Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/I Kadékk Gilang

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I Kadékk Gilang

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Filed: 22:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• I Kadékk Gilang (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

Suspected related users

• Elijah Mahoebessy (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Alèxandroedeutchland (talk • contribs • Luxo's • SUL • deleted contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

Rationale, discussion and results

Reason: These appear to fit in with the pattern of edits (subject matter, timeline of a new account every few days, false claims of own work as CC-zero) for Category:Sockpuppets of I Kadékk Gilang, which is itself an admitted sock of en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/YilevBot/Archive. Considering that they're incredibly prolific, I also suspect there are sleepers. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Confirmed is Alèxandroedeutchland, along with several others. No evidence for Elijah Mahoebessy has been presented (or for Alèxandroedeutchland, but their edits were obvious), so they have not been checked. FWIW, they did not appear in the range with I Kadékk Gilang. Unless evidence is presented (per COM:RFCU: "When you request a check, you must include a rationale that demonstrates (e.g., by including diffs) [...] why you believe the accounts are related" (underline in original)), a CU on Elijah Mahoebessy is Declined. Эlcobbola _talk 23:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Elcobbola: Thanks. The biggest giveaway for Elijah Mahoebessy is File:Eastern Sumatra Malay.png. Virtually all of the I Kadékk Gilang socks have these same two shades of blue linguistic maps of Southeast Asian languages. Between that, the date range of account activity, and the copyvios as CC-zero, I'd be comfortable with a DUCK block if that's not enough for a CU. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Compare that upload with File:Bali Aga dialect map.jpg by confirmed sock አምላክ ብቻ, File:Idioma Balinés.png by confirmed sock Alèxandroedeutchland, and File:Sumbawan languages.png by suspected sock Œka. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Maps with that colouration are in wide use. How do you rule out Elijah Mahoebessy merely mimicking a style they observed? I don't say they are or aren't a sock, of course, but I don't consider that data point alone to be sufficient for a check. Is there more? Эlcobbola _talk 00:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

If anything Elijah Mahoebessy looks to me like Jellywings19; are you familiar with them? Are they or their socks blocked on Commons? Эlcobbola _talk 00:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

• Numerous of Elijah Mahoebessy's uploads have been added by that account (in addition to other content additions) to articles that significantly overlap with Blackman Jr. (e.g., id:Aksara Alifuru, id:Luhu, Huamual, Seram Bagian Barat, id:Kapitan Jonker), including articles created by, and nearly exclusively edited by, Blackman Jr. (e.g., id:Bahasa Arab Indonesia). Blackman Jr., a confirmed sock of Jellywings19 on en.wiki (see my comment above) is globally locked, thus editing with Elijah Mahoebessy would be evasion of that global block (and many others) and the plausible copyright concerns relate to files uploaded after, at least, confirmed sock Ree11 had received talk page copyright notices.

For this reason I've checked Elijah Mahoebessy related to Jellywings19. Elijah Mahoebessy is Confirmed to be Dhivehi Man, which is blocked on id.wiki for abusing multiple accounts. While no master is named there, the edits significantly overlap with known socks Blackman Jr., Ree11, etc, which is good enough for me to consider this Jellywings19.

It is difficult to imagine that en.wiki, which has been tracking I Kadékk Gilang (w:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of YilevBot) and Jellywings19 as separate masters for years--including with SPIs (YilevBot; Jellywings19)--would not have combined them if they were the same. Indeed, on Commons they are on different ISPs, regions, and devices, so current information is that Elijah Mahoebessy is technically Unrelated to I Kadékk Gilang. Эlcobbola _talk 18:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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