File:F4 damage to the Twin Cinemas in Van Wert, Ohio.jpg

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F4 damage to the Twin Cinemas in Van Wert, Ohio

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File:The August 6, 2023 EF2 tornado south of Edinburg, Illinois.jpg
Photographer still owns the copyright. Stopped responding September 12 when asked about releasing it. VRT ticket:2024102810003738
File:A tornado on April 16, 2024.jpg
Photographer still owns the copyright. Stopped responding September 12 when asked about releasing it. VRT ticket:2024102810003756
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Photographer and this image easily findable on X; in the thread that follows, they grant permission to multiple media agencies to use, but they eventually stop responding. In my records, I noted that I had also messaged this creator, but I cannot find where I did that, so this might be an error. Anyway, I have messaged them on October 28 and will update this entry if they reply. VRT ticket:2024102810004308
File:Tim Marshall photograph of the 2023 Matador, Texas tornado.jpg
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English: Extreme damage to the Twin Cinemas building in Van Wert, Ohio, caused by the 2002 Van Wert–Roselms F4 tornado. The National Weather Service rated the damage to the cinema F4 on the Fujita scale.
Date November 2002
Source https://www.weather.gov/images/iwx/events/2002/1110_tornado/vanwert/VW19.jpg (context archived)
Author Paul Van Dyke

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