Commons talk:Wiki Loves Monuments/Logo contest/Submissions

disqualifications

On this page, all the logo that were disqualified for various reasons. Main reasons include:

• Unfinished or draft state of the logo submitted
• Unexploitable format
• Rules and guidelines not followed.

For each logo, a clear reason has been given. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to email notafish. Wiki Loves Monuments participants thank all the submitters for the participations, it was great to see all the fantastic ideas out there. :) notafish }<';> 06:29, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

These are the logos that were removed from the competition. Please vote here for the logo you like best!

I love London reloaded

• by M0tty

Comments

• the wiki loves monuments text is way too small and won't be seen on a smaller scale use of the logo. Also, as said above, a bit too close to the Wikiversity logo. notafish }<';> 20:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
• Principal vote against all logo's with a big red heart - sorry folks! Effeietsanders (talk) 10:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

'LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3 and Visual Guidelines #4 => The Wiki Loves Monuments text is too small to be read clearly on smaller uses of the logo. Thanks a bunch for your participation! notafish }<';> 00:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for participating!

Pyramids

• by M0tty

Comments

• Problematic contrast - and the pyramids for a European contest? ;-) Effeietsanders (talk) 10:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3 => The hollowed text makes for a difficult contrast and will not be readable on some colored backgrounds. Merci for your participation! ;) notafish }<';> 00:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hearts and "W"s monument

• by User:Leovilok

Comments

• I think there is too much detail involved, you can't possibly print that on a cap for example. In my opinion the logo should be quite simple.--Cirdan (talk) 20:41, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
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Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3, Visual guidelines #3 => same comment as previous logo: the hollowed text makes for a difficult contrast and will not be readable on some colored backgrounds + contrast overall will make logo hard to read on several backgrounds. Grayscale will make the contrast between red and gray fade and make logo difficult to understand. Thanks a bunch for participating! notafish }<';> 00:17, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The "W" monument

• by User:Leovilok

Comments

• add your comment here
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Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3, Visual guidelines #3=> Problematic of the hollowed text, extremely diffeicult to render at small and even big sizes + contrast is not sharp enough, the grays and reds will fade into the same color in gray scale/black&white. A thousand thanks for your participation! notafish }<';> 00:22, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Oriflamme

• by User:Olivier1961

Comments

• I am not very good with Inkscape, therefore I put this contribution here "as it is " with the idea that someone more gifted than I might wish to enhance it. I'm afraid though that this logo doesn't work well at smaller scales…
  The logo can easily be extended or shortened for other languages, but the general idea is to keep it square. — Olivier1961 (talk) 16:27, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Too many texts not easy to read. Could you do a version with just « monu » ? VIGNERON * ^discut. 20:26, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3, Visual guidelines #4=> Due to very thin lines forming the words, the logo is extremely difficult to scale for one, and to render sharply on promotional material, especially for example anything which involves fabric. Thanks for your hard work! notafish }<';> 00:22, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

wikicardiogram

• by User:WikedKentaur

Comments

• I don't have time to clean it up, so feel free to make your own adaptations (draw the heart-line part with red etc). --WikedKentaur (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
• I like this idea a lot. The wiki part could be sugested by taking a puzzle piece from the heart (see Waldir's stuff above)? notafish }<';> 15:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Votes

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Unfinished draft=> Logo was a draft, that unfortunately was not picked up. As such difficult to produce on a large scale. Thanks for your ideas! notafish }<';> 06:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposal by Ziko

• by User:Ziko

Comments

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Votes

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #1=> Logo is not svg, and as such cannot enter competition. Vielen Dank for participating! notafish }<';> 06:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Somewhat hand drawn heartish

• by Sertion

Comments

• I find the fact that the heart encroaches on the "monuments" a bit confusing. Otherwise, I like the heand-drawn heart :) notafish }<';> 10:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION

• Reason: User was asked to make a choice between variants too close to another. notafish }<';> 20:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Somewhat hand drawn heartish - Compact - it2

• by Sertion

Comments

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Votes

(votes must be cast with the templates {{support}} or {{oppose}}. All votes should give a reason why they go one way or the other, so as to allow uploaders to adapt their logo and resubmit)

LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION

• Reason: User was asked to make a choice between variants too close to another. notafish }<';> 20:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Not at all hand drawn heartish - Compact - Strict

• by Sertion

Comments

• add your comment here
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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION

• Reason: User was asked to make a choice between variants too close to another. notafish }<';> 20:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Wlm Horizontal

• by M0tty

• NB: User has been asked to choose one of the three to stay in the competition, other logos will be removed. notafish }<';> 00:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments

• add your comment here
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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION

• Reason: User was asked to make a choice between variants too close to another. notafish }<';> 20:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Wlm Horizontal variable 2

• by M0tty

Comments

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION

• Reason: User was asked to make a choice between variants too close to another. notafish }<';> 20:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Several drafts

• by User:Waldir

Comments

• Just a few quick drafts exploring several possible ideas. If any of these inspires someone to do something cool, go ahead! Otherwise, if there is support, I can work on developing one of these into a proper svg submission. Some of the ideas I played with:
  • Attempts at not using words, so the logo is language-neutral (puzzle piece(s), monument photo, people/hands collaborating, heart)
  • When using words, contrast hand-written "wiki" to emphasize the "anyone can help", vs. the traditional, serif font for "monuments"
  • A lousy attempt at writing "monuments" using actual monuments (greek columns, the stonehenge, the pyramids...). Maye someone can do it better (or maybe it's just a sucky idea)

Note: I can produce individual files for each draft, if you think that works better in this page. --Waldir ^talk 14:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• I like the one with the slightly diagonal photo with a missing puzzle piece :) That has no problems with the love-annotation (which gives problems in i.e. Polish) and it gives a constructive image. Effeietsanders (talk) 15:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I added numbers for easy reference and also tweaked the levels to make things more visible. So, I guess you were talking about #6? --Waldir ^talk 22:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I was talking about 3/4 (with or without the hands, and for 3 only the left part). Effeietsanders (talk) 12:44, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I like 1, 5 (or 9) 8 and 10. I like the idea of going without text at all. #1 would be really cool, but probably does not scale with other languages. Go go go! notafish }<';> 15:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Inspiring draft... :) #10, but i think about Commons Logo too. + . Hmm :) Przykuta → [edit] 17:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that is a great idea... I don't see exactly how it could be implemented, but I'd like to see someone try :) --Waldir ^talk 02:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Next time :) Przykuta → [edit] 21:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Implementation

Ok, I created the versions that people requested (plus the one I personally liked most, #2). Here they are:

• NB: Submissions came after the deadline, BUT since they had been kind of submitted before, they are accepted, on the condition that the author chooses two of them out of the 4 (we have too many as it is :P) notafish }<';> 06:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Ok, will do. Just gimme a few hours to ask some people around. I'll do the change before the deadline this time, I promise! :D --Waldir ^talk 10:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
    • After talking to some people, I decided to run with the first two (v2 and v4 in the original numbering on the draft). I'll rename them to v1 and v2 because the naming was confusing to some people. The versions I removed were the two "puzzle+heart+monument photo" variants:
• File:WLM logo - Waldir 5a.svg (plain puzzle piece, to match the rest of the drawing better)
• File:WLM logo - Waldir 5b.svg (puzzle w/gradient, adapted from File:P wiki letter w.svg). --Waldir ^talk 14:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Version 1 (with heart reused from Sertion's "compact" proposal)	Version 2 (without the hands featured in the draft)

Some notes:

• In Version 1, following what I said above, the "wiki" part was made with a more cursive font than Sertion's and also in blue, to resemble writing with a pen, and also to add some color :)
• #10 (on the drafts) was a lame attempt at combining a puzzle piece and a monument (and maybe a picture). I think I failed disastrously, but Lusitana did a brilliant job at that with her proposals #Piece of puzzle monument and #Piece of puzzle monument 2 :)

--Waldir ^talk 02:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• This section is kept for archive purposes. Logos have been submitted as single entries on the submission page. notafish }<';> 20:09, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Wiki inclined with bar

• by User:Althiphika

Comments

• The Empire State Building for an european contest ? Trizek ^{here or on fr:wp} 09:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
•  Done I have replaced the Empire State by Big Ben in proposal 37. Should I change all or just the last 4 (my favorite !!!)?--Althiphika (talk) 09:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: User has been asked to choose one of their logos, and hasn't done so within the deadline, so I chose one to stay. notafish }<';> 09:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

The same, not tilted, with the heart below

• by User:Althiphika

Comments

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: User has been asked to choose one of their logos, and hasn't done so within the deadline, so I chose one to stay. notafish }<';> 09:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Without the bar

• by User:Althiphika

Comments

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: User has been asked to choose one of their logos, and hasn't done so within the deadline, so I chose one to stay. notafish }<';> 09:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

With shadow "monuments"

• by User:Althiphika

Comments

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: User has been asked to choose one of their logos, and hasn't done so within the deadline, so I chose one to stay. notafish }<';> 09:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Different heart

• by User:Althiphika

Comments

• add your comment here
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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: User has been asked to choose one of their logos, and hasn't done so within the deadline, so I chose one to stay. notafish }<';> 09:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

IDEM

• by User:Althiphika

Comments

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: User has been asked to choose one of their logos, and hasn't done so within the deadline, so I chose one to stay. notafish }<';> 09:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Trizek - Wiki loves all kind of monuments !

• by User:Trizek

Comments

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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3 - Visual guidelines #4=> Given its shape, and how small the items are, the logo will not scale from small to big. I am aware that there are other logos with the same "icons", and I'm leaving those in because their more compact shape or their color style will allow for much better scaling. As a note to the author: Keep those icons coming, we'll need them for our printed material ;). Merci de ta participation ! notafish }<';> 20:29, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

  Mouais. I'm not really convinced by your explanation. On a 2 square centimetres print, you always see the shape of the monuments. But you are the judge ! Trizek ^{here or on fr:wp} 22:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

traffic signal

• by User:Mafoso and User:SMP

Comments

• Mhm, play well against . Use a simple camera sign. Przykuta → [edit] 18:29, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
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LOGO REMOVED FROM COMPETITION'

• Reason: Must rules #3 - Visual guidelines #4=> Logo is very big, and in comparison to the overall size, the text is quite small. This logo will not scale on small objects and will look somewhat unbalanced on bigger scale objects. Thanks a bunch for your participation! notafish }<';> 20:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

other talk

Would it make sense to start sorting the submissions a bit at some point, to give people a clear overview where the heat is? Effeietsanders (talk) 10:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking about this as well. I suggest moving all the submissions with no or very few supporters to the bottom of the page. The old logo should remain the first option, followed by those candidates with many votes and many supporters. Maybe this should be done soon, so users who like to vote get a quick overview and aren't scared by the large number of options (since they now see the best submissions first). At the same time, some really good logos from the bottom of the page will get more attention than they already do.--Cirdan (talk) 14:46, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

At the same time you could add paragrapths of Support and Oppose, so you can count the pro's and conn's easier. HenkvD (talk) 18:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I just re-ordered the submissions. First, I moved all the ones with no supporters to the bottom, then started moving up all the ones with more votes in favor than opposing votes. I thought about moving down all the ones with only one vote in favor as well, but wasn't sure if that was too much of an influence on the ongoing voting process. I believe that the reorganization will help find the very best logo, but if there are serious concerns, feel free to undo my edits.--Cirdan (talk) 09:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough and well done, Cirdan.--Ziko (talk) 08:36, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

"Voting starts on the 19th of April 2011 at 0:00 UTC and closes on the 27th of April at 23:59 UTC."

So, is voting ended by now? --WikedKentaur 10:10, 29 April 2011 (UTC)