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Mr. Gibbs:
Good afternoon. Take us away.

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The Press:
What was the President's
reaction to the arrest yesterday

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of the suspected Russian spies?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm just going to
leave this at -- I mean,

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obviously the President
was fully and

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appropriately informed.

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This was a law
enforcement action,

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and law enforcement
acted appropriately.

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And he did not have a personal
reaction that I know of.

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The Press:
Was he aware of the
possibility of these arrests

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before yesterday, or was
yesterday the first time that --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, he was -- he's been briefed
on this a number of times.

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The Press:
Going back how far?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not something I'm
going to get specific on.

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The Press:
And this comes, obviously,
less than a week after the

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meetings here with Medvedev.

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Is there any concern that this
hurts the chances of resetting

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this relationship, given that
there are allegations that the

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Russians were spying against us?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, look, I think that if
you -- I do not believe

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that this will affect the reset
of our relationship with Russia.

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We have made great progress
in the past year and a half,

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working on issues of mutual
concern from a New START treaty

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to working together on things
like in the United Nations

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dealing with North
Korea and Iran.

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So I do not think that this
will affect those relations.

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The Press:
And if I could just ask
about McChrystal quickly,

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has there been any decision made
on whether he is going to be

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allowed to retire
as a four-star?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, as you know, General
McChrystal, I think,

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alerted the Pentagon
yesterday that he would

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be leaving active duty.

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As you also know, he has
not been in the position,

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a four-star position long enough
to retire as a four-star.

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The President believes -- and
has talked with Secretary Gates

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about this -- and we will do
whatever is necessary to ensure

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that he, somebody who has served
the country as ably as he has,

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can retire at a four-star level.

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The Press:
So you will try to allow
him to retire as a four-star?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, absolutely.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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The Press:
Robert, does the White House
support removing the bank tax

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from the financial regulation
bill in order to gain 60 votes?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Jeff, obviously we are
working with the conferees

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on removing any hurdles to
passage of strong financial

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reform legislation, which
we're on the cusp of doing.

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So I would leave it at we're
working with them to ensure that

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we have 60 votes to move
this legislation forward.

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The Press:
Do you see that tax as
one of the hurdles that

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could be removed?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, obviously that's
certainly a discussion

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that is going on amongst
those on Capitol Hill.

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The Press:
And if those on Capitol
Hill went that way,

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is that something that
you would support?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, we're working
with them to look for any

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solution that might be needed.

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The Press:
And on climate change today,
after the meeting the statement

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said that the President was open
to other approaches aside from

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putting a price on carbon
to get several different

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goals like reducing U.S.
dependence on foreign oil.

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What other approaches would
he be open to specifically?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I don't want
to narrow or open up our

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legislative bidding
from up here.

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The President reiterated his
position that putting a price

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on carbon, he believes,
is the right policy.

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I think science has shown
why that's important.

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I do think that you had a
bipartisan group of legislators

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here who understand the need to
move this legislation forward

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and get something
done this year.

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And I think the President was
hopeful after that meeting that

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we can find common ground on
a lot of different subjects.

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The Press:
And does he think that
the legislation can be

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passed this year?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Yes, Ann.

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The Press:
Tom Balanoff is a local
labor leader in Chicago

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and in testimony today at the
Blagojevich trial he talks about

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a phone call that he got from
Barack Obama on Monday evening

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before the Tuesday election, at
which he quotes Mr. Obama as

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saying that he thinks Valerie
Jarrett should be a United

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States senator, that
she fits the criteria;

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"I would prefer that she remain
working for President Obama,

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but she does want
to be Senator."

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And Balanoff said he told the
soon-to-be President, "I said,

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'Thank you, I'm going
to reach out to Governor

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Blagojevich with that.'"

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Did the President
make that phone call?

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Mr. Gibbs:
You're telling me
about this testimony.

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I'm not going to get into
commenting on obviously

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an ongoing trial.

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And I have had not had an
opportunity to see that.

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The Press:
But you've said before that
the President did not get

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involved with the
suggestions or the

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conversations with Blagojevich.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Ann, I'm just not going
to get into commenting

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on an ongoing trial. Dan.

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The Press:
Yes, Robert, when the
President met with President

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Medvedev, did they discuss
at all the Russian spy ring?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No.

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The Press:
And can you tell us anything
more about the President's

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speech on Thursday
on immigration?

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What will be the main message
and who will it be aimed at?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, as you know,

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the President met with groups
that believe, as he does,

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yesterday that a comprehensive
solution to immigration has to

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be sought and passed.

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Obviously the President has
worked on that for many years.

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He has additional meetings
on that topic today,

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and will reiterate again his
desire to move forward on that

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comprehensive reform, that we
can't have -- as we have seen,

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we cannot have immigration
reform passed individually

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by each state through
a patchwork of laws.

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So he will reiterate
that, and, Dan,

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will certainly take the
opportunity to reiterate

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that what in the past has been
something that members of both

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parties have worked on,
that one party alone cannot

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solve this problem.

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Only with Republican support can
-- and that Republican support

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has certainly been there
in the past -- only with

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Republican support can we
move forward on immigration.

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Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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On financial reform, how
confident is the President that

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he is going to get the 60 votes?

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And does he think he could have
it on his desk by July 4th,

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as they had originally hoped?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, we -- Chip, our
hope is to get this done

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as quickly as possible.

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I do think, whether or not it
is done by the end of this week,

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obviously there are some
logistical hurdles that

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are going to have to be
met in order to do that.

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I will say that if you go back
to January or even many of the

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months between January and now,
there was always a question as

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to whether this was
going to get done.

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I don't think there is
a question now whether

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it will get done.

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It will either get done more
likely the week -- the next

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week that they're
back than this week,

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but the President will very
shortly sign comprehensive

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financial reform legislation
that puts in place rules that

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prevent the type of activity and
the type of effect that happened

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in September of 2008 from
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The Press:
And has the President had
-- reached out to or had any

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conversations with any of the
Republicans who they hope to --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Let me check and see the last
time he made -- has made calls.

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The Press:
And if I could ask a quick
question on -- there's confusion

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over the $100 million fund
in the Gulf right now.

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Ken Feinberg said yesterday
that the White House and BP had

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agreed to give him jurisdiction
over claims from individuals and

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businesses harmed by the
six-month moratorium.

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In fact, he said he was
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that was the case.

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Then we contacted him today
about that and he put out a

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statement saying until it is
determined who will hold the

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$100 million, it is unclear who
will oversee and process the

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individual moratorium claims.

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Can you clarify this?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Let me -- I was -- my
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the first statement that he --
that was money that was to be

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dispersed by him was not
the way I understood it.

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But given the fact that there
is confusion on that level,

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let me take that question
and I will get an answer

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around in our transcript.

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The Press:
And is there any confusion
on the $20 billion?

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Is it still the case that the
$20 billion is not for people

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affected by the moratorium?

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's my understanding, right.

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That's my understanding. Chuck.

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The Press:
A few follow-ups -- one, did
the President know about this

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Russian spy deal before
he met with Medvedev?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

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The Press:
Okay, that wasn't --
that wasn't the hard one.

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So he did know about it.

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Second, on fin reg, if you
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is this something you will
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if it does not --
it's not a part of --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, the President outlined in
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earlier in the year the need
to repay the taxpayers fully

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for the Troubled
Asset Relief Program.

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So this does not close
the door on that.

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The Press:
So if it's not in
here, you could --

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Mr. Gibbs:
It doesn't close the door on
doing that at a later date.

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The Press:
On energy, can you make an
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carbon without it looking like
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Mr. Gibbs:
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I mean, obviously there are a
number of different ways that

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you can -- and I'm not an
expert on all of the different

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proposals that are in front of
the Senate right now in terms of

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how -- of how one -- each of the
proposals and how they do it.

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I will say this, Chuck, we
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President has met with a
countless number of CEOs over

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the past many months that
discussed the need for greater

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certainty in how they do
business that have advocated

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this type of approach.

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So obviously there are a number
of different ways to do it.

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I think the President felt
encouraged by the meeting in

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trying to move all of
these proposals forward.

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The Press:
Can you say definitively --
now on the oil spill -- can you

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say definitively that you guys
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request that's been made
by all four states that

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are affected right now?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, we are -- look, there's --
there are -- one of the things

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that's happened most recently,

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there are for clean water -- for
sites that are governed by the

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Clean Water Act, there are
certain federal and state

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requirements to have response
capabilities on hand in the

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event that something
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We have asked on an emergency
basis that some of these rules

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be waived.

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The Press:
And have they been?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

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The Press:
We're not waiting on a
rule to be waived right now?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, we're -- look, obviously

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some of these are governed by
individual rules at facilities.

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We have begun to -- we've waived
at a number of those places,

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and I can try to find the
specific numbers in order to

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move greater skimming
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understanding that, Chuck, this
is not -- these are vessels that

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are at a facility based on the
requirements in the law that we

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have the capability at a
facility to deal with any

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type of emergency.

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So we understand right now it is
more imperative that they be in

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the Gulf, understanding that we
are assuming some amount of risk

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in doing that now.

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The Press:
So what you're saying is there
are some boats that could be

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skimming that you're not sending
over because you need to keep a

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minimum amount on hand?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, no.

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What I'm saying is we are
waiving those rules to move

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additional skimming capability
to the Gulf, understanding that --

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The Press:
But you've fulfilled every
request for skimmers that every

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state has asked for?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can check on what
the exact numbers are.

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Also understand, too, Chuck,
that as the -- very early on,

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we were asked sort of
how does the -- this looks

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different or there's different
characteristics than sort of

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something that happened
in Alaska for the Valdez.

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Because right now, and I think
you can see this in news

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coverage, and I'm sure your
reporters on the ground will

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tell you -- you guys probably
saw this when we were down there

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-- there is not -- there
isn't just one slick, right?

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There are smaller slicks of
oil identified by planes,

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radioed to boats, skimmers
sent to intercept those

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pockets of oil.

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And we're at a point in which
obviously different capabilities

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are called on based on the
characteristics of the spill

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having changed some as well.

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It's not one mass of
oil; it's many, many --

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The Press:
Why are we hearing from
local leaders that there

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are not enough skimmers, there
are not enough skimmers?

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Where do you think
that's coming from?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think that's
coming from the fact that this

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is an unprecedented emergency.

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We have -- we worked early on
to -- and many states -- I will

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say, many states updated their
response plans after this

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happened, because -- for
instance, the boom requirements.

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Those are plans that are put in
place by the states to what they

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think they need.

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I don't know whether skimmers
are in those ACPs or not.

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But obviously as the depth of
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length of the
response has gone on,

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those plans have been augmented
and we will continue to move as

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much -- as many additional
skimming capabilities as we can

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down to that region.

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Yes, ma'am.

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The Press:
Ahead of the energy meeting
today, the White House said

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that the goal was to find --
figure out where the common

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ground was on
energy legislation.

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Afterwards Senators Lieberman
and Kerry said that there was

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consensus to do a
price on carbon,

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though perhaps not economy-wide,
but modified in some version.

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Is that also the White House
view of where the consensus was,

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and is that where you
think this is headed now?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't -- look, obviously
Senator Reid is going to figure

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out the vehicle that
moves in the Senate.

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I wouldn't disagree, obviously,
with what Senators Kerry and

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Lieberman said as some of their
takeaway from that meeting.

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The Press:
So, I mean, was that the
takeaway from the White House's

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point of view that this
is where the consensus is?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, I think that's -- look,

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I think many people can take
many different things away.

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I think one of the things the
President took away was the

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encouraging notion that we can
move forward and get something

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done this year.

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The Press:
Robert, can you say how
often Ben Bernanke briefs the

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President on a -- at an
economic daily briefing?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't have all of
that in front of me, Mark.

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He has been over
here on occasion.

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He was over here today to speak
about where we're headed in

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financial reform and
where we are in the

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arc of our economic recovery.

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The Press:
Is it infrequent
rather than frequent?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, I don't have the
stats in front of me to the

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degree to which -- how many
times the President has talked

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to him or not.

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The Press:
Can you tell us about
the town meeting tomorrow?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We'll have more
information a bit later today.

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The focus of the President's
remarks before the town hall

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meeting will be on the economy.

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The Press:
And on the Gulf, is the
President and Vice President

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going to alternate
visits to the Gulf?

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Is that what today was about?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, look, obviously
the Vice President is in

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Louisiana and will go to
Pensacola later in the day.

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Obviously many in the
Cabinet have been down

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there quite a bit.

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I don't know when the
President's next trip would be,

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but, look, the Vice President
felt it important to go down and

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both see and hear firsthand from
state and local officials as

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well as Admiral Allen and those
on the ground responding to this

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disaster to see where we are.

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Obviously Secretary Napolitano
and Carol Browner were in the

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region yesterday as --
wrapping up some meetings

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that staff were down there
for throughout the weekend.

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The Press:
Worried about the storm?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Absolutely.

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I mean, obviously the -- I know
Secretary Napolitano spoke with

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the governor of Texas today
about upcoming preparations

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for the storm.

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I think many of you all have
talked to folks here and in the

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Gulf about preparations that
have to be taken in the event

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that a storm more closely
comes into the area.

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And in preparation for the
possibility of this a few days

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ago, obviously equipment was
taken off of the Enterprise,

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which I think Thad Allen said
yesterday would delay the next

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step in the containment, which
is a helix device that will

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increase our capability off of
the second line coming up from

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-- in addition to the top hat.

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So obviously preparations
are being made.

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A plan is in place in the event
that vessels have to be moved,

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people have to be evacuated.

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And obviously we continue on
the long-term steps through the

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drilling of the two relief wells
to ultimately get this well

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capped, which would be a
permanent solution that we

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would not be dependent on Mother
Nature -- or I should say Mother

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Nature wouldn't dictate
what our capabilities are

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on the surface. Hans.

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The Press:
Robert, you just said you
didn't know how frequently

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Bernanke is there for
the morning eco briefing,

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but it's pretty infrequent when
the President makes a statement

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with Bernanke by his side.

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Talk to us about
the optics of that.

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What was the message there?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, again, Chairman
Bernanke was here to talk

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of several things.

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Obviously the President
concluded some important

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meetings over the weekend on
the international response to

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the economic crisis that
we've all dealt with.

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We're on the cusp of real
and genuine financial reform.

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And we are continuing to move
forward on steps like a small

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business lending facility that
action was taken in the Senate

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today to move that
proposal forward,

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on how we can continue to
make progress in our economy.

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We'll see -- it's jobs week
-- we'll see numbers at the

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end of the week.

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The Press:
But why do a statement
with Bernanke by his side?

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He rarely, if never, does that.

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What's -- I mean, does he want
the gravitas of Ben Bernanke?

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Does he want to calm markets?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think you heard him talk
about -- where we are on

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our economic recovery is
something that the President

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talks about quite frequently,
and having Chairman Bernanke

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here to discuss those other
topics seemed appropriate.

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The Press:
So it was just random that
Bernanke was there next to him?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, it wasn't
random that he was there.

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I mean, he was obviously here
to talk about the things that I

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just talked about.

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The Press:
But I still don't understand
why he was there for the public

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statement that the
President gave to us.

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Because if he's here
frequently or infrequently --

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Mr. Gibbs:
So that Bloomberg could
have exclusive access to

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the Chairman of --

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The Press:
No, I mean, it's a serious
question, you guys --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, I understand.

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The Press:
Right, I mean, you
-- I'm trying to --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I've tried to give you a
serious answer three times.

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The Press:
Well, I'm trying to understand
why the President felt that he

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needed to give a
statement on the economy,

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which he does nearly every week,
with Bernanke by his side --

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what we should read into that.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know that you
should read anything into it,

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despite my best efforts
to describe otherwise.

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Again, Chairman Bernanke
obviously, as you know,

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plays an incredibly
important role;

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has worked for the past 17
months to stabilize our

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financial system, to
speed our recovery;

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was here to meet with the
President and the economic team.

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And I want the record to reflect
this is the first time you guys

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have -- that Hans has complained
about too much access.

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The Press:
We're not complaining.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Okay, I'll -- 30 seconds
to -- no, I'm kidding.

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Go ahead.

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The Press:
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer
describes yesterday's meeting

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with federal officials about
National Guard troops going to

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the border as "very,
very disappointing."

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She says they're only getting
a fraction of the number they

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really need.

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Are the people of Arizona being
let down in this situation?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, look, the President
has made a decision to

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move 1,200 National
Guardsmen to the border,

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524 of which will be
deployed in Arizona.

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There obviously is and continues
to be extraordinary efforts that

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we're taking to secure our
border as part of the beginnings

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of comprehensive
immigration reform.

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The Press:
She said she needs
at least 3,000 troops.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, the
President has made a big

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commitment to securing the
border and to Arizona.

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The Press:
Arizona Senator Jon
Kyl continues to insist,

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despite the White House's
assurances it did not happen,

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that the President told him,
if we secure the border,

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you people -- being -- meaning
Republicans -- will not vote

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for comprehensive
immigration reform.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, Wendell, to be fair,

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this appears now to be an
argument that the senator is

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having with himself, right?

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A couple weeks ago he made
a statement that we said

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wasn't the case.

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Then I believe on Friday,
the senator said that

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wasn't the case.

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Now I think he has made a
statement saying what he

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said about it not being the
case may not now be the case.

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So I refer you, Wendell, to
his spokesperson saying at the

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beginning of this process that
there were two people involved

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in this conversation.

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It appears as if the
problem is one of them

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has three recollections.

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So I'm happy to, when Senator
Kyl decides which of the three

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stories he thinks
happened in that meeting,

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I'm happy when he comes to some
white smoke and concludes what

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his answer is on that.

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The Press:
Were you prepared
for that question?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Will you announce the new
OMB Director with white

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smoke or black smoke?

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The Press:
Once more, can we ask you
for a little bit more about

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tomorrow's town hall,
other than --

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Mr. Gibbs:
We'll have more on that
a little bit later today.

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The Press:
You can't even say who's
going to be there tomorrow?

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Is it going to be a
friendly audience?

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Have you guys chosen
who's going to be there?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We've never chosen any
of the questioners at our

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town halls that I think,
Anne, you've been coming

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to for three years.

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The Press:
Can you talk a little
about Thursday, and why now?

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Why is he giving --
we've heard him talk

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about immigration repeatedly.

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Is there going to
be anything new?

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And any news out of
the Justice Department?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, for news out of the
Justice Department I would

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direct you to them.

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In terms of -- I think, look,
this continues to be a very

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important national issue,
and will reiterate, again,

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his support for doing this
in a comprehensive way,

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but also in reiterating what he
said to the Republicans when he

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visited the Senate caucus.

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He cannot do this alone.

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He worked in 2005 and in 2006
with senators from across the

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aisle in making comprehensive --
in trying to make comprehensive

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immigration reform
the law of the land.

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The only way we're going to do
that now is to do that working

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with the other
side of the aisle.

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The Press:
So this will be a
reiteration, largely.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Largely, yes.

464
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,070
The Press:
Robert, in the past when
Russian spies have been caught

465
00:25:36,066 --> 00:25:38,366
in the United States, the United
States has registered its

466
00:25:38,367 --> 00:25:41,067
displeasure with this in some
diplomatic form or another.

467
00:25:41,066 --> 00:25:43,066
When Robert Hanssen
was arrested,

468
00:25:43,066 --> 00:25:46,736
the United States government
kicked out 50 Russian diplomats.

469
00:25:46,734 --> 00:25:48,234
Are you all contemplating
anything like that?

470
00:25:48,233 --> 00:25:51,203
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, obviously I'd point
you to the Department of

471
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,030
State about the conversations
that have taken place and

472
00:25:54,033 --> 00:26:00,663
continue to take place between
State Department officials and

473
00:26:00,667 --> 00:26:02,297
Russian officials.

474
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:06,070
The Press:
Do you find this to be
something that is offensive,

475
00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:08,266
or simply business as usual?

476
00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:15,066
Mr. Gibbs:
Look, obviously this is
something that was --

477
00:26:15,066 --> 00:26:19,466
that is important and was
treated as such yesterday.

478
00:26:19,467 --> 00:26:22,667
The Press:
Can you -- I'm sorry, can you
elaborate a little bit, though?

479
00:26:22,667 --> 00:26:25,737
I mean, the President did just
invite the President of Russia

480
00:26:25,734 --> 00:26:29,464
here to visit with him
-- brought him for burgers

481
00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:30,397
and the whole bit.

482
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,130
There's no --

483
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:36,963
Mr. Gibbs:
Peter, I really do
not want to get into

484
00:26:36,967 --> 00:26:39,497
talking about active law
enforcement investigations

485
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,470
or intelligence matters.

486
00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:43,437
The Press:
Well, but it's also about
the relationship between two

487
00:26:43,433 --> 00:26:45,903
countries, and you don't find
it offensive that this other

488
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,300
country you're trying to build a
new relationship with is still

489
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:49,230
spying on you?

490
00:26:49,233 --> 00:26:54,803
Mr. Gibbs:
I said that -- I said
earlier that I did not think

491
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,370
that this would affect our moves
to reset the relationship,

492
00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:02,667
and we believe that.

493
00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:04,967
The Press:
Do they have license to
do whatever they want

494
00:27:04,967 --> 00:27:06,397
without any consequences?

495
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,330
Mr. Gibbs:
Obviously that's not the case,

496
00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:12,733
because there were multiple
arrests that were made.

497
00:27:12,734 --> 00:27:15,634
The Press:
Robert, thank you.

498
00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:16,903
The Press:
Stay on the same subject.

499
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:18,370
The Press:
All right.

500
00:27:18,367 --> 00:27:20,867
The Press:
About -- about, yes, about --

501
00:27:20,867 --> 00:27:23,337
Mr. Gibbs:
He had a feeling you might
not ask about the economy.

502
00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:26,133
The Press:
Well, I'll ask about the economy,

503
00:27:26,133 --> 00:27:28,333
but next time if you
give me the question.

504
00:27:28,333 --> 00:27:30,233
(laughter)

505
00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:31,403
Mr. Gibbs:
You should take it
up with Mark later,

506
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,730
because he might seek
to reclaim his time.

507
00:27:33,734 --> 00:27:37,434
The Press:
All right, this one,
this one, I want to

508
00:27:37,433 --> 00:27:39,103
stick with this subject.

509
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,770
The timing -- the timing.

510
00:27:40,767 --> 00:27:44,567
Was the President completely
satisfied by whoever organized

511
00:27:44,567 --> 00:27:49,367
the operation this week that
this was the time that it needed

512
00:27:49,367 --> 00:27:51,197
to be done, right
after the summit?

513
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,630
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, again, I'm
not going to get into the

514
00:27:53,633 --> 00:27:57,803
specifics of discussing the law
enforcement or the intelligence

515
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,030
portions of this.

516
00:27:59,033 --> 00:28:00,103
The Press:
I'm just saying, the President --

517
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:01,100
Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, I understand.

518
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:01,770
Let me finish my answer.

519
00:28:01,767 --> 00:28:05,167
This was an action that was
taken by law enforcement,

520
00:28:05,166 --> 00:28:11,266
handled that way,
handled appropriately,

521
00:28:11,266 --> 00:28:14,496
and done in a timely manner. So --

522
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:15,930
The Press:
The Russians --

523
00:28:15,934 --> 00:28:17,264
Mr Gibbs:
Good luck trying to get --

524
00:28:17,266 --> 00:28:18,496
(laughter)

525
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:22,900
The Press:
I feel obliged, since
I'm the only Russian here,

526
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,100
to raise the point --

527
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:31,630
(laughter)

528
00:28:31,633 --> 00:28:33,303
Mr. Gibbs:
Now I'm like the straight
man for a bunch of people

529
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:37,070
standing on the side.

530
00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:39,566
The Press:
But I am the only
official Russian here.

531
00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:40,897
(laughter)

532
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:45,870
And as such, I want to raise
the point that is being raised

533
00:28:45,867 --> 00:28:49,837
by my government officials
who say this is a deliberate

534
00:28:49,834 --> 00:28:54,164
attempt to undermine, frankly,
the President's policies,

535
00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:56,466
and some people even say
the President himself.

536
00:28:56,467 --> 00:28:57,467
What's your response?

537
00:28:57,467 --> 00:28:59,297
Mr. Gibbs:
The President of Russia, I
assume you're talking about.

538
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,730
The Press:
The President of the United
States and his policy of reset.

539
00:29:02,734 --> 00:29:03,664
Mr. Gibbs:
Oh, well, I see.

540
00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:05,467
The Press:
You say it will not
affect the policy of reset.

541
00:29:05,467 --> 00:29:07,037
Mr. Gibbs:
This will not.

542
00:29:07,033 --> 00:29:09,333
The Press:
But what about an
attempt to do that?

543
00:29:09,333 --> 00:29:12,503
Mr. Gibbs:
I can't speak to that.

544
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:17,630
There are -- again, I described
this, I think accurately,

545
00:29:17,633 --> 00:29:23,303
as a law enforcement activity.

546
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:25,870
It was handled as such.

547
00:29:25,867 --> 00:29:28,567
It was done correctly.

548
00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:35,097
I do not -- again, I do not
believe that this will have a

549
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:36,870
great effect on our
efforts to reset our

550
00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:38,497
relationship with Russia.

551
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,600
The Press:
Just to follow up, the
President had absolutely no

552
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,570
influence over the timing of the
arrests, one way or the other?

553
00:29:44,567 --> 00:29:48,137
Mr. Gibbs:
This is -- again, this is
dictated by law enforcement.

554
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:51,433
The Press:
Was that a yes or --
that was a no, he did not?

555
00:29:51,433 --> 00:29:52,763
I want to be clear about it.

556
00:29:52,767 --> 00:29:54,137
Mr. Gibbs:
I was.

557
00:29:54,133 --> 00:29:58,663
The timing of this was
dictated by law enforcement.

558
00:29:58,667 --> 00:29:59,867
The Press:
Thank you, Robert,
just two questions.

559
00:29:59,867 --> 00:30:01,767
The Press:
No, Lester -- Lester, Lester.

560
00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:03,437
Mr. Gibbs:
I'm going to go to Mara
and then we'll -- go ahead.

561
00:30:03,433 --> 00:30:06,003
The Press:
On the Saudi visit, I'm
wondering if the President

562
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,130
plans to ask the Saudis again
for more gestures to Israel.

563
00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:12,733
He's done that in the past
-- hasn't gotten a whole lot

564
00:30:12,734 --> 00:30:13,764
of results for it.

565
00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:16,737
Mr. Gibbs:
I was not in -- Mara, I was
not in the statements that

566
00:30:16,734 --> 00:30:22,934
were just made.

567
00:30:22,934 --> 00:30:26,204
Obviously, the topic
of Middle East peace,

568
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,870
the topic of the Saudi support
of the Arab Peace Initiative --

569
00:30:31,867 --> 00:30:35,137
all of those topics --
again, I was not in there,

570
00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:37,963
but I know those did come up.

571
00:30:37,967 --> 00:30:45,067
And I know that the President
reiterated his desire to push

572
00:30:45,066 --> 00:30:48,296
for this comprehensive peace.

573
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:53,400
And obviously we've got Prime
Minister Netanyahu coming soon

574
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,530
as well to continue
to make progress.

575
00:30:56,533 --> 00:30:59,763
The Press:
But should we assume that he
still wants the Saudis to make

576
00:30:59,767 --> 00:31:02,497
the same -- the gestures
he asked them to earlier

577
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:03,630
in the administration?

578
00:31:03,633 --> 00:31:05,003
Mr. Gibbs:
And, again, I was not in there.

579
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,500
But the readout I got was that
the Saudis reiterated their

580
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,370
support for the Arab
Peace Initiative,

581
00:31:10,367 --> 00:31:14,737
which is an important
aspect of it. Yes, sir.

582
00:31:14,734 --> 00:31:17,864
The Press:
Robert, does the President
hold open the possibility for

583
00:31:17,867 --> 00:31:19,997
passage of immigration
reform this year,

584
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,630
given that we don't have a
single Republican co-sponsor

585
00:31:22,633 --> 00:31:24,633
and no legislative
language in the Senate?

586
00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:29,363
Mr. Gibbs:
Obviously there are proposals
that are being worked on.

587
00:31:29,367 --> 00:31:36,067
Peter, that's a better question
for Republicans that have

588
00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:42,366
believed this was an important
issue when they were in power.

589
00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:46,197
It is no less an important issue
now that there is a Democrat in

590
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,670
the White House.

591
00:31:47,667 --> 00:31:50,997
And the President will
continue to work with

592
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,070
anybody that desires to
work with he and others

593
00:31:55,066 --> 00:31:56,636
on a comprehensive solution.

594
00:31:56,633 --> 00:31:59,363
The Press:
Is he actively making
calls to Republicans to

595
00:31:59,367 --> 00:32:01,197
try to round up support?

596
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,030
Mr. Gibbs:
He made calls -- I don't
remember the exact timing

597
00:32:06,033 --> 00:32:11,763
of this -- obviously reached out
to I think half a dozen folks

598
00:32:11,767 --> 00:32:15,937
not too long ago on this topic.

599
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:16,764
Margaret.

600
00:32:16,767 --> 00:32:17,937
The Press:
Thanks.

601
00:32:17,934 --> 00:32:20,864
When the senators came out
of the energy meeting today,

602
00:32:20,867 --> 00:32:22,537
I believe it was Senator
Lieberman who talked about

603
00:32:22,533 --> 00:32:26,863
the President's belief that
this legislation should be the

604
00:32:26,867 --> 00:32:30,237
legislative vehicle for all of
the -- for some of the BP stuff

605
00:32:30,233 --> 00:32:31,333
or all of the BP stuff.

606
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:35,263
Can you just clarify what oil --
what BP-related stuff would be

607
00:32:35,266 --> 00:32:37,266
on the energy bill and what
you're willing to separate?

608
00:32:37,266 --> 00:32:41,736
Mr. Gibbs:
Let me -- I did not hear
that portion of Senator

609
00:32:41,734 --> 00:32:46,964
Lieberman's thing,
but let me find out.

610
00:32:46,967 --> 00:32:49,467
The Press:
It's hard to ask follow-up
questions in the atmosphere.

611
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:51,837
The Press:
Can you at least tell us what
the President said in that

612
00:32:51,834 --> 00:32:52,964
meeting about BP?

613
00:32:52,967 --> 00:32:54,737
Mr. Gibbs:
I was not in the
meeting, but, again,

614
00:32:54,734 --> 00:33:01,764
I will clarify what part of --
whether energy legislation that

615
00:33:01,767 --> 00:33:03,697
will move through the Senate, I
think you're asking me is the

616
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,730
vehicle for some of the changes
that we have sent up and some

617
00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:09,704
changes obviously proposed
by others in dealing with --

618
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,000
The Press:
Is the effort to link it so that
people feel obliged to vote for

619
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,730
it, or are there some things
you're willing to separate

620
00:33:13,734 --> 00:33:15,164
because they need
to be passed --

621
00:33:15,166 --> 00:33:21,136
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, on a number of
occasions there have been --

622
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:24,103
Senator Menendez has on a number
of occasions brought up lifting

623
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:28,470
the liability cap, which
obviously we're -- we've

624
00:33:28,467 --> 00:33:34,067
made significant progress on
with the BP escrow account.

625
00:33:34,066 --> 00:33:43,166
But there certainly have been
attempts at doing this in a

626
00:33:43,166 --> 00:33:48,466
standalone way or doing this
as an amendment to a piece of

627
00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:49,837
legislation that's
being considered.

628
00:33:49,834 --> 00:33:51,604
The Press:
It sounded like he was talking
about -- like he knew something.

629
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,570
I just wasn't clear what --

630
00:33:52,567 --> 00:33:55,337
Mr. Gibbs:
Let me check with those guys.

631
00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:56,133
April.

632
00:33:56,133 --> 00:33:58,603
The Press:
Robert, on Elena Kagan, could
you give us a little tick-tock

633
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,370
about the President
watching her?

634
00:34:00,367 --> 00:34:01,637
We didn't have a
briefing yesterday.

635
00:34:01,633 --> 00:34:03,933
I suppose he was probably
watching some of the statements.

636
00:34:03,934 --> 00:34:06,534
And today, was he watching?

637
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:09,903
Mr. Gibbs:
I have not heard him
talk about watching.

638
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:15,900
I know he met with her briefly
before going up to the Senate,

639
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:20,330
wishing her luck
in the hearings,

640
00:34:20,333 --> 00:34:32,703
and continues to believe that
she is -- will be a very capable

641
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:37,400
Supreme Court justice, believes
that she will have the support

642
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,270
that's necessary
to be confirmed.

643
00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:45,496
And I think if you look at -- I
think -- I have not talked to

644
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,200
him about this, but I think
certainly my view of the

645
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,900
hearings is that she
is providing full,

646
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:59,500
open and forthcoming testimony
about issues in the law.

647
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:11,200
And I think, despite efforts by
others to create a pattern of

648
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:17,470
fact that doesn't exist on
military recruiting at Harvard,

649
00:35:17,467 --> 00:35:24,637
she has explained
why news accounts,

650
00:35:24,633 --> 00:35:27,233
why documents that were
released by the Pentagon,

651
00:35:27,233 --> 00:35:30,803
and why students that were at
Harvard and are now serving this

652
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:37,500
country overseas continue to
believe, as she has said,

653
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,100
that the military had full
access to the campus at Harvard.

654
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:42,530
The Press:
But do you believe that
those are legitimate

655
00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:44,003
concerns to be raised?

656
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,200
I mean, you're saying --

657
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,330
Mr. Gibbs:
I think they've been raised.

658
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:47,703
I think they've been answered.

659
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:52,430
I think there are -- look, these
are Supreme Court hearings.

660
00:35:52,433 --> 00:35:58,863
There are no shortage of
games that are being played.

661
00:35:58,867 --> 00:36:01,667
The Press:
And also, on another topic
that I continue to ask --

662
00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:03,097
the Black Farmers.

663
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:06,730
Today is June 29th,
and the 30th --

664
00:36:06,734 --> 00:36:08,634
Mr. Gibbs:
The 29th.

665
00:36:08,633 --> 00:36:10,563
The Press:
Yes, okay, good, I'm right.

666
00:36:10,567 --> 00:36:11,937
All right, June 29th,
tomorrow is the 30th.

667
00:36:11,934 --> 00:36:13,764
The deadline, again, comes --

668
00:36:13,767 --> 00:36:18,697
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, this is part of
legislation that continues to

669
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:21,700
be blocked in the Senate.

670
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:22,900
The Press:
Lieberman said it
was Republicans,

671
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:25,730
how are you going to get
Republicans to come in?

672
00:36:25,734 --> 00:36:27,764
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, we're continuing
to work with them.

673
00:36:27,767 --> 00:36:36,867
We're continuing to make
attempts to -- look,

674
00:36:36,867 --> 00:36:39,237
we were talking about
the economy earlier.

675
00:36:39,233 --> 00:36:43,503
Contained in the tax extenders
bill are tax cuts for small

676
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:48,070
businesses, tax cuts for
research and development,

677
00:36:48,066 --> 00:36:53,196
unemployment benefits for
those who as a result of

678
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,630
this recession find
themselves as part

679
00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:58,803
of the long-term unemployed.

680
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,330
I think the President has on
every one of those occasions

681
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:05,133
weighed in for the importance
of that legislation passing.

682
00:37:05,133 --> 00:37:07,203
The Press:
Is it the right economic
climate for this to happen?

683
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,430
Mr. Gibbs:
Which part?

684
00:37:08,433 --> 00:37:11,333
The Press:
The Black Farmers, the $1.25 billion.

685
00:37:11,333 --> 00:37:14,903
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, this does not depend
on the economic climate,

686
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:16,670
this is dependent
upon a settlement

687
00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:18,297
that has been reached.

688
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:19,230
Savannah.

689
00:37:19,233 --> 00:37:21,863
The Press:
Assistant Secretary of State
for European and Eurasian

690
00:37:21,867 --> 00:37:24,637
Affairs Phil Gordon said today
that President Obama said in

691
00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:28,133
this reset of the relationship
with Russia there would be areas

692
00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:31,063
of agreement and disagreement
and we should see this spying

693
00:37:31,066 --> 00:37:33,366
issue in that context.

694
00:37:33,367 --> 00:37:36,097
Does the administration
agree with that assessment?

695
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:40,600
Mr. Gibbs:
Savannah, I'd want to look
at Phil's full remarks before

696
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,200
I comment on it.

697
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,900
The Press:
Is the administration
considering any diplomatic

698
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:43,930
consequence to Russia's spying?

699
00:37:43,934 --> 00:37:45,564
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, as I said,

700
00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:50,397
there are -- I will let the
State Department read out the

701
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,200
conversations that have
been had on this issue.

702
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,100
The Press:
Well, is it being considered?

703
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:55,600
Mr. Gibbs:
The State Department
can give you that answer.

704
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,700
The Press:
Robert, just two
questions, Robert.

705
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,200
The Press:
Robert, House Minority
Leader John Boehner today

706
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,430
likened your approach to
financial regulatory reform

707
00:38:03,433 --> 00:38:06,463
to "killing an ant
with a nuclear weapon."

708
00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:08,167
Mr. Gibbs:
If I understand the
analogy correctly,

709
00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:10,796
I think it's important, Glenn,
that we understand that he

710
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:19,430
apparently believes that the
financial crisis -- I think

711
00:38:19,433 --> 00:38:23,233
the ant in that is
the financial crisis.

712
00:38:23,233 --> 00:38:27,603
Now, I don't know whether
opening one's mouth and removing

713
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,700
most of the doubt that you're
completely out of touch with

714
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:34,170
America in thinking that a
financial crisis that caused 8.5

715
00:38:34,166 --> 00:38:39,966
million jobs to be lost, the
savings of tens of millions

716
00:38:39,967 --> 00:38:44,497
of Americans wiped out
in a financial crisis,

717
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:49,670
to have lives altered forever,
to make that type of analogy I

718
00:38:49,667 --> 00:38:54,267
think demonstrates -- well, I
will say it demonstrates how out

719
00:38:54,266 --> 00:38:57,396
of touch you are currently and
it demonstrates exactly the type

720
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,070
of mindset that he
would bring to leading

721
00:39:02,066 --> 00:39:03,736
the House of Representatives.

722
00:39:03,734 --> 00:39:08,664
It's led him to oppose an
economic recovery plan that

723
00:39:08,667 --> 00:39:13,497
has grown our economy and
brought us back from the

724
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,730
brink of a Great Depression.

725
00:39:16,734 --> 00:39:25,904
It has -- he has voted against
strengthening the rules that

726
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:27,170
govern Wall Street.

727
00:39:27,166 --> 00:39:29,996
Maybe he thinks that the rules
that we had in place that caused

728
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,670
what happened in September
of 2008 are just the type of

729
00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:37,697
regulation Wall Street needs.

730
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:39,170
The President
doesn't believe that,

731
00:39:39,166 --> 00:39:41,196
and I think the majority of
Americans don't think that.

732
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,000
The Press:
One quick -- Bill Clinton
has apparently endorsed

733
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,130
Andrew Romanoff in the
Colorado Democratic primary.

734
00:39:48,133 --> 00:39:49,233
How do you respond to it?

735
00:39:49,233 --> 00:39:51,663
Are you amused,
dismayed, infuriated?

736
00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:53,097
(laughter)

737
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,100
The Press:
Those are your choices.

738
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:55,130
(laughter)

739
00:39:55,133 --> 00:39:55,863
Mr. Gibbs:
D, none of the above.

740
00:39:55,867 --> 00:39:57,337
(laughter)

741
00:39:57,333 --> 00:39:58,303
The Press:
And one last thing on that?

742
00:39:58,300 --> 00:39:59,100
Did you guys get a heads up?

743
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,030
Did you know President Clinton
was doing that, the White House?

744
00:40:01,033 --> 00:40:02,363
Mr. Gibbs:
I will check with the
political department.

745
00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:03,297
I don't know the answer.

746
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:03,900
The Press:
You did not know this?

747
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:06,100
Mr. Gibbs:
But that's not to say --

748
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,400
The Press:
Somebody in the White
House might have gotten --

749
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,300
Mr. Gibbs:
I will check.

750
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:10,470
The Press:
Will it affect the
reset with Bill Clinton?

751
00:40:10,467 --> 00:40:14,267
(laughter)

752
00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:17,336
Mr. Gibbs:
I'm going to -- I want to --
I want to, Mark, I promise.

753
00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:18,163
The Press:
Come on, come on.

754
00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:19,736
Mr. Gibbs:
But I'm not going to.
Go ahead, George.

755
00:40:19,734 --> 00:40:20,534
The Press:
Speaking of infuriated,

756
00:40:20,533 --> 00:40:23,603
I wanted to return to your
remarks on Senator Kyl.

757
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,770
Is it fair to say that the White
House was angry at the way he

758
00:40:27,767 --> 00:40:29,337
reacted after that meeting?

759
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:31,933
And is it also fair to say he's
not about to be invited back for

760
00:40:31,934 --> 00:40:32,804
any meetings soon?

761
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,700
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, he's a member of
the leadership of the Senate.

762
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,230
We'll deal with him as a member
of the leadership of the Senate.

763
00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:39,133
I don't know if it was anger.

764
00:40:39,133 --> 00:40:42,933
It was just that what
he said wasn't true.

765
00:40:42,934 --> 00:40:45,634
And then, if you -- don't
take my word for it,

766
00:40:45,633 --> 00:40:48,333
take Friday's Jon
Kyl word for it.

767
00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:50,063
Now, I can't speak to
what's happened now --

768
00:40:50,066 --> 00:40:51,466
between now and Friday.

769
00:40:51,467 --> 00:40:56,237
But even in Toronto, I
think -- I was in Toronto;

770
00:40:56,233 --> 00:40:57,303
I think many of you
were in Toronto.

771
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:05,270
We read the story that he told
an outlet that that wasn't

772
00:41:05,266 --> 00:41:06,596
exactly what he said.

773
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:12,730
So, again, I'm happy to return
to this topic if and when the

774
00:41:12,734 --> 00:41:17,564
senator from Arizona
gets his story straight.

775
00:41:17,567 --> 00:41:20,637
The Press:
Robert, just two
questions, Robert.

776
00:41:20,633 --> 00:41:22,663
The Press:
I want to repeat a question
that was asked earlier,

777
00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:24,537
because I'm not sure
I heard the answer.

778
00:41:24,533 --> 00:41:27,133
Did the President or White House
staff give any guidance as to

779
00:41:27,133 --> 00:41:28,633
the timing of these arrests?

780
00:41:28,633 --> 00:41:30,163
Mr. Gibbs:
None that I'm aware of, no.

781
00:41:30,166 --> 00:41:31,466
The Press:
They weren't -- you
weren't given any guidance?

782
00:41:31,467 --> 00:41:32,197
You didn't know about it?

783
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,970
Mr. Gibbs:
No, no, no.

784
00:41:32,967 --> 00:41:33,837
The Press:
Did you give any guidance --

785
00:41:33,834 --> 00:41:35,104
The Press:
Oh, oh, oh.

786
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,400
Mr. Gibbs:
No, no -- obviously, yes.

787
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,230
Let me -- now that the --
obviously we were aware of --

788
00:41:38,233 --> 00:41:39,303
The Press:
Then you'll come back?

789
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:45,000
Mr. Gibbs:
Obviously we did not --
I am not aware of any

790
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,770
guidance that was
given to change that.

791
00:41:46,767 --> 00:41:48,937
The Press:
So you were aware
-- hang on a minute.

792
00:41:48,934 --> 00:41:51,964
You were aware that these
arrests were going to be made,

793
00:41:51,967 --> 00:41:54,197
you just didn't know
about the timing?

794
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,670
Mr. Gibbs:
We were aware of the timing.

795
00:41:56,667 --> 00:41:57,737
The Press:
Thank you, Robert.

796
00:41:57,734 --> 00:42:04,204
Since eight members of the U.S.
Senate -- just two questions --

797
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,430
since eight members of the
U.S. Senate wrote the President

798
00:42:07,433 --> 00:42:10,063
strongly opposing the
possibility of his using

799
00:42:10,066 --> 00:42:14,336
executive power to grant amnesty
to more than 10 million illegal

800
00:42:14,333 --> 00:42:18,003
aliens in the U.S., is the
President still planning to

801
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,800
extend any such amnesty?

802
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,270
Mr. Gibbs:
Through what means
in that letter?

803
00:42:23,266 --> 00:42:25,396
The Press:
Well, he could pardon
-- he could pardon them,

804
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,300
couldn't he?

805
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:28,070
Mr. Gibbs:
But there are no
pending 10 million pardon

806
00:42:28,066 --> 00:42:28,936
requests, Lester.

807
00:42:28,934 --> 00:42:29,834
I can clear that up.

808
00:42:29,834 --> 00:42:31,634
The Press:
Okay. What is the
President's reaction --

809
00:42:31,633 --> 00:42:32,703
Mr. Gibbs:
It would be a heck of a fine.

810
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:36,330
The Press:
-- to the unanimous
jury decision in the U.S.

811
00:42:36,333 --> 00:42:39,803
District Court for eastern
Pennsylvania in support of

812
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,070
the Boy Scouts and against the
Philadelphia City Council who

813
00:42:43,066 --> 00:42:47,466
tried to bar them from their
long-time headquarters?

814
00:42:47,467 --> 00:42:48,837
Mr. Gibbs:
You're going to
find this surprising,

815
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:51,364
but I'm not aware of
the details of the case.

816
00:42:51,367 --> 00:42:54,867
The Press:
It was widely reported.

817
00:42:54,867 --> 00:42:56,437
Mr. Gibbs:
It missed my desk.
It missed my desk.

818
00:42:56,433 --> 00:43:00,663
The Press:
You don't read very much.

819
00:43:00,667 --> 00:43:01,537
Mr. Gibbs:
I think it's safe
to say, Lester,

820
00:43:01,533 --> 00:43:03,303
you and I probably don't
read the same things, yes.

821
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:04,300
Go ahead.

822
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:05,100
(laughter)

823
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,500
The Press:
Was General McChrystal
fired partly because of a very

824
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:13,230
pessimistic briefing that he
gave to NATO a few days before

825
00:43:13,233 --> 00:43:15,203
the Rolling Stone article?

826
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,030
Mr. Gibbs:
No. First of all, obviously
the President accepted General

827
00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:25,203
McChrystal's resignation last week.

828
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,500
I think General McChrystal has
always provided in the Situation

829
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:37,200
Room the best information that
he has available to him about

830
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,870
developments in Afghanistan.

831
00:43:41,867 --> 00:43:46,337
That obviously played --
whatever was said in that

832
00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:52,363
briefing played no role in the
actions that General McChrystal

833
00:43:52,367 --> 00:43:55,467
came in and provided his
resignation to the President on.

834
00:43:55,467 --> 00:43:58,937
The Press:
So this very negative
briefing that he gave to NATO

835
00:43:58,934 --> 00:44:00,904
did not play into it at all?

836
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:05,600
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, it did not
play into it at all.

837
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,630
I think it is safe that the
President has heard both

838
00:44:10,633 --> 00:44:14,833
encouraging and discouraging
news and hears that each and

839
00:44:14,834 --> 00:44:16,364
every day about Afghanistan.

840
00:44:16,367 --> 00:44:21,867
We have always said that this
was going to be quite difficult.

841
00:44:21,867 --> 00:44:29,537
So that obviously has played no
role in anything that's happened

842
00:44:29,533 --> 00:44:32,103
here, and again, I
would say to you,

843
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:36,070
going back to the
premise of your question,

844
00:44:36,066 --> 00:44:39,236
I think the events of last week
played out I think quite clearly

845
00:44:39,233 --> 00:44:45,333
for the world to see -- General
McChrystal came in and offered

846
00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:48,433
to the President, and
the President accepted,

847
00:44:48,433 --> 00:44:52,833
his resignation as our
commander in Afghanistan

848
00:44:52,834 --> 00:44:56,264
and ISAF's commander in Afghanistan.

849
00:44:56,266 --> 00:45:03,236
We sent General Petreaus
-- we sent his name up.

850
00:45:03,233 --> 00:45:06,763
His hearings are ongoing, and I
believe he will be confirmed as

851
00:45:06,767 --> 00:45:10,137
both our -- the commander of
our forces and ISAF forces,

852
00:45:10,133 --> 00:45:12,403
and will soon head
to that region.

853
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,270
The Press:
Are you concerned if General
Petreaus wants to free up the

854
00:45:17,266 --> 00:45:21,736
troops to be able to use
more force more liberally in

855
00:45:21,734 --> 00:45:28,834
Afghanistan that the ensuing
possibility of civilian

856
00:45:28,834 --> 00:45:32,504
casualties might turn
the Afghans against us?

857
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:36,600
Mr. Gibbs:
Again, I think that
I'd let General Petreaus's

858
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,330
comments on the rules of
engagement -- I'd refer

859
00:45:39,333 --> 00:45:41,463
you to what he said on that.

860
00:45:41,467 --> 00:45:44,267
Obviously anybody that is
commanding troops is going to

861
00:45:44,266 --> 00:45:54,796
take into their thought process
a lot of different aspects

862
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,430
involving rules of engagement.

863
00:45:56,433 --> 00:45:59,133
The Press:
Thank you, Robert.

864
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:02,503
During the joint press session
with President Medvedev on

865
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:06,330
Thursday, the President made
reference to the fact President

866
00:46:06,333 --> 00:46:09,163
Medvedev had opened
a Twitter account,

867
00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:12,336
and as the President
himself has one,

868
00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:15,803
that some day they would be
tweeting and possibly replace

869
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000
the red phones
that they're using.

870
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,870
Have they been in touch at all
since the events that happened

871
00:46:20,867 --> 00:46:23,097
on Saturday either by
Twitter or the phone?

872
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:24,230
Mr. Gibbs:
That was quite
the lead, wasn't it?

873
00:46:24,233 --> 00:46:26,063
(laughter)

874
00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:28,266
I'm not entirely sure
where the whole beginning

875
00:46:28,266 --> 00:46:30,996
of that was going.

876
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,770
I do not know the nature of
how many times they might have

877
00:46:35,767 --> 00:46:37,867
spoken Sunday in Toronto.

878
00:46:37,867 --> 00:46:41,737
They have not been in
touch, that I'm aware of,

879
00:46:41,734 --> 00:46:43,404
yesterday or today.

880
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,270
The Press:
Are there any red phones
in the White House?

881
00:46:45,266 --> 00:46:46,536
(laughter)

882
00:46:46,533 --> 00:46:47,633
Mr. Gibbs:
None that I have found.

883
00:46:47,633 --> 00:46:49,333
The Press:
Were you aware of the
timing -- I don't mean to

884
00:46:49,333 --> 00:46:51,133
-- just to close up one loop.

885
00:46:51,133 --> 00:46:52,903
Were you aware of the
timing of this arrest

886
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:55,630
before the Medvedev visit?

887
00:46:55,633 --> 00:46:58,863
Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know the answer to that.

888
00:46:58,867 --> 00:46:59,837
I will consult everyone's --

889
00:46:59,834 --> 00:47:01,764
The Press:
So you don't know if you
were aware of the timing of

890
00:47:01,767 --> 00:47:03,467
the arrests before
Medvedev's visit?

891
00:47:03,467 --> 00:47:04,867
Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know the answer to that.

892
00:47:04,867 --> 00:47:06,897
I will check his
Twitter account.

893
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:07,530
Thanks, guys.