Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kriestovo Nysian
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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a Request for checkuser. Please do not modify it.
Kriestovo Nysian
[edit]- Kriestovo Nysian (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
Suspected related users
[edit]- Lchunter (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- ArchVKL (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- 195.12.232.227 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 195.12.232.251 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 193.173.219.167 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 2001:9e8:54d4:7a00:e83c:352c:aa30:27f (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 2001:9e8:54e7:c400:6cd7:136:8233:5287 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 2001:9E8:54D4:E800:E17B:28B6:CD6D:F281 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 2001:9E8:54DA:2400:F554:A834:ADB6:D85D (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 2001:9E8:54E5:C500:79E5:B3AD:D3D0:DD5D (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 2001:9E8:54C5:600:49BC:4A27:2D48:9730 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.132.166.138 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 78.49.32.69 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.135.40.112 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 83.135.190.74 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 83.135.190.18 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.132.116.79 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 83.135.190.83 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 87.122.22.165 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 87.122.22.177 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 89.245.176.247 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 89.245.176.245 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 80.239.189.32 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- Romnsrcs (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
Per discussion and behavioral evidence in Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Mass_vandalism/falsification_on_'Slavic'_issues. List of IP addresses is unfortunately not conclusive, there are more in these ranges. Constantine ✍ 15:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
See also COM:ANU#Mass vandalism/falsification on 'Slavic' issues.— 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:54, 7 December 2024 (UTC)- What exactly is the goal for the check? Krd 16:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- If confirmed, blocking the accounts and IP ranges. Plus detecting if possible whether there are more accounts, that would be very useful, as the disruption is chronic and on a massive scale and there are definitely more accounts that the above active. Constantine ✍ 16:24, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- The mentioned accounts are not directly related, but it appears not impossible to draw some connections anyway. It will need some time to sort this. Krd 06:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Krd (talk · contribs). Another likely (albeit stale) sock account on behavioral grounds: Vojtech Ctvrtnik (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log) Constantine ✍ 12:48, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note that User:ArchVKL has also again been pushing the hoax idea of a "Slavonic dance notation" on Wikidata ([1] [2]), which is a dead giveaway. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Added yet another recent sock account: Romnsrcs (talk · contribs). Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have to also add another suspected sock: Silar (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log ). Although it does not fit the pattern as exactly as the others above, the pseudo-historical and pseudo-scientific nonsense it produces (cf. [3] or [4]) in precisely this rather niche area is worryingly similar. Constantine ✍ 23:21, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- While I can understand your suspicion (I too noticed that Silar sometimes has surprisingly idiosyncratic notions about categorization), I must say I don't think they can be a sock. For one thing, they have reliably reverted Kriestovo socks on multiple occasions and over a long period of time, and been reverted by the socks in turn (and I don't think it's Kriestovo's style to fake edit-war against themself). They also have been around for much longer – since 2005, in fact – and have a wider range of interests. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I am also far less certain than with the other cases as the MO is different, but the amount of similarly fringe 'Turboslavic' things this account has produced in this very specific, niche area of Commons is almost too much to be a coincidence, and I have seen them both feeding off each other, using one another's categories. This may be the accidental result of similar interests and POVs, but it definitely warrants checking. Constantine ✍ 20:33, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- While I can understand your suspicion (I too noticed that Silar sometimes has surprisingly idiosyncratic notions about categorization), I must say I don't think they can be a sock. For one thing, they have reliably reverted Kriestovo socks on multiple occasions and over a long period of time, and been reverted by the socks in turn (and I don't think it's Kriestovo's style to fake edit-war against themself). They also have been around for much longer – since 2005, in fact – and have a wider range of interests. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have to also add another suspected sock: Silar (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log ). Although it does not fit the pattern as exactly as the others above, the pseudo-historical and pseudo-scientific nonsense it produces (cf. [3] or [4]) in precisely this rather niche area is worryingly similar. Constantine ✍ 23:21, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Krd (talk · contribs). Another likely (albeit stale) sock account on behavioral grounds: Vojtech Ctvrtnik (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log) Constantine ✍ 12:48, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- The mentioned accounts are not directly related, but it appears not impossible to draw some connections anyway. It will need some time to sort this. Krd 06:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- If confirmed, blocking the accounts and IP ranges. Plus detecting if possible whether there are more accounts, that would be very useful, as the disruption is chronic and on a massive scale and there are definitely more accounts that the above active. Constantine ✍ 16:24, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is the goal for the check? Krd 16:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Confirmed:
- Lchunter (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- Arkbv2323 (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- Possible:
- ArchVKL (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- Librsrc (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- Possible:
- Romnsrcs (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- Librsrc (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- Please suggest how to conclude. --Krd 11:59, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- All 6 accounts you listed are very clear behavioral matches to each other and to the banned sockpuppeter, so I'd suggest blocking them all. I'd also suggest considering range blocks on 2001:9e8:5400::/40, 195.12.232.0/24, and 83.135.190.0/24, all of which have been used exclusively by this person as far as I can tell (the 195.* one has been stable for 2 years). Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done as suggested. --Krd 14:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Krd and Future Perfect at Sunrise. Constantine ✍ 18:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Krd: can you please also check on the last account I mentioned above (Silar)? The behavioral evidence is getting stronger the more I encounter his contributions. Constantine ✍ 19:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Unrelated Krd 07:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Constantine ✍ 08:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the Request for checkuser. Please do not modify it.
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- Thank you. Constantine ✍ 08:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Unrelated Krd 07:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Krd: can you please also check on the last account I mentioned above (Silar)? The behavioral evidence is getting stronger the more I encounter his contributions. Constantine ✍ 19:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Krd and Future Perfect at Sunrise. Constantine ✍ 18:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done as suggested. --Krd 14:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- All 6 accounts you listed are very clear behavioral matches to each other and to the banned sockpuppeter, so I'd suggest blocking them all. I'd also suggest considering range blocks on 2001:9e8:5400::/40, 195.12.232.0/24, and 83.135.190.0/24, all of which have been used exclusively by this person as far as I can tell (the 195.* one has been stable for 2 years). Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a Request for checkuser. Please do not modify it.
Kriestovo Nysian
[edit]- Kriestovo Nysian (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
Suspected related users
[edit]- Sibinia (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log ) (already blocked)
- Ѵокан Ноѵак (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log )
- 93.133.116.129 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.133.19.104 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.133.61.152 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.133.116.129 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 78.48.87.81 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
- 93.133.46.164 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RBL • tools • luxo's • crossblock • block user • block log
Rationale, discussion and results
[edit]Reason: Ѵокан Ноѵак is the latest sock of Kriestovo Nysian / Sibinia; together with multiple dynamic IPs. Same campaign of vandal/hoax edits relating to Slavic culture on Commons and Wikidata, this time spreading a hoax about medieval Slavic documents containing an alleged Slavonic dance notation; also again miscategorizing Greek inscriptions as Cyrillic/Slavic ones [5] [6], compare previous edit by Sibinia: [7]Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:25, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Have blocked User:Ѵокан Ноѵак and added/Blocked User:Martha Vangroosen - FitIndia Talk ✉ 15:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the Request for checkuser. Please do not modify it.
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