User talk:Chinakpradhan/Archive 3

Pixel hunt

Is there any software by which general public can know the pixels of an object in any image @Huntster??? Chinakpradhan (talk) 09:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I want to know the pixels of here Chinakpradhan (talk) 09:20, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of. I suppose you could crop down to just the target and get a rough estimation that way. — Huntster (t @ c) 14:46, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

There is a limit to crop like max to 2 pixels and pixels are in class of lowest pixels like 0.004-0.4pixels @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I see. Unfortunately this is not something I have experience in. I'll keep an eye out for proper software, though. — Huntster (t @ c) 18:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 00:31, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Converse on a twitter-related topic

@Huntster I got what I am maybe you also would want. Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey, that's great! And good photos. Sounds like she is someone you could open a dialogue with if ever there is another item at JPL you need a photo of. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:44, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that why I will follow her to know of her new pics Chinakpradhan (talk) 07:21, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Yep! Just remember that the license she applied to these images cannot be assumed to apply to any of her other images. Great find. — Huntster (t @ c) 13:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

full accessof here images. She only told me the lisence so i think its applicable everywhere i even asked here if i can upload in same way. @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

I can see how you might interpret her wording to be that way, but under the ideals of the precautionary principle we must conclude she was referring to the specific photographs in the conversation. It would be an assumption to apply that license to any of her photos, since she might post something personal and unrelated to spaceflight that she would not intend for release under a free license. If you see something of interest in the future, just ask for permission as you did last time. It's the proper and polite thing to do. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:44, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster I think asking her everytime is too annoying to anyone. (like she would say, "offah this chinak came to ask me the same thing again."Hi maam can i upload this pic to commons if you allow"!!".) Too much asking a busy person like jpl employee will give me just, 'lost faith and get a twitter block". To avoid i asked her. (kbow the converse is going big here too) Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

File:Telescopes observing Dart's impact.jpg

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Ixfd64 (talk) 20:14, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

For your Ingenuity collection

Hi, Chinakpradhan! Just for your collectionː Ingenuity X ZR0 0569 13h41m35s (cropout).png. The idea itself was caught here. Althought the quality at this distance is doubtful, the Perseverance → Ingenuity photos are a very rare occasion. The last time when we tried to figure out where's Ingenuity dates back to the South Seitah travel )). — Cheers,Cherurbino (talk) 18:32, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

And i recently found a fabric from edl parachute debris stuck in ingenuity's leg that fell mid flight @Cherurbino. see ithere and here.Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:37, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I've already heard about this issue. Unhappily, the evaluation period of my animation compiler is over, and I cannot compile b/w animations as before. In another circumstances I would certainly notice this piece of fabric on one of the legs.

Also I've drawn a new route map for my article, here it is - Ingenuity flights along the delta front.png. — Cherurbino (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/mission/status/408/a-broken-rock-wont-break-our-team/ offah the target name is my wikipedia id "Chiniak" @Cherurbino @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:05, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Twins! — Huntster (t @ c) 03:59, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

:D

Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:07, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Whats the solution

see this once @Huntster. My biggest fear is here. The creditenal of images is Credit:ASI/NASA. my fear is Liciacube is now an independent sat from dart but it will be total italian space agency's probe. So we wont have images of plume 165s after impact during its flyby as we dont have asi lisense. esa robotic lisence is maybe inapplicable here, though asi(i dont know correctly) is a subordinate of esa, isnt it?? Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

So bad luck only reversed if we get some images like the boeing properitary images of nasa or like the way nasa buys spacex's nasa livestream or images from the livestream or nasa kennedy flickr buys free cc of spacex. Is there a possibility of that?? The problem is in getting this is that liciacube is under 0 influence of nasa now, except for getting signals at DSN. Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

ASI is the independent space agency of Italy, and is not part of ESA. LICIACube was built for and is operated by the ASI. Unless they come to some working agreement with NASA (and I see no reason why they would), then we're out of luck for images produced by that spacecraft.

Also, I must correct you on one point: NASA does not "buy" SpaceX's livestream. They merely rebroadcast what SpaceX produces. Unfortunately folks take NASA's broadcast of SpaceX material to indicate it is without copyright, which is absolutely wrong. Neither is SpaceX or Boeing or whatever material reposted to some other Flickr stream or NASA page somehow without copyright unless the company themselves have released it as such. A copyrighted work does not lose its copyright simply because NASA reproduces it. — Huntster (t @ c) 18:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok and so the case remains that @Huntster no image of dart mission after T-2s of impact of dart (last Draco image (Draco is the only Lorri based cam on dart that will eventually by destroyed on dart's impact)) because asi credits as "ASI/NASA". unless there are some free cc images (which asi won't) or some other sort of nasa help, no more images at Wikipedia. Next mission Hera with Milani and Juventas is like bepicolumbo so might have some help. Chinakpradhan (talk) 01:46, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, seems like Hera will be the only opportunity for freely licensed images to be released, assuming ESA releases them under CC as they have been recently. Perhaps ASI could be convinced to release their images, or at least an image, under a compatible license, but I wouldn't hold my breath. — Huntster (t @ c) 03:49, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:24, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster looks like nasa is respecting the copyrights of the source. Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

"Other in-space observers include the Lucy spacecraft, currently cruising toward its Jupiter Trojan asteroid mission, as well as the Hubble and James Webb Space Telescopes. They will be searching for the sparking plume of dust that may rise off the surface of Dimorphos in response to the crash. Both of the great observatories will image the Didymos system beginning about 15 minutes after the impact." this will be some signs of hope. @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Yep, lot of assets will be watching this one. Can't wait for tomorrow. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:44, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Me too. I am tirelessly working for the dart and liciacube enwiki page along the way Chinakpradhan (talk) 05:21, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster will the plume be available at T+15 min mark?? for bennu, ryugu, itokawa the plume was seen for a while, for tempel 1 comet the plume was still available after 13 days. Chinakpradhan (talk) 12:16, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

It really depends on the actual composition of Dimorphos. If it's a solid chunk then the visual impact might be minimal. If it's a rubble pile like Bennu, it could be more substantial and visually longer lasting. I don't think we know enough about it yet to make a determination. AFAIK we don't even know if it's a captured object or remnants of Didymos itself. — Huntster (t @ c) 13:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

How to nomiate somwthing for media of the day. I want this File:Dart impact replay.webm when rosa can be that why not this @HuntsterChinakpradhan (talk) 09:35, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster sse this is allowed on commons or not https://twitter.com/fallingstarIfA/status/1574583529731670021 Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

1) Regarding MotD, the link is COM:MOTD. I don't know what criteria exists for including there, and there are no instructions that I can find. I believe you can just take the next available empty space, but perhaps you should reach out to some of the frequent contributors there and ask their advice. There might be some (to me) unknown process.

2) Regarding ATLAS, I cannot find a proper data use or attribution notice on their website. You may want to ask them on Twitter or email info@fallingstar.com to see if they are operating under NASA public domain or not. I suspect they aren't, but doesn't hurt to try.

3) Regarding your revert to File:Last image showing all of Dimorphos by DART.png, never ever do that again. It is the uploader's choice of composition when such a crop is made. If you want another composition or the original file, upload a separate copy of it. That's really poor etiquette. I've uploaded the full frame image to File:Last image showing all of Dimorphos by DART full frame.png for you. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 01:33, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/photos-show-drama-of-dart-asteroid-impact/ (Credit:ATLAS Project (University of Hawai`i / NASA)) (ATLAS is funded by nasa, but still confused because of University of Hawai`i) and https://twitter.com/JWSTPhotoBot/status/1575269971973885952 (for jwst i dont know the ref for jwst images, in 1st case, please tell) are two sources of dart images. think wisely and if atlas one and any of the others are allowed or not for wiki. if the process is a bit complicated for jwst image upload please show a demo for me to apply that in future. @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 07:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

one image is Image processing: Emily Lakdawalla. so is it her copyright now. Chinakpradhan (talk) 07:29, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Until and unless there is clear guidance that ATLAS images are released without copyright, we should not assume otherwise. I suspect their situation is complicated. JWST is just like Hubble; until there is a clear understanding of which agency released it (NASA or ESA) we cannot assume one way or another, and I see nothing in that image that gives an indication. — Huntster (t @ c) 13:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

this jwst image is nasa lisenced @Huntster but i font know the original website of jwst which uploaded it.Chinakpradhan (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I cannot find it right now either. Hopefully it will make its way into a NASA press release or JWST gallery soon enough. Sometimes space demands we simply be patient :D — Huntster (t @ c) 15:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes :D Chinakpradhan (talk) 15:53, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

jwst and hst @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Mangalyaan is lost @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, that's unfortunate. ISRO certainly didn't make much of it, at least internationally, as this is the first I've seen. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Some are saying that we must wait till isro says something is it right?? @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:27, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

That is very reasonable advice. Sources also say ISRO will make the announcement soon. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster i made a gif version of File:Dart impact replay.webm called File:Dart impact replay.gif for en:Deliberate crash landings on extraterrestrial bodies. i uploaded and found it to have less resolution than video now on increased resolution its not showing any preview on any page. please correct it till then i am reverting to smaller resolution version. Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

The reason the larger version doesn't animate in thumbnails is because the software has an overall rendering limit of 100 million pixels per animation. 1200(width) x 1080(height) x 273(frames) = 353,808,000 pixels. You'll want to create a frameless gif that is 630x567, which would have a total pixel count of 97,518,330 and is the highest resolution that divides evenly. I would also suggest slowing the animation down a little bit so it's easier to watch. — Huntster (t @ c) 12:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster who wants a fast version. I my self went on twitter and after a talk slowed down File:Tianhe solar array deployment.gif. I made a fast version so that it can be atleast comparable to even faster File:ITS Impact.gif, there they have resized images. Chinakpradhan (talk) 14:18, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the speed of the Tianhe graphic is just about perfect. It is fast enough that it doesn't take a long time to play but slow enough that the movement isn't jarring. The ITS Impact gif is, honestly, very disorienting with how fast it is. You don't have time to make out any details other than *object rushing at your face ahhhhhhh!* — Huntster (t @ c) 19:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

i imagine someone watching that page in vr set hehe @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 02:52, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Hahahahahaha! — Huntster (t @ c) 03:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

so thinking of slowing both of them. am i allowed to work on ITS Impact gif?? @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:59, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

??@Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:13, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Because it has been uploaded and used since 2010, I would not over the original file. If you wanted to upload under a different filename and link the two, there's no problem with that. — Huntster (t @ c) 14:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Also: File:Aftermath of DART Collision with Dimorphos Captured by SOAR Telescope (noirlab2223a).jpg — Huntster (t @ c) 19:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 00:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Did you know...

... that recently (sol 562) examined rock on Mars was named Chiniak? (I suppose that this image may NOT be uploaded without the explicit agreement of Phil Stooke). — Cherurbino (talk) 02:22, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

You said the same what I said you and Huntster at for your ingenuity collection, https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/mission/status/408/a-broken-rock-wont-break-our-team/ offah the target name is my wikipedia id "Chiniak" @Cherurbino and PaulHammond51 on twitter gave this pic earlier, but not about lisence, will look to get the file from him after a request. Chinakpradhan (talk) 02:34, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

but the thumb rule is try your homework instead of copying if you are able to do it any how. here's a copy of work by phil stooke made by me @Cherurbino. @Huntster is it allowed on commons ( i did each and every part of the image collaging). Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:58, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

So long as the base image is sourced to NASA, and you added the labels, then it should be fine. — Huntster (t @ c) 05:10, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

and did the collage Chinakpradhan (talk) 05:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

File:Mars Perseverance ZL0 0582 0718610503 988EBY N0290000ZCAM08599 1100LMJ.png is ready @Cherurbino. Chinakpradhan (talk) 05:43, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

alternatively File:All drilled holes on mars by perseverance.png @Cherurbino Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

this only lacks astah sample that was not taken by rover due to wrongly sent commands that sol. Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:12, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

However, however Paul told we are wrong. the following is on the footer of every post by Phil on UMSF

NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) @CherurbinoChinakpradhan (talk) 09:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

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Sorry I did not notice your information by that time. I still have not fully recovered after my summer cerebral attack which affected my vision. Cherurbino (talk) 08:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

ːAlso, twitter is blocked by the Russian government, so I cannot access any links to it for many months. VPN's are also outlawed and I do not try to break the laws. Anyway thank you for these links to twitter. However, some accounts at fosstodon are helpful to some extent. Cherurbino (talk) 09:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

he is the same paul i talked of here of being at twitter @Cherurbino Chinakpradhan (talk) 09:36, 20 October 2022 (UTC)