Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives January 04 2017
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- Nomination Prague: building of Smetana Museum --A.Savin 00:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 00:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Prague: facade sculpture on Palác Generali at Wenceslas Square --A.Savin 00:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 00:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Coastline of the "Lost Coast", as seen from Shelter Cove, California --Frank Schulenburg 18:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality --Halavar 19:20, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Pomegranates on a tree in Naxos, Greece --Kritzolina 18:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Frank Schulenburg 19:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Aline Fiedler (CDU) --Sandro Halank 18:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Cayambe 22:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Karin Wilke (AfD) --Sandro Halank 18:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Basotxerri 18:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Stephan Hösl (CDU) --Sandro Halank 18:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Basotxerri 18:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Christoph Hartmann (CDU) --Sandro Halank 18:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Poco a poco 22:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Lars Rohwer (CDU) --Sandro Halank 18:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Basotxerri 18:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Fountain in Oberschwappach castle --Ermell 17:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Basotxerri 18:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Main altar of the Catholic parish church of St. Laurentius in Strullendorf --Ermell 17:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Basotxerri 18:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Water droplet laying on a damask textile due to surface tension and low absorbtion of textile. Focus stacking: 24 shots, step 5; Raynox 250 --PetarM 17:54, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Basotxerri 18:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Prague: Troja Bridge --A.Savin 16:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Poco a poco 16:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Decorations on the occasion of Chinese New Year 2016. South Bridge Road. Chinatown, Central Region, Singapore. --Halavar 15:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Poco a poco 16:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Smith Street - Chinatown Food Street. Chinatown, Central Region, Singapore. --Halavar 15:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 20:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Fireworks in Roermond --Freddy2001 13:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Poco a poco 16:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Fireworks in Roermond --Freddy2001 13:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good shot. --Peulle 20:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination View below the Schlossbrücke ("palace bridge") in Mülheim/Ruhr. NRW, Germany --Basotxerri 12:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 13:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Holm oak acorn in the Botanical Garden of Olarizu. Vitoria-Gasteiz, Basque Country, Spain --Basotxerri 12:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality, and Happy New Year. -- Ikan Kekek 13:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Name plate of the "Casa de la Dehesa" building in Olarizu Park. Vitoria-Gasteiz, Basque Country, Spain --Basotxerri 12:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality --Llez 16:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Landscape of the Espierba mountain range. Sobrarbe, Huesca, Aragon, Spain --Basotxerri 12:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 13:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Façade of one of the Iturritxu towers in the Adurza quarter of Vitoria-Gasteiz. Basque Country, Spain --Basotxerri 12:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 13:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Stirling Castle Great Hall --DeFacto 11:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Decline because the castle has dust spots on it.;-) But seriously, good quality. Have a Happy New Year! -- Ikan Kekek 13:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ugandan defassa waterbuck (Kobus ellipsiprymnus defassa) juvenile female, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 11:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 11:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ugandan kob (Kobus kob thomasi) male, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 11:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Very good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 11:12, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ugandan kob (Kobus kob thomasi) male, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 11:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 11:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ugandan kob (Kobus kob thomasi) male, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 11:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 11:15, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Ugandan kob (Kobus kob thomasi) female and calf, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 11:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Ikan Kekek 11:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Calle Verode in Puerto de la Cruz, Tenerife. --Cayambe 09:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 10:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination A large specimen of Euphorbia candelabrum (not a cactus) in Puerto de la Cruz, Canary Islands. --Cayambe 09:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 10:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Christ Church Cathedral, Stanley, East Falkland --Godot13 09:17, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Decline Already a QI! -- Ikan Kekek 14:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Shag Rocks, South Georgia --Godot13 09:17, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality and very interesting; might be worth an FPC nom. -- Ikan Kekek 14:41, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Close up on the Rio Tagus (ship, 1979) --Christian Ferrer 09:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 10:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Landscape in the commune of Montady, Hérault, France. --Christian Ferrer 09:15, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Decline Not sharp enough, especially in the distance. Sorry. --Ermell 16:20, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Santa Maria Maddalena de' Pazzi (Florence) - Ceiling --Livioandronico2013 08:56, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Carina e graziosa. Buona qualità. -- Johann Jaritz 09:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Santa Maria Maddalena de' Pazzi (Florence) - Interior --Livioandronico2013 08:56, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support good quality --Christian Ferrer 09:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Shazdeh Garden, Mahan, Iran --Poco a poco 08:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 10:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Dolat-Abad Garden, Yazd, Iran --Poco a poco 08:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Fortress of Bam, Iran --Poco a poco 08:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality, but please remove the bird (see annotation) --Llez 09:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Question If you can tell that's a bird, why should it be removed? -- Ikan Kekek 14:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Good question, I would remove it if it were bigger and blurry, but cannot tell why in this case it is really a problem to be fixed Poco a poco 16:49, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Don't worry, was just a proposition --Llez 19:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Citadelle of Meybod, Iran --Poco a poco 08:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support good quality --Christian Ferrer 09:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination HDR-panorama of the interior of the archaeological site "Cuatro Puertas", Gran Canaria --Llez 08:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Panoramic view of the archaeological site "Cuatro Puertas", Gran Canaria --Llez 08:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Bread Line Nicolae Tonitza (1919). --Yelkrokoyade 08:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Livioandronico2013 08:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Uttara Gonobhaban, a formerly royal palace in Natore, Bangladesh. By User:Ratul Chandra Das--Masum-al-hasan 07:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Decline Oppose Unsharp, perspective distorted. chromatic aberrations. --A.Savin 16:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination দিঘাপতিয়া রাজবাড়ি (উত্তরা গণভবন). By User:Mohammed Al-Amin Bapary--Masum-al-hasan 07:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Decline Face is not in focus --Uoaei1 08:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Marble Statue at Dighapatia Rajbari।. By User:Shuaib Anik--Masum-al-hasan 07:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Decline Oppose Noise, chromatic aberrations. --A.Savin 16:30, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Subsidiary and pilgrimage church Saint Wolfgang in Grades, Metnitz, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Ermell 07:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Fresco of Saint Christopher at the eastern fortification wall around the subsidiary and pilgrimage church Saint Wolfgang in Grades, Metnitz, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Uoaei1 08:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Bell tower of the subsidiary and pilgrimage church Saint Wolfgang in Grades, Metnitz, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Ermell 07:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Portal in the southern rampart wall of the fortification around the subsidiary and pilgrimage church Saint Wolfgang in Grades, Metnitz, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Uoaei1 08:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Eastern view of the fortification and the subsidiary and pilgrimage church Saint Wolfgang in Grades, Metnitz, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Ermell 07:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Nature reserve Głazy Krasnoludków 1 --Jacek Halicki 00:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Uoaei1 08:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Nature reserve Głazy Krasnoludków 2 --Jacek Halicki 00:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Watermill in Bukowiec --Jacek Halicki 00:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. --Ermell 07:49, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination A look down an aisle in EM Belysning Aps in Viborg, Denmark --Slaunger 21:30, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Cluttered,but this is reality here. QI to me. --Cayambe 09:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Cayambe: Yes it is the entire point that it is cluttered. It is like entering a cave of lamps to go into this shop. -- Slaunger 13:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Prague: view of the Lesser Town from the western Charles Bridge Tower --A.Savin 16:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Could you correct the perspective Poco a poco 16:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC) @Poco: There is nothing wrong with the perspective. --A.Savin 16:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC) - Promotion Will promote it but not sure 100%. Some buildigns are leaning (e.g. the buildings in the top right are leaning in a bit) but cannot see a clear pattern --Poco a poco 16:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Nomination Prague: view of the Lesser Town from the western Charles Bridge Tower --A.Savin 16:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Nomination Topi (Damaliscus lunatus topi), male, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 14:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Technical quality OK, but please create redlinked category. -- Slaunger 21:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC) - Promotion
Thanks for spotting this Done. @Slaunger: Charlesjsharp 10:57, 1 January 2017 (UTC). You're welcome. -- Slaunger 13:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Nomination Topi (Damaliscus lunatus topi), male, Uganda --Charlesjsharp 14:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Nomination Sunset over Drammen, the Strømsø side, in december 2016.--Peulle 14:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Very pretty, and I think the unsharpness of the skyline is OK, but please fix the dust spot over the hills near the left margin. -- Ikan Kekek 19:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC) Done Thank you. :) --Peulle 00:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Ikan Kekek 11:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Path to the counter in EM Belysning Aps, Viborg, Denmark --Slaunger 23:52, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Egyptian vulture in flight, bringing some food to its nest. --Artemy Voikhansky 20:29, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Not bad for a flying one. Please add the location (category and/or geocode). --A.Savin 15:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Done Added place name in English description and geotag in image info Artemy Voikhansky 21:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Nice work, very good shot! -- Slaunger 22:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC) Comment Service: added Category:Gamla Nature reserve... --A.Savin 16:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Wunderburgschule in Bamberg --Ermell 20:24, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Wunderburgschule in Bamberg --Ermell 14:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination St. Sarkis Cathedral, Tehran, Iran --Poco a poco 10:29, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Looks to me as if it's leaning back as it goes up. Do you see that? -- Ikan Kekek 11:27, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Not really Poco a poco 17:54, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Let's get a second (or is that third?) opinion. -- Ikan Kekek 22:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Third opinion: It is slightly CW rotated. -- Slaunger 18:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Tilted Poco a poco 17:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Ok now. -- Slaunger 22:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Brewery Inn Mahr in Bamberg (1812) --Ermell 16:22, 27 December 2016 (UTC) Comment Needs perspective on the left, file is overcategorized --A.Savin 11:31, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotion Support Photoraph offers plenty for having good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 08:31, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Oppose for now. Sorry, not this way. I have removed the category "Breweries" as a service for Ermell; but the perspective definitely needs correction ad it is definitely not my obligation to fix it. --A.Savin 16:20, 1 January 2017 (UTC)DoneThanks for the review.--Ermell 17:31, 1 January 2017 (UTC) Support Looks correct on the left now. --A.Savin 23:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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- Nomination Map of Tabarca --Qoan 12:58, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Could be SVG --The Photographer 15:04, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
there's no need though as far as I know --Qoan 01:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Question Has this plan been made as a vector graphics and would it be possible to publish an SVG? --Basotxerri 09:11, 25 December 2016 (UTC) Comment I mean, if not, I'd be willing to promote this one, too, this was just a question. --Basotxerri 18:36, 27 December 2016 (UTC) - Promotion Promoted as this meets the requirements but as The Photographer suggests, please upload a vectorised version if there is. --Basotxerri 18:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Nomination Map of Tabarca --Qoan 12:58, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Consensual review
[edit]File:Mallnitz_Seebachtal_Wasserfall_B_06.jpg
[edit]- Nomination Waterfall in the Seebach Valley, High Tauern National Park, Carinthia --Uoaei1 05:04, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Oppose the water have been overexposed and is now only pure white and without details --Christian Ferrer 06:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Info New version uploaded. I ask for further opinions. --Uoaei1 10:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support - This version looks like a pretty good photo to me, and it's OK for there to be some white water. -- Ikan Kekek 23:37, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support per IK. --A.Savin 16:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Support As above.--Peulle 20:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted --Peulle 21:50, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
File:Medi Aero, Panama.jpg
[edit]- Nomination The Medi Aero is being brought in by the tugs into Newcastle Harbour (NSW, Australia) to the coal-loading docks. --Adamdaley 20:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Oppose Left part is too unsharp (f/4 makes no sense to me here). Also a bit tilted ccw. --Uoaei1 22:38, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- The review in my opinion has gone way overboard in being analysed. I would like to open my image up to discussion. Adamdaley 06:48, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- The way you do that is simply by changing the "Decline" to "Discuss". However, I Oppose this photo being promoted to QI at this point, because as Uoaei1 says, the left side of the ship is too unsharp. -- Ikan Kekek 08:26, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- People have to remember that this ship is moving. The majority of images I see on the here are still objects and have something slightly wrong with them. I understand what both of you are saying, but the ship is in motion. Images are never 100% perfect. Nothing is. Adamdaley 09:34, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've been thinking what you've both said about it being "unsharp". For someone to print this out professionally it would be 50.8 cm by 15 cm. The 1,280 by 369 ... looks pretty bloody good to me. Sorry if I sound biased. But slight flaws can be forgiven as we are not true professionals here. Adamdaley 23:30, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose I am sorry Adamdaley, but I have to agree with the other reviewers. The ship is simply too soft in focus on the left hand side. I do not think it has to do with the ship movement as in that case, there would be motion blur all over the ship and your shutter time is short, so this should not be a problem. Rather, it is a problem with your camera settings or handling. As has been pointed out f/4 is a rather large aperture, but actually with the focal length you have and the sensor, this should not severely compromise your depth-of-field, try for yourself using this online DOF-calculator. But at this large aperture you may also loose lens fidelity close to the edges of the photo depending on the quality of your lens, or maybe you unwillingly rotated the camera slightly while pressing the shutter? f/7 or f/8 is often a good choise when doing outdoor photography in good light. Yes, we are amateurs at Commons, but we try to learn from each other to improve our skills, and for that purpose the reviews at QIC are an excellent learning ground. I have learned so much here over the years by taking on board the comments of reviewers. So, we are not here to treat a nomination unfairly, and we are used to miving objects as well. In addition to the soft focus, the image is also tilted unacceptably much. This is evident if you inspect where the water/land line is before and after the ship. -- Slaunger 08:15, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I am unable to go to f/7 or f/8. I can only go as high as f/5.6 at the moment with the lens that came with the camera. I am going overseas (on January 9, 2017) to the Philippines where a lens will be waiting for me. Unfortunately it only goes up to f/5.6 as well at 300mm. It seems that I cannot find a lens that is capable of going up to f/7 or f/8. Maybe you are right, I have only had this camera for about 10 days and when I noticed the blurriness I was hesitant about the image being blurry. Other than that, I do have a certificate in photography at an introduction level. Adamdaley (talk) 08:34, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley I am very, very sure that with your 18-55 mm lens you have now, you can pick a smaller aperture than f/4. A smaller aperture means a larger f-number, like f/8 or f/13. Rather it is that your current lens cannot have a larger aperture than about f/4 (depends a bit on focal distance). You need a larger aperture when you have very little light or deliberately want to have a shallow depth of field, where you blur our the background to let the main subject stand out. It is large apertures that costs in lens as it imposes harder requirements to the optics of the lens. You have only had your camera a few days. It takes times to learn how to handle it and become familiar with the settings. It is an interesting journey, but be patient. I created a category for your ship by the way. It appears to be the first photo of that ship on Commons. Congratz. :-) -- Slaunger 08:50, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have sharpened the image on the left side. Adamdaley 04:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Good work in decreasing the unsharpness, but I'm still not ready to support the nomination for QI. Ikan Kekek 07:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- What else can I do? I'm learning how to use Photoshop. I'm out of options, really. Just really being semantical here because it's ever so slight. Adamdaley 08:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley: I do think this picture will pass nomatter how much editing you do. If the information is not there in the base material you can't really bring it out using Photoshop. One obvious improvement =you can to though is to fix the tilt. That could be another training execise for you in Photoshop, and if you do that I will be happy to nominate it at as a valued image candidate, where it is likely to pass as the most valuable image within the scope: Medi Aero (ship, 2016). If you have lightroom and have made the shot in raw format you have better changes of salvaing minor defects in an image, by the way, especially issues with lightning. -- Slaunger 12:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Tilt? Ever thought the background is an illusion or misleading? I cannot fix something that people think is wrong with it no matter how much editing I do. What I mean is, the right hand has more buildings closer to the water than compared the left with buildings set back from the water. Adamdaley 13:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- I put this "tilt" down to the ship being empty and that the heavy end just happens to be the back end with all the extra weight is. Adamdaley 14:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley Can we agree that the ship appears to be seen almost exactly from the side? Can we then also agree that you would expect that the line where the ship meets the water ought to be very close to horizontal? If we can agree on this, you will also realize the image is tilted in the clockwise direction. -- Slaunger 15:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yes I agree with what you are saying. At the same time, you have to consider the position I was in relation of the ship and the line of the ship as it is going into port. When a ship is empty in this case it is, the weight is not evenly distributed. Hence the weight all the weight mainly at the rear. The tripod was level, the ship is at several angles. Which have been addressed. Adamdaley 16:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley Can we agree that the ship appears to be seen almost exactly from the side? Can we then also agree that you would expect that the line where the ship meets the water ought to be very close to horizontal? If we can agree on this, you will also realize the image is tilted in the clockwise direction. -- Slaunger 15:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- I put this "tilt" down to the ship being empty and that the heavy end just happens to be the back end with all the extra weight is. Adamdaley 14:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Tilt? Ever thought the background is an illusion or misleading? I cannot fix something that people think is wrong with it no matter how much editing I do. What I mean is, the right hand has more buildings closer to the water than compared the left with buildings set back from the water. Adamdaley 13:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley: I do think this picture will pass nomatter how much editing you do. If the information is not there in the base material you can't really bring it out using Photoshop. One obvious improvement =you can to though is to fix the tilt. That could be another training execise for you in Photoshop, and if you do that I will be happy to nominate it at as a valued image candidate, where it is likely to pass as the most valuable image within the scope: Medi Aero (ship, 2016). If you have lightroom and have made the shot in raw format you have better changes of salvaing minor defects in an image, by the way, especially issues with lightning. -- Slaunger 12:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- What else can I do? I'm learning how to use Photoshop. I'm out of options, really. Just really being semantical here because it's ever so slight. Adamdaley 08:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Good work in decreasing the unsharpness, but I'm still not ready to support the nomination for QI. Ikan Kekek 07:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have sharpened the image on the left side. Adamdaley 04:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley I am very, very sure that with your 18-55 mm lens you have now, you can pick a smaller aperture than f/4. A smaller aperture means a larger f-number, like f/8 or f/13. Rather it is that your current lens cannot have a larger aperture than about f/4 (depends a bit on focal distance). You need a larger aperture when you have very little light or deliberately want to have a shallow depth of field, where you blur our the background to let the main subject stand out. It is large apertures that costs in lens as it imposes harder requirements to the optics of the lens. You have only had your camera a few days. It takes times to learn how to handle it and become familiar with the settings. It is an interesting journey, but be patient. I created a category for your ship by the way. It appears to be the first photo of that ship on Commons. Congratz. :-) -- Slaunger 08:50, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adamdaley: This will be my last comment. I understand perfectly that the ship itself is not levelled in the water surface, maybe due to an uneven load, and as a consequence of that the horizontal lines in the ship will not and should not be horizontal in the image. That is not what I am trying to address, but the correct horizontal alignment of the surroundings. Even with an uneven load, the water-ship line should be approximately horizontal, and that is not the case. You seem very passionate to get this exact image promoted. It's normal. Only about 1/3 of my uploads are QIs despite using quite some thought on each photo. -- Slaunger 19:28, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Slaunger ... As I said, the horizontal alignment of the other side of the harbour is misleading and is an illusion. You can only trust me on this when I say that. If I could change the horizontal line of the other side, and make it that it is not an illusion, then I would, by saying that ... this image will not become a "Quality Image". All because the assessment team wanted to make the perfect image out of something that never existed in the first place. Adamdaley (talk) 21:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - "Assessment team"? What team? Did I miss a team meeting or something? User:Christian Ferrer takes a lot of photos of ships that have been promoted to QI, and some to FP, too. You might want to look at his photos, many of them of ships on the move, to see what he does. But I don't think that arguing that we individuals who've chosen to pass judgment on some photos here should adopt lower standards is going to carry the day, nor in my opinion should it. The great majority of images nominated here are promoted as it is. -- Ikan Kekek 22:17, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek Maybe a poor choice of description, but you get the idea of what I'm trying to say. The "people who assess the images" I should have said. Of course not "adopt lower standards", just make the other side of the harbour appear uneven due to the ship being uneven in the water. That's not logical. I get it, the unsharpness, that's been sharpened a little. Now want me to make the other side of the harbour uneven for the ship that is uneven because it is empty as it coming into the harbour/port? I'm no magician nor am I wanting to become one with this image. Adamdaley 22:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Your words are important on a medium that has nothing but words and images, and I'm telling you how you are coming across to me, and probably to the other people on the "assessment team". Instead, you are trying to argue that I should support your photo because of x and y, but I already made that decision. I will support your photos when I think they meet QI standards. Those standards aren't going to change greatly because you have a different view of what they should be, especially when it concerns one of your own photos. That's just the way it is. Happy New Year, and keep submitting photos; just don't expect them to get promoted 100% of the time. -- Ikan Kekek 23:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek ... I can understand what you are saying. At least I'm happy with the image regardless of what other people think about it. Adamdaley 23:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek how am i suppose to improve the tilt? What is your suggestion? Because i don't know how to improve it. Adamdaley 04:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed the tilt, and I couldn't tell you what to do about that. -- Ikan Kekek 11:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek how am i suppose to improve the tilt? What is your suggestion? Because i don't know how to improve it. Adamdaley 04:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek ... I can understand what you are saying. At least I'm happy with the image regardless of what other people think about it. Adamdaley 23:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Your words are important on a medium that has nothing but words and images, and I'm telling you how you are coming across to me, and probably to the other people on the "assessment team". Instead, you are trying to argue that I should support your photo because of x and y, but I already made that decision. I will support your photos when I think they meet QI standards. Those standards aren't going to change greatly because you have a different view of what they should be, especially when it concerns one of your own photos. That's just the way it is. Happy New Year, and keep submitting photos; just don't expect them to get promoted 100% of the time. -- Ikan Kekek 23:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek Maybe a poor choice of description, but you get the idea of what I'm trying to say. The "people who assess the images" I should have said. Of course not "adopt lower standards", just make the other side of the harbour appear uneven due to the ship being uneven in the water. That's not logical. I get it, the unsharpness, that's been sharpened a little. Now want me to make the other side of the harbour uneven for the ship that is uneven because it is empty as it coming into the harbour/port? I'm no magician nor am I wanting to become one with this image. Adamdaley 22:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- What is wwrong with it then? So i can fix it. Adamdaley 20:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- As previously stated, the left side is too unsharp for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 04:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Whole image has been sharpened. Adamdaley 07:03, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- As previously stated, the left side is too unsharp for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 04:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - "Assessment team"? What team? Did I miss a team meeting or something? User:Christian Ferrer takes a lot of photos of ships that have been promoted to QI, and some to FP, too. You might want to look at his photos, many of them of ships on the move, to see what he does. But I don't think that arguing that we individuals who've chosen to pass judgment on some photos here should adopt lower standards is going to carry the day, nor in my opinion should it. The great majority of images nominated here are promoted as it is. -- Ikan Kekek 22:17, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Slaunger ... As I said, the horizontal alignment of the other side of the harbour is misleading and is an illusion. You can only trust me on this when I say that. If I could change the horizontal line of the other side, and make it that it is not an illusion, then I would, by saying that ... this image will not become a "Quality Image". All because the assessment team wanted to make the perfect image out of something that never existed in the first place. Adamdaley (talk) 21:26, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Comment Considering the size, I suppose it is a panorama of more than 1 photo ad the left one of the original photos was not sharp. This would explain the sudden change from sharpness to unsharpness on the left side. --Llez 09:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Llez ... no it's a single image. I'm not sure why the left is not sharp. Adamdaley 09:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose I totally agree that the left side is too unsharp for QI, the whole ship needs to be fine for that. I see that you are still learning to work with a photoshop program. Like many other beginners with such program you seem to think that any fault in a picture can be fixed by using it. I'm sorry to tell you that the advertising for those programs lie. Things can only be fixed if the information is there from the beginning, the program can't add or recreate details lost in blur. The sharpness button only create some contrast between existing pixels in the photo. I'm sorry for you that this photo didn't turn out as well as you had hoped, we all have photos like that. The only thing is to move on and remember to take many photos the next time and use many camera settings for them so that we can see which one was successful when we look at them later on the monitor. Also to clarify for you, there is no team reviewing the photos here, we who submit photos here review each other's photos. It says so clearly on the instructions page that those who nominate photos should also review; that includes you as well if you feel like it. W.carter 11:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined -- Slaunger (talk) 19:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)