelos artigos, de modo que o que ficou lá foi a imagem dele, e não a tua. Se quiseres, posso reverter o Commons delinker, de modo a que fique como estava. Não fiz já, porque tu mesmo disseste que o ficheiro era melhor, mas posso fazer se quiseres. Abraço, -- Darwin Ahoy! 14:11, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Opa! Obrigado. Deixe como está. A imagem dele é melhor mesmo! José Luiz disc 18:20, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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