File talk:Apollo13-wehaveaproblem.ogg

Captioning error

{{Edit request}} Greetings, I wish to bring your attention to a captioning error in this file. Around the 25-second mark, a four-letter expletive is placed in the mouth of an astronaut. This is a clear and blatant error: the astronaut spoke in a pregnant pause, commonly spelled as "um" and not "d--n". Now I've been following human space flight since STS-1 when I was 9 years old. Anyone who knows NASA would know that it would be highly unprofessional and unbecoming of an astronaut (or anyone on the ground) to be spewing expletives on an open and monitored channel that gets picked up by every news outlet worldwide. Astronauts and their crews are trained for grace under pressure, above all, and nobody's panicking or stressed in this conversation and had no reason to be swearing into an open mic. I'm not sure of the motivation to insert this word where it doesn't belong, but it's now on the front page of enwiki for the world to see. Elizium23 (talk) 17:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

The captions are on TimedText:Apollo13-wehaveaproblem.ogg.en.srt. That page is also protected, but it’s not that difficult to understand, so I’m removing the “technical” flag. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Is this file captioned in any non-English languages? I could not determine a method of discovery from that TimedText interface, only an enormous dropdown for selections. Elizium23 (talk) 20:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it is, see Special:PrefixIndex/TimedText:Apollo13-wehaveaproblem.ogg. (The interfaces provided by TimedText are indeed not very usable…) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

The transcript at https://www.nasa.gov/history/afj/ap13fj/08day3-problem.html at 055:56:10 doesn't include "damn" or "um" or anything. (And in brackets it does say "It is only moments later that Sy Liebergot gives a rather damning verdict on the situation.", so it probably isn't a case of the transcript being censored.) --Pokechu22 (talk) 22:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay, the expletive is also present in the German and Slovenian versions, but not the Russian (also, it's a total non-sequitir when he's describing a nominal reading!) Elizium23 (talk) 23:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done All translations are updated, including the French. Elizium23 (talk) 19:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Authorship and creator attribution

Greetings, The credits on this file indicate that the author is "Jim Lovell" and that the media was created by NASA of the USA. Is this actually true? Anyone with sufficient equipment could have recorded ground-to-space communications at the time of flight. Did NASA release this recording on their own, to the public, in some format? They certainly did not create an MP3 at the time! So someone has transformed this media to MP3 at the very least. Was it NASA? Who is the "author" and "creator" and "copyright holder" of voice communications that goes out unencrypted and broadcast to the entire space-neighborhood?

The cited URL is a non-NASA, commercial website. Did they obtain this file directly from NASA or what? Elizium23 (talk) 01:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)