Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/PatrickFound

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PatrickFound

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Filed: 12:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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Reason: I am submitting this request for verification as a member of the jury responsible for judging the photos submitted during the DRC's participation in the WLE2024 contest. We have noticed that three accounts submitted images through the same user, who acknowledges this detail but denies that the same person is operating all the accounts. This situation hinders our ability to make decisions on the contest winners, especially as we are racing against the deadline. We are unable to reward them fairly, as we suspect that these users are linked. In our WhatsApp group discussions, PatrickFound confirmed that they are part of the same team and that he helped them create very recent user accounts to participate in the contest and maximize their chances of success. We also have screenshots of both individual and group conversations as evidence to support this claim. CapitainAfrika (talk) 12:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CapitainAfrika: please review the instructions at COM:RFCU. Where are diffs? What files? Is there double-voting? How is doing nothing but uploading free images (PatrickFound, the account you've identified as the master, has done nothing but upload six images) disruption at all, let alone disruption at the level of needing a CU "last resort for difficult cases"? Эlcobbola talk 13:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are the three pictures (just an example) :
File:Champignons sauvages trouvés dans la forêt de Mai-Mpili.jpg
File:Les Plantes vert dans la réserve biosphère de Yangambi (1).jpg
File:Réserve de Bombo-Lumene (1).jpg
Thank you, these images are likely to be promoted as winners of the WLE2020 contest in the DRC, but they appear to come from secondary accounts of the same user. This user acknowledges a connection with the other two accounts but claims that they belong respectively to his brother and one of his collaborators. Unfortunately, the conversation took place via WhatsApp in our group, and it is difficult for us to fairly reward these images. We would prefer to disqualify them from the contest, but we want to be sure if these accounts belong to three different individuals before making a final decision. CapitainAfrika (talk) 14:30, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The meta checkuser policy, which applies to all projects and which CUs must follow, includes "alternative accounts are not forbidden, so long as they are not used in violation of the policies". All PatrickFound and Mongala43 have done is upload free, unproblematic images. What policy is being violated here? Also, if they've already acknowledged a connection, why is a CU needed to establish a connection? Эlcobbola talk 15:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Elcobbola alright, thank you. However, if we are uncertain about whether we are rewarding the same person, wouldn't that be considered cheating, depriving other participants of the opportunity to benefit as well? CapitainAfrika (talk) 15:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know the WLE2024 contest rules. In the absence of double-voting, I don't see why this would be cheating or why anyone would care which account receives credit. Again, though, if they have already acknowledged the connection, you have everything a hypothetical {{Confirmed}} finding would give you. Why would they be lying? You're effectively asking for a CU to disprove their claim, which, notwithstanding the absence of a policy violation, is itself not a valid reason for a check. Эlcobbola talk 15:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I understand. However, if we choose to reward other participants, would we be breaking any rules or violating the codes of conduct related to inclusion and diversity? Thank you @Elcobbola. CapitainAfrika (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know the WLE2024 contest rules; that would be a question for the organisers. Эlcobbola talk 14:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Declined per above. Эlcobbola talk 14:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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