Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives October 23 2023
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- Nomination New Zeedijk Holwerd. View of the Wadden beyond the dike.
--Agnes Monkelbaan 04:14, 21 October 2023 (UTC) - Promotion
Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nomination New Zeedijk Holwerd. View of the Wadden beyond the dike.
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- Nomination Terp fan de Takomst near Blije is located in Noard-Fryslân Bûtendyks. Part of the project in progress.
--Agnes Monkelbaan 04:14, 21 October 2023 (UTC) - Promotion
Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nomination Terp fan de Takomst near Blije is located in Noard-Fryslân Bûtendyks. Part of the project in progress.
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- Nomination Terp fan de Takomst near Blije is located in Noard-Fryslân Bûtendyks. Part of the project in progress.
--Agnes Monkelbaan 04:14, 21 October 2023 (UTC) - Promotion
Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nomination Terp fan de Takomst near Blije is located in Noard-Fryslân Bûtendyks. Part of the project in progress.
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- Nomination Portal of the St Lawrence church in Pamplona, Navarre, Spain. --Tournasol7 04:11, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality.--Agnes Monkelbaan 04:18, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination San Fermín de Aldapa church in Pamplona, Navarre, Spain. --Tournasol7 04:11, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality.--Agnes Monkelbaan 04:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Building of Banco de Espana in Pamplona, Navarre, Spain. --Tournasol7 04:11, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality.--Agnes Monkelbaan 04:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Welcome sign at Melidoni Cave, Melidoni, Crete, Greece --XRay 02:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Graffiti in Radamanthios Street, Rethymno, Crete, Greece --XRay 02:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Hydrant with “out of service” sign at the special ammunition depot Dülmen-Visbeck in the Dernekamp hamlet in Kirchspiel, Dülmen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany --XRay 02:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Arkadi Monastery (Μονή Αρκαδίου) in the regional district of Rethmyno, Crete, Greece --XRay 02:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Dripstone cave near Melidoni, Crete, Greece --XRay 02:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 04:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Red Pine Park, Bainbridge Island, Washington, U.S. --Another Believer 02:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. Sharpness not the best, but acceptable. --XRay 03:01, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Baptistry of the Roman Catholic parish church Saint Maximilian in Treffen, Treffen, Carinthia, Austria -- Johann Jaritz 01:44, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --XRay 02:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Roman relief fragment at the south wall of the Roman Catholic parish church Saint Maximilian in Treffen, Treffen, Carinthia, Austria -- Johann Jaritz 01:44, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Tagooty 02:50, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Barred window at the nave of the Roman Catholic parish church Saint Maximilian in Treffen, Treffen, Carinthia, Austria -- Johann Jaritz 01:44, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --XRay 02:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Schulterbogenportal at the baptistry of the Roman Catholic parish church Saint Maximilian in Treffen, Treffen, Carinthia, Austria -- Johann Jaritz 01:44, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --XRay 02:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Lyon Metro Line B at the new terminus extension --Billy69150 23:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Tagooty 02:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Red Arrows in formation flight --Julian Herzog 20:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Giles Laurent 22:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Madonna woodcarved in Selva Gherdëina --Moroder 12:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Terragio67 17:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Teleus Longtail (Spicauda teleus) --Charlesjsharp 11:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Giles Laurent 12:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Crisppatch skipper (Potamanaxas tschotky) --Charlesjsharp 11:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Giles Laurent 12:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Support Good quality. --Plozessor 12:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Gmelin's banded skipper (Autochton bipunctatus) --Charlesjsharp 11:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Giles Laurent 12:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Montagna mountain satyr (Pedaliodes montagna) mating --Charlesjsharp 11:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Giles Laurent 12:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Support Good quality. --Plozessor 12:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination White-necked rockfowl (Picathartes gymnocephalus) --Charlesjsharp 11:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Giles Laurent 12:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Church Square Park, Hoboken. --King of Hearts 09:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Terragio67 17:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Leighton House, London, England --Poco a poco 08:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --MB-one 08:46, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Leighton House, London, England --Poco a poco 08:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Charlesjsharp 11:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Leighton House, London, England --Poco a poco 08:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Charlesjsharp 11:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Leighton House, London, England --Poco a poco 08:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Charlesjsharp 11:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Leighton House, London, England --Poco a poco 08:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Charlesjsharp 11:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Skaters at Chapelle skate park in Brussels --Ermell 08:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality.--Famberhorst 16:04, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Support What a beautiful background you found... Good quality. --Terragio67 17:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination The Roman Catholic Parish Church of St. Sebastian in Steinsfeld --Ermell 08:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 08:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ridge turret of the Roman Catholic parish church of St. Sebastian in Steinsfeld --Ermell 08:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 08:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Sunset on the beach of Saint Petersburg --Ermell 08:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 08:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Greenhouse at Mompesson House, Salisbury --Mike Peel 07:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 08:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Painting of Thomas Folliott at Mompesson House --Mike Peel 07:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 08:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Hybrid pipe organ of St. Columba's Church, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland. --AFBorchert 07:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Plozessor 07:09, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination "Grüner Baum" ("Green Tree") inn in Rattelsdorf --Plozessor 05:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality.--Famberhorst 05:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination St Gertrude chapel near Gerolzhofen with natural monument "chapel lime" (the left tree is crooked in reality) --Plozessor 05:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Nice composition and good quality. --AFBorchert 07:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Historial "poet's house" in Bettenburg landscape park --Plozessor 05:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion Good but small vertical correction needed.--Famberhorst 05:35, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Wierum (Northeast-Fryslân), View of the Wadden Sea from the seawall. (Breakwaters and mud flats.)
--Famberhorst 05:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC) - Promotion
Support Good quality. --Plozessor 05:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nomination Wierum (Northeast-Fryslân), View of the Wadden Sea from the seawall. (Breakwaters and mud flats.)
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- Nomination Sint Odulphuskerk Bakhuizen. Church tower.
--Famberhorst 05:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC) - Withdrawn
Way too much noise, especially on the tree but also on the church. Can that be fixed? --Plozessor 05:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
The wind was blowing very hard. Thanks for the comment.--Famberhorst 05:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nomination Sint Odulphuskerk Bakhuizen. Church tower.
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- Nomination Golden Eagle and Majinghorn --Giles Laurent 21:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --ArildV 07:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Red Deer in Aletsch Forest Nature Reserve --Giles Laurent 21:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Charlesjsharp 11:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Common kestrel in flight at Pfyn-Finges --Giles Laurent 21:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Mike Peel 07:28, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination File:Lille PdBA vroubel cheminee (by Velvet) --Sebring12Hrs 18:11, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --FlocciNivis 21:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Lille PdBA vue salle 2 (by Velvet) --Sebring12Hrs 18:11, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --FlocciNivis 21:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Kirsten Ludowig at the #HerCareer 2023 in Munich, Germany --Kritzolina 14:51, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Moroder 12:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ararat Plain at dawn. Mount Ararat and Khor Virap Monastery in a distance. Ararat Plain, Armenia. --Argenberg 11:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --FlocciNivis 21:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Vorotan Valley under overcast sky. View of Halidzor village, Syunik, Armenia. --Argenberg 11:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --FlocciNivis 21:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination: Ausflug nach de:Obercunnersdorf Strasse: Seitenweg Hausnummer: 3 --Nightflyer 19:49, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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white line on top and dust spot to remove --Virtual-Pano 23:44, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination: Château d'Ouchy in Lausanne, Switzerland, seen from Place du Vieux-Port --Kritzolina 18:29, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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Is Château d'Ouchy the building on the left? If so, the building in centre and lake should be identified in the Description. --Tagooty 04:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Zentrale Hochschulsportanlage Munich.--Alexander-93 20:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --C messier 20:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Puch G-Class at Motorworld Munich.--Alexander-93 20:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --Mike Peel 07:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Entrance area of the building complex of the BayernLB --FlocciNivis 17:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support QI for me. --C messier 20:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Boat on Lac Leman --Kritzolina 17:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support OK. --C messier 20:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Tourists enjoying views from Kozákov mountain, with Trosky castle ruin in the background --JiriMatejicek 09:51, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Support Good quality. --C messier 20:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination: RHIB at Interboot-Hafen 2023, Friedrichshafen --MB-one 09:29, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Review The composition doesn't seem really successful to me. I would have paid less attention to the buoys and tried to get the tops of the tents in the picture. -- Spurzem 16:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
@Spurzem: Thanks for the review. Do you have a specific recommendation, how to improve this image? --MB-one 15:43, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Hampi / Karnataka - Vittala Temple - Column of Mandapa on right side of entrance --Imehling 12:43, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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Quality is fine but the crop? Part of the head is missing. --ArildV 13:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC) Yes, top of the head is missing. Unfortunately I can't change that. --Imehling 20:04, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Support I guess it's ok for QI. Good technical quality --ArildV 10:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination: LE RIALTO, a building like any other in en:Saint-Étienne, France. --Touam 16:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Review
Needs perspective correction (also make sure the leaf top left is cropped). --C messier 18:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, the perspectives corrections are already done and the cropps are good like that. --Touam 09:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
The perspective corrections needs some fine tuning, as both sides leaning in. --C messier 16:08, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Nomination Assumption Church of the Assumption Monastery. Oryol. Russian Federation--AlixSaz 09:33, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion IMHO, the shadows are too dark. --C messier 20:22, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Done Thank you. Fixed exposure and contrast.--AlixSaz 19:01, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
OK, but please check again the perspective correction, there is some leaning towards the left (sorry for not noticing it the first time). --C messier 20:25, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
DoneThank you for your attention. I saw the slope and corrected it.--AlixSaz 17:08, 19 October 2023(UTC)
Support Good quality. --C messier 12:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Consensual review
[edit]File:Tortoise_beetle_(Cyrtonota_sp.)_Choco.jpg
[edit]- Nomination Tortoise beetle (Cyrtonota sp.) --Charlesjsharp 09:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Comment
Most parts are out of focus/blurred.Might not have looked correctly, or browser hadn't loaded all image details. The right back of the beetle is a bit blurry but overall it is ok. Withdrawing my objection, sorry. --Plozessor 12:33, 17 October 2023 (UTC) - Support Looks acceptable to me --Poco a poco 16:31, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Some transitions are not absolutely perfect, but the result is by far good enough for an A4 size print. --Smial 09:28, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Great details. I don't understand the opposing vote. -- Ikan Kekek 04:06, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted --C messier 16:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
File:Catedral_de_la_Inmaculada_Concepción,_Manila,_Filipinas,_2023-08-26,_DD_21.jpg
[edit]- Nomination Cathedral, Manila, Philippines --Poco a poco 06:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Decline
Oppose Unfortunately the top of the left tower looks seriously distorted. --AFBorchert 14:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
@AFBorchert: I've upladed a new version Poco a poco 20:27, 14 October 2023 (UTC). The new version is overall significantly better. I understand that you wanted to take the challenging 16 mm wide angle shot to avoid the monumental statue in front of the cathedral. But there are limits what perspective correction can do and I still think that the left tower, while improved, is still unfortunately distorted. Another problem is that the tower is significantly taller than the roof of the nave and at the distance the correction suggests the tower should be much taller as it shows. Your photo is certainly unique within the set of photos we have from the main façade and thereby a valuable addition. But overall I still think that the amount of perspective correction with its severe consequences for the tower is beyond the criteria for quality images. --AFBorchert 04:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your detailed feedback, I'm curious what others say, please, let's discuss --Poco a poco 06:55, 15 October 2023 (UTC) - Comment I am generally very unhappy with extreme perspective corrections, because they never reflect the impression a visitor has of an object on location. You also have to consider that a shot taken with a wide-angle lens with, let's say, 110° diagonal angle of view, after such a digital correction and appropriate cropping, is easily equivalent to a lens with 130°, 140° or even larger angle of view. This no longer has anything to do with an approximately realistic, natural and encyclopedic image, but is rather to be assigned to experimental photography or "effects", such as fisheye shots or these tiny world projections. Somehow quite nice, but because of their absurdity quickly out of fashion again. As for realistic imaging: Is the turret in the upper left really such a narrow, elongated building as the photo suggests? --Smial 10:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC) Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
- @Smial: Please have a look at File:Front view of The Cathedral in Intramuros, Manila.jpg to get a realistic view of the belfry. --AFBorchert 11:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment That was a rhetorical question. ;-) --Smial 11:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Smial: Please have a look at File:Front view of The Cathedral in Intramuros, Manila.jpg to get a realistic view of the belfry. --AFBorchert 11:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment on a wider issue. I fully agree with AFBorchert and Smial points. But there seems to be a problem of a larger scale on Commons. Commons is filled with this kind of odd-looking images, and they are widely used in articles too. Here is another example: File:Monasterio_de_Geghard,_Armenia,_2016-10-02,_DD_92.jpg. It looks as if the temple is leaning right and left and literally falling apart. Yet the side verticals are somehow vertical (but what for?). There’s a lot of close examples from many authors. In my experience not only wide angle makes it impossible to do suitable corrections, but the very start of a normal range (35 mm in full frame terms) also is often incompatible with any kind of perspective correction when the subject takes up most of the frame. Only fully normal (around 45 mm in full frame, 30mm on APS-C) to telephoto range provides freedom in adjusting lines in composition, in aligning and harmonizing the perspective, without making the scene looking weird, overly distorted and utterly wrong. As a rule of thumb: only if it is a slight correction it looks good, otherwise it is not. Correcting in wide angle often makes the image neither more educational nor aesthetically pleasing, but introduces artifacts with proportions and weights, which is counterproductive to realistic photography for encyclopedic use. This note is not about this particular image/images but regarding usual accepted practice here. Who established a controversial tradition on Commons to have all architectural shots corrected for verticals (but in fact distorted)? It contradicts the very essence of it as a collection of educationally useful photos. It should be changed and reversed, for the common good! --Argenberg 21:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I so agree with Argenberg! I'm quite new to QI, but I'm puzzled by the obsession with verticals and rectangularity. If you take a picture of a building from anywhere else than exactly in front of it, the resulting image is not rectangular. What is called "fixing the perspective" here is actually distorting the image so that it looks unnatural. Yet the common practice here seem to be: Building in the picture is not rectangular -> cannot be a QI, period. About this case here, I think it is an extreme example of "distorting the image so that it looks unnatural" to satisfy the rectangularity requirement. It won't work. The picture looks extremely unnatural. It should be restored to its original perspective, then it would look natural, but most reviewers would instantly decline it for not being rectangular. --Plozessor (talk) 19:31, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment It is by no means my intention to demonise perspective corrections in general. Such subsequent image processing is very useful in many cases. In the case of the photo discussed here, the correction also seems to comply with the rules of geometric optics. But I seriously wonder whether such pictures should not be marked with a template pointing out that the representation in this extreme wide-angle perspective does not correspond to the visual impression on site. After all, we still have a certain encyclopaedic mission. --Smial 21:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I so agree with Argenberg! I'm quite new to QI, but I'm puzzled by the obsession with verticals and rectangularity. If you take a picture of a building from anywhere else than exactly in front of it, the resulting image is not rectangular. What is called "fixing the perspective" here is actually distorting the image so that it looks unnatural. Yet the common practice here seem to be: Building in the picture is not rectangular -> cannot be a QI, period. About this case here, I think it is an extreme example of "distorting the image so that it looks unnatural" to satisfy the rectangularity requirement. It won't work. The picture looks extremely unnatural. It should be restored to its original perspective, then it would look natural, but most reviewers would instantly decline it for not being rectangular. --Plozessor (talk) 19:31, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Declined --Robert Flogaus-Faust 10:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
File:View_of_Estella-Lizarra_(2).jpg
[edit]- Nomination View of Estella-Lizarra (seen from Zalatambor Castle), Navarre, Spain. --Tournasol7 04:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion
- Support Good quality. --Jakubhal 04:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment tree top left distracts --Charlesjsharp 09:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Pole bottom right distracts.--Milseburg 10:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support No issue with the "distracts". Image guidelines say that "objects in front of the subject shouldn't hide important elements", but that is not the case here. --Plozessor 19:15, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Good photo. The pole distracts me more than the treetop, but fine for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 04:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support I agree here with Plozessor and Ikan Kekek. This is in my opinion good enough for QI as the distracting elements are just at the corners of the image, they do not really disturb the view of the town. --AFBorchert 10:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted --C messier 16:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Mont de Chemun Sasplat.jpg
[edit]- Nomination Wayside Crucifix --Moroder 13:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Promotion
- Support Good quality --Llez 05:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose IMO the main object is not sharp enough, a larger diafragma and a better focus would have been much better --Michielverbeek 05:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The way cross as the main motif is significantly less sharp than the background. It would be okay the other way around, but not like this. --Milseburg 09:57, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Good for me -- Spurzem 21:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Somewhat low DOF, but in normal viewing size by far sharp enough. --Smial 00:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Which QIC rule exactly applies here? I judge images under "usual" viewing distance. If it's sharp enough then, it meets the QIC conditions. More is a bonus. Hopefully we all here know the good old "6 Mpixles is enough for any output size" rule, which was established for that usual viewing distance and is well justified. The photo here in this discussion clearly exceeds that requirement, so it adds value. With the exact same subject, taken with, say, a 12-mpixel camera, the lack of depth of field would not be noticeable at all, as the background would simply not be resolved finely enough. At first glance, some people may find it surprising that cameras with high-resolution sensors (and adequately sharp lenses) seem to have a shallower depth of field than lower-resolution cameras with cheap, old kit lenses. --Smial 11:42, 16 October 2023 (UTC) Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
- Oppose I agree with Michielverbeek here. The focus is on the background but not on the main object. --AFBorchert 05:27, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Agree with all the opposes above on the facts, but those who supply images at an absurdly high resolution should not be penalized for doing so. Looks just fine at a normal resolution. --King of Hearts 11:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I don't think that it would be better choosing a smaller resolution or downscaling instead of a suitable DOF. --Milseburg 14:38, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per King of Hearts. --MB-one 18:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose If the mountain would be the main subject, it would be fine. But per nomination, the wayside cross is supposed to be the main subject, and that is severely out of focus and blurred. Regardless of the resolution, but an out-of-focus and blurred subject in front of an in-focus and sharp background does not seem to qualify as QI. --Plozessor 19:15, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- The point is that yes, the main subject is out-of-focus, but if they had shot it on a 6 MP Nikon D40 we would not have noticed. To me it feels wrong to fail a QIC nom because someone used a fancy camera when a cheaper camera would have passed. --King of Hearts 21:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Humongous photo; the wayside cross is totally fine at 50%, but regardless of what anyone says, my reaction to the photo is that it is not a photo of the wayside cross. If it were, it would focus on the wayside cross, rather than the mountain, and would not include so much mountain, grass, trees or sky. It would probably be a much smaller photo. -- Ikan Kekek 04:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Yes, as said above - I only objected because it was nomitated as a "wayside cross" ;) ... As a photo of the mountain it is absolutely perfect, and the blurry wayside cross in foreground is a minor distraction but no problem. --Plozessor 09:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Total: 6 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Promoted --C messier 16:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)