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File:Ak55-Busy afternoon.jpg, not featured
[edit]Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 4 Mar 2016 at 12:45:54 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/People
- Info created by Zuraj studio - uploaded by Zuraj studio - nominated by Rodrigo.Argenton -- -- RTA 12:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support - we need a better description though. -- -- RTA 12:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Nice faces, but the overexposed legs are a distraction. I suggest a crop (see note). Regards, Yann (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - *I basically agree with you. The women are beautiful and so are the fruits of their labor. In addition to your suggested crop, I'd also suggest cropping that part of the blurred background that's above their heads. It's a pity, because the basket is nice, too. I may oppose this photo, particularly in its current form, as it's clearly a VI and I suppose it's a QI, but is it truly "one of the finest images" at present? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- IMHO its "one of the finest images" because the subject and the culture value. --The Photographer (talk) 16:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- It's a core principle of my aesthestics that subject and cultural value don't make an image or any kind of art good or bad. They can increase the interest of a work of art that's already good, but they can't make one that sucks into good art (I could give various analogies with other artistic media, but probably the easiest is to compare Picasso's "Guernica" to some poorly slapped-on graffiti that says "Fascists suck!!!!"). Now in this case, the image certainly doesn't suck, but it has to first of all stand on its own as an image before I'd be willing to consider other factors. As a matter of fact, your argument is tempting me to tilt toward opposing featuring this photo... -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - I looked at the photo again. I guess I'm more or less neutral because though I don't like the degree of blur in the photo, it is both well-composed and, other than the blurring, an interesting and pretty image. But I don't feel impelled to support it, either. -- Ikan Kekek (talk)
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- Comment Yann, Ikan, why you don't crop and upload it? -- RTA 17:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - It would take a lot of time for me. I don't use Photoshop too often. However, if someone else makes the crop, I'll have a look at the result. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan, Cropping is easy with Commons:CropTool. Make sure you select "lossless cropping" (too keep all the quality) and to upload as a new file (since such a big crop mustn't be done in-place and also this is a prize-winning image we should leave alone). But I actually don't like the crop suggestion. -- Colin (talk) 18:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - It would take a lot of time for me. I don't use Photoshop too often. However, if someone else makes the crop, I'll have a look at the result. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment Yann, Ikan, why you don't crop and upload it? -- RTA 17:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- It's a core principle of my aesthestics that subject and cultural value don't make an image or any kind of art good or bad. They can increase the interest of a work of art that's already good, but they can't make one that sucks into good art (I could give various analogies with other artistic media, but probably the easiest is to compare Picasso's "Guernica" to some poorly slapped-on graffiti that says "Fascists suck!!!!"). Now in this case, the image certainly doesn't suck, but it has to first of all stand on its own as an image before I'd be willing to consider other factors. As a matter of fact, your argument is tempting me to tilt toward opposing featuring this photo... -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- IMHO its "one of the finest images" because the subject and the culture value. --The Photographer (talk) 16:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support Some DoF problem, however, faces are in focus. Nice subject, lovely --The Photographer (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support I like this framing and disagree on cropping. There's nice eye-line and leading-line factors with the subjects faces, the knitting, the needles, arms and their legs and basket. The subjects and their accessories make a very attractive picture. Ikan, "value" (i.e. educational value) is in the guidelines as a FPC factor to consider. So it isn't just about whether the photo is good art. We're an educational project after all, not the local camera club. On the negative point, the colours are a bit blown in places (which is probably hard to avoid) and the photo has been saved in AdobeRGB so everyone looking at this with a mobile browser will see dull colours and grey skin. -- Colin (talk) 18:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I do take educational value into account, but I wouldn't support featuring any picture on educational value alone. I appreciate the advice on cropping, but based on the comments, I'm not sure it's worth doing because it doesn't look like it would get support. Besides, I'm not positive it would solve all of my problems with the depth of field and resulting focus issues. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Strong support Really lovely! Don't crop, because then we can't contemplate the pose of the young girls. 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 19:01, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support INeverCry 20:29, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Hubertl 21:22, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support -1 to the crop. As is, it shows us what they're doing as much as how much they enjoy it. Daniel Case (talk) 06:58, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support strong but great colors! --Rettinghaus (talk) 11:18, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose very pity, but false focus point: unsharp faces. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 00:11, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alchemist-hp, in my opinion you are wrong, the focus are in the hands, maybe because the photographer wanted to show the action, so the focus is okay... -- RTA 15:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Rodrigo.Argenton I'm reading: "This is an image of Cultural Fashion or Adornment from Kenia". That says me: the focus are the both nice girls and her clothes, not the girls' hands. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 17:06, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alchemist-hp >> "English: Another busy afternoon." [1]. -- RTA 20:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I can't believe that. I still think that we have here a focus and DOF problem. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 20:40, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alchemist-hp >> "English: Another busy afternoon." [1]. -- RTA 20:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Rodrigo.Argenton I'm reading: "This is an image of Cultural Fashion or Adornment from Kenia". That says me: the focus are the both nice girls and her clothes, not the girls' hands. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 17:06, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alchemist-hp, in my opinion you are wrong, the focus are in the hands, maybe because the photographer wanted to show the action, so the focus is okay... -- RTA 15:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- weak oppose reluctantly due to focus issue. The colors and composition are good. --Pine✉ 06:33, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Nice subject but per others, technicaly unsufficient.--Jebulon (talk) 23:58, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose No wow for me, except the smile... --Laitche (talk) 11:25, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Alchemist. --Medium69 You wanted talk to me? 14:48, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support I'm fine with the focus. --Lošmi (talk) 21:26, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Berthold Werner (talk) 11:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Karelj (talk) 20:10, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 11 support, 6 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 18:35, 4 March 2016 (UTC)