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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
- Info Reflections of OneEleven building, Chicago downtown. The structures reflected on the facade are La Salle Street Bridge, the Reid Murdoch Building (both brown) and 121 West Kinzie Street. These two buildings are on the north side of Ricer Chicago. All by Alvesgaspar (talk) 23:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Support -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 23:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral Nice, but a bit similar to the already featured File:Chicago September 2016-37.jpg; I'm not seeing what's featurable in this image that isn't already present in the other image. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Per KoH. lNeverCry 00:49, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Support - Different building and very different reflections. You guys think there should be only one example of this genre of photographs as an FP? Why? Do we have only one FP of a dragonfly? Of a sunset? Of a cathedral interior? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:23, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- For me it's more than the mere genre: the light blue main building and the beige and reddish brown buildings in the reflection. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- We disagree. The photos aren't that similar. And besides, are variations on a theme verboten for FP? There are several other photos of glass skyscrapers in Chicago by Alvesgaspar that probably merit FP designation. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- A lot of my criteria are not fixed, but on a sliding scale. Here I don't think the wow factor is among our highest, though sufficient for one feature. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:42, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- We disagree. The photos aren't that similar. And besides, are variations on a theme verboten for FP? There are several other photos of glass skyscrapers in Chicago by Alvesgaspar that probably merit FP designation. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- For me it's more than the mere genre: the light blue main building and the beige and reddish brown buildings in the reflection. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Question The subject is not clear to me. Does the buildings reflected en:OneEleven or just that glass? I think here the subject is mainly the reflections and it need to be identified. Jee 04:37, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Info Some info included above. Alvesgaspar (talk) 10:59, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Support Thanks. Jee 11:18, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Support per Ikan --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 07:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Comment Could you please change the name to something that actually describes what is in the pic? Right now there is a whole bunch of "Chicago September" photos, a very broad concept, at least name the building in the file title. --cart-Talk 11:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Info @W.carter: & @Daniel Case: : I have decided long ago not to give detailed descriptive names to the pictures I upload. Two reasons: first, the effort would be inconsistent with the normal practise in Commons, where any language can be used in the file names and no standards exist; second, for someone looking for something the effective way of finding what's needed is searching through categories, not file names. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 11:05, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not exactly sure what "normal practice" you are referring to since Commons:File naming (links to this are at the top of the FPC page) says: Names should be: - descriptive, chosen according to what the image displays or contents portray. The category system is all very well for folks who are familiar with it, but for the ordinary person (not a community member) the most common way of finding pics is to use the search box. Even if the categories show up there, those who are not familiar with them chose the images that appear based on their file name. Question is: Are you organizing your pics just for the community or for anyone looking? There have been several lively discussions at QIC about proper file names and the majority of posts speak for following the guidelines. Yes, language barriers do exist, but a good file name in any language is better than a bad one. Especially with the new browsers that translate between languages. I'm not asking you to change all your files' names, but since FPs are supposed to be the best, I think we should follow the guidelines for these pics at least. cart-Talk 11:39, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- I do comply with the rules in Commons:File naming, at least at a minimal level: the place where the photo was taken (which is also its subject) is referred to, as well as the date. But I won't go any further, with detailed titles like "Reflections on OneEleven Building in Chicago September 2016 - nn". In what FP and QI are concerned, the searching work is much facilitated by the extra categorization given by the FP and QI galleries. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 12:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- I see, so you think it would be ok if I renamed this file: File:Plastic polar bear with LED lights.jpg to "File:Lamp November-2016.jpg"? --cart-Talk 12:40, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Rethorical question, no need to respond! :) -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 12:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- A response might be appreciated. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Conditional support on changing the filename per cart.Daniel Case (talk) 02:09, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- I have already explained the logic behind my naming convention and this is not the place to engage in a theoretical discussion on the subject. Whether the reviewers consider this picture has the merit to become a FP or they do not. Of course, anybody is free to change the names of the existing FP or of any picture in Commons, for that matter. But I'm not going to do it as a requirement for promotion. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 11:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Suit yourself, but it means that I will try to remember not to nominate any photo of yours with an unclear name. You see that it is losing you support in this thread. I won't change my vote, but I think that cart and the others have a point. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:31, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral after reading Alvesgaspar's response. Daniel Case (talk) 04:32, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support Albertus teolog (talk) 14:21, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Jacek Halicki (talk) 21:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
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