Commons:Deletion requests/own photographs violatoing COM:FOP
own photographs violatoing COM:FOP
[edit]Here's a first nuke of Soviet/Russian imagery (all are my uploads). Burn in hell! NVO (talk) 12:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Wiki b kamenny bridge.jpg - Built in 1935. Architect Vladimir Gelfreikh died in 1967, Mikhail Minkus in 1963.
- Image:Wiki chugunny bridge.jpg - Built in 1966.
- Image:Wiki luzhkov bridge.jpg - Built in 1994.
- Image:Wiki m ustinsky bridge.jpg - Built in 1938. One of the architects, Georgy Goltz, died in 1946.
- Image:Wiki ustinsky bridges.jpg - Built in 1938. One of the architects, Georgy Goltz, died in 1946.
- Image:Wiki bolshoy krasnokholmsky 1.jpg - Built in 1938. Architect, Victor Kokorin, died in 1959.
- Image:Wiki bolshoy krasnokholmsky 2.jpg - Built in 1938. Architect, Victor Kokorin, died in 1959.
- Image:Wiki sadovnichesky ducks.jpg - Built in 1930. Architect, I. Ya. Frantsuz, was still active in 1957 (cannot locate exact year of death).
- Image:Wiki schluzovoy 1.jpg - Built in 1965.
- Image:Wiki second schluzovoy 2.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Wiki patriarshy 1.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Wiki patriarshy 2.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Wiki patriarshy 3.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Moscow hotel renovation 2007.jpg - Contemporary building under construction. Recreates design of Aleksey Schusev (died 1949).
- Image:Moscow balchug.jpg - Built in 1992 (hotel bldg, left), 1990s (central bank building, right).
- Image:Moscow kremlin senate mausloleum.jpg - Built in 1930. Lead architect of the Mausoleum, Aleksey Schusev, died in 1949.
- Image:Moscow mokhovaya 2.jpg - Built in 1932. Architect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow mokhovaya 3.jpg - Built in 1932. Architect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Mokhovaya Zholtovsky floorplan.gif - Built in 1932. Architect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow lions house main.jpg - Built in 1947. Head of architectural firm, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959. Cannot locate years of life of actual designers, but it's irrelevant - built 1947.
- Image:Zholtovsky moges 1.jpg - Built in 1920s. Architect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Luxury penthouse patriarch.jpg - Built in 1930s. Attribution is not clear; lead architect of original plans, Panteleymon Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Luxury window spacings patriarch.jpg - Built in 1930s. Attribution is not clear; lead architect of original plans, Panteleymon Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Luxury rudnev marshals house.jpg - Built in 1940s. Architect, Lev Rudnev, died in 1956.
- Image:Luxury bay window peschanaya.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Moscow 1948 lagutenko posokhin.jpg - Built in 1948. Lead architect, Mikhail Posokhin Sr., died in the same 1948.
- Image:Moscow luxury windows.jpg - Built in 1940. Architect, Andrey Burov, died in 1956.
- Image:Moscow sistema gals 1.jpg - Built in 2001.
- Image:Peking moscow chechulin mayakovsky.jpg - Built in 1954; statue 1958. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981. Sculptor, Alexander Kibalnikov, died in 1987.
- Image:Peking moscow chechulin tower.jpg - Built in 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Peshanaya 1 1952.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Peschanaya moscow detail 1.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Triumph palace moscow.jpg - Built in 2006.
- Image:DNN Iofan.jpg - Built in 1927-1931. Architect, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Hotel rossiya feb 03 2007.jpg - Built in 1927-1931. Architect, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Moscow sistema gals 2.jpg - Built in 2001.
- Image:Wiki sadovnchesky most.jpg - Built in 1963.
- Image:Moscow golosov.jpg - Built in 1940. Architect, Ilya Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Moscow golosov statue.jpg - Built in 1940. Architect, Ilya Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Moscow rybitsky mgb.jpg - Built in 1948.
- Image:Moscow rosenfeld tower.jpg - Built in 1940. Author, Zinovy Rosenfeld, was active through 1950s (cannot find exact year of death, but <70).
- Image:Moscow Golosov Ogiz Draft 1934.jpg - Author, Ilya Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Moscow Golosov TradeUnion Draft 1938.jpg - Author, Ilya Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Nktp mordv.jpg - Nominal author, Arkady Mordvinov, died in 1966.
- Image:Nktp vesn 2.jpg - Authors, Vesnin brothers, survived to 1959 (Alexander Vesnin) and 1950 (Victor Vesnin)
- Image:Nktp vesn 3.jpg - Authors, Vesnin brothers, survived to 1959 (Alexander Vesnin) and 1950 (Victor Vesnin)
- Image:Nktp panteleimon golosov.jpg - Author, Panteleymon Golosov, died in 1945.
- Image:Wiki gospitalny most.jpg - Built in 1941. One of the architects, Konstantin Topuridze, lived to 1977.
- Image:Wiki electro bridges from north.jpg - Built in 1954 (main Electrozavodsky road bridge; pedestrian bridges even later)
- Image:Wiki electro bridges from south.jpg - Built in 1954 (main Electrozavodsky road bridge; pedestrian bridges even later)
- Image:Wiki matrossky most.jpg - Built in 1956.
- Image:Wiki school 518 0.jpg - Built in 1935. Architect, Ivan Zvezdin, died in 1979.
- Image:Wiki school 518 1.jpg - Built in 1935. Architect, Ivan Zvezdin, died in 1979.
- Image:Wiki school 518 2.jpg - Built in 1935. Architect, Ivan Zvezdin, died in 1979.
- Image:Wiki school 518 3.jpg - Built in 1935. Architect, Ivan Zvezdin, died in 1979.
- Image:Wiki school 518 4.jpg - Built in 1935. Architect, Ivan Zvezdin, died in 1979.
- Image:Iofan palace of soviets original 1931.jpg - Author, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Iofan palace of soviets square 1933.jpg - Nominal author, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Iofan palace of soviets interior 1946.jpg - Nominal author, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Corbusier 1932 Second Round.jpg - Author, Le Corbusier, died 1965.
- Image:Iofan palace of soviets notower 1932.jpg - Author, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Bccb armenia 1948.jpg - Built in 1939. Architect, Karo Alabyan, lived to 1959.
- Image:Bccb central pavillion 1948.jpg - Built in 1937. One of the architects, Vladimir Gelfreikh, lived to 1967.
- Image:Bccb leningrad 1948.jpg - Built in 1939. Architect, Yevgeny Levinson, lived to 1969.
- Image:Bccb main square 1948.jpg - Built in 1939. Sculptor, Sergei Merkurov, died in 1952.
- Image:Bccb stalin 1948.jpg - Built in 1939. Sculptor, Sergei Merkurov, died in 1952.
- Image:Moscow SE housing orlov 1938.jpg - Built in 1938. Architect, Victor Orlov, died in 1960.
- Image:Sochi sanatorium 1934.jpg - Built in 1934. Architects, Vesnin brothers, survived to 1959 (Alexander Vesnin) and 1950 (Victor Vesnin)
- Image:Spb district council igor fomin daugul 1930 1935.jpg - Built in 1934. One of the architects, Igor Fomin, died in 1989.
- Image:Spb karpovka apartments igor fomin levinson 1934.jpg - Built in 1934. One of the architects, Igor Fomin, died in 1989.
- Image:Spb kirovsky prospect apartments simonov abrosimov hryakov 1934.jpg - Built in 1936. One of the architects, Pavel Abrosimov, died in 1961.
- Image:Wiki moscow preobr zastava 2.jpg - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Wiki Zelenko Kindergarten Vadkovsky Lane.jpg - Built in 1911. Architect, Alexander Zelenko, died in 1953.
- Image:Kauchuk club moscow architect melnikov.jpg - Built in 1927. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Wiki ostozhenka subway.jpg - Built in 1935. One of the architects, Nikolai Kolli, lived to 1966.
- Image:Wiki Mansurovsky Zelenko.jpg - Built in 1910. Architect, Alexander Zelenko, died in 1953.
- Image:Melnikov garage floorplan.GIF - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Melnikov Colors Svoboda Club Moscow.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Melnikov garage intourist 800 pxt.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Melnikov garage intourist 1200px wide.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Melnikov Stairs Svoboda Club Moscow.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Melnikov Stairs Svoboda Club Moscow BW.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Melnikov Svoboda Club Moscow.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Walcot prechistensky 8.JPG - Built in 1903. Architect, William Walcot, died in 1943.
- Image:Walcot prechistensky 10.jpg - Built in 1900. Architect, William Walcot, died in 1943.
- Image:Wiki korobeinikov 14.jpg - Built in 2000s (a replica of historical façade).
- Image:Narkomfin Building Moscow 2007 01.jpg - Built in 1929. Lead architect, Moisei Ginzburg, died in 1946.
- Image:Narkomfin Building Moscow 2007 02.jpg - Built in 1929. Lead architect, Moisei Ginzburg, died in 1946.
- Image:Narkomfin Building Moscow 2007 03.jpg - Built in 1929. Lead architect, Moisei Ginzburg, died in 1946.
- Image:Narkomfin Building Moscow 2007 04.jpg - Built in 1929. Lead architect, Moisei Ginzburg, died in 1946.
- Image:Tverskaya street buildings by Arkady Mordvinov.JPG - Built in 1938. Lead architect, Arkady Mordvinov, died in 1966.
- Image:Povarskaya 9 by I.S.Kuznetsov1910.jpg - Built in 1909. Architect, Ivan Kuznetsov, died in 1942 and did work in June 1941.
- Image:Wiki Genshtab Kolymazhnaya.jpg - Architect, Lev Rudnev, died in 1956.
- Image:Sokol Bldg Kuznetsky Most.jpg - Built in 1904. Architect, Ivan Mashkov, died in 1946.
- Image:Sokol Bldg Kuznetsky Most Balcony.jpg - Built in 1904. Architect, Ivan Mashkov, died in 1946.
- Image:Wiki Red Army Theater Moscow.jpg - Built in 1940. Lead architect, Karo Alabyan, lived to 1959.
- Image:Wiki Red Army Theater 1.jpg - Built in 1940. Lead architect, Karo Alabyan, lived to 1959.
- Image:Wiki Red Army Theater 2.jpg - Built in 1940. Lead architect, Karo Alabyan, lived to 1959.
- Image:Wiki Metropol Hotel Moscow Main.jpg - Built in 1904. Contains elements of original design by William Walcot, who died in 1943.
- Image:Wiki Metropol Hotel Moscow Artwork 1.jpg - Built in 1904. Contains elements of original design by William Walcot, who died in 1943.
- Image:Wiki Metropol Hotel Moscow Artwork 2.jpg - Built in 1904. Contains elements of original design by William Walcot, who died in 1943.
- Image:Wiki Metropol Hotel Moscow Artwork 3.jpg - Built in 1904. Contains elements of original design by William Walcot, who died in 1943.
- Image:Wiki Solyanka Street Moscow.jpg - Built in 1915. One of the architects on a project, Aleksey Yefremovich Sergeev, lived to 1950.
- Image:Wiki Solyanka Street Moscow Details.jpg - Built in 1915. One of the architects on a project, Aleksey Yefremovich Sergeev, lived to 1950.
- Image:Wiki Varvarskye Gates.jpg - Built in 1913. Architect, Ivan Kuznetsov, died in 1942 and did work in June 1941.
- Image:Wiki Ilyinka 15 Moscow Northern Insurance Building.jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vyacheslav Oltarzhevsky, lived to 1966.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya Tower 00.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Savvinskoye Podvorie, Moscow, inside Tverskaya 6 - inner courtyard.jpg - Built in 1907. Architect, Ivan Kuznetsov, died in 1942 and did work in June 1941.
- Image:Savvinskoye Podvorie Moscow Main Entrance.jpg - Built in 1907. Architect, Ivan Kuznetsov, died in 1942 and did work in June 1941.
- Image:Wiki Old Believers Church by Ilya Bondarenko, Gavrikov Lane, Moscow Russia.jpg - Built in 1909. Architect, Ilya Bondarenko, died in 1946.
- Image:Wiki Old Believers Church by Ilya Bondarenko, Gavrikov Lane, Moscow Russia front.jpg - Built in 1909. Architect, Ilya Bondarenko, died in 1946.
- Image:Wiki Egg House, Mashkova Street, Moscow, Russia.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Konstantin Melnikov, horseshoe garage, 27 Novoryazanskaya Street, Moscow.jpg - Built in 1928. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Alexey Shchusev, Gates of Marfo-Mariinsky Convent, Moscow.jpg - Built in 1912. Architect, Aleksey Schusev, died in 1949.
- Image:Moscow, Filatovsky Hospital.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Stoleshnikov Lane, Gilyarovsky.jpg - Contemporary sculpture.
- Image:Moscow, Tverskaya, Messerer Memorial.jpg - Contemporary sculpture.
- Image:Khabarovsk Cathedral 1.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Khabarovsk Cathedral 2.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Moscow, Devichye Pole, kindergarten by Zelenko, 1912.jpg - Built in 1907. Architect, Alexander Zelenko, died in 1953.
- Image:Moscow, Abrikosov Pavillion, Ilya Bondarenko, 1912.jpg - Built in 1912. Architect, Ilya Bondarenko, died in 1946.
- Image:Moscow, Zhuravleva Square Theater.jpg - Built in 1947.
- Image:Moscow, Lenin Library frieze.jpg - Built in 1927-1941. One of the architects, Vladimir Gelfreikh, lived to 1967.
- Image:Moscow, Lenin Library.jpg - Built in 1927-1941. One of the architects, Vladimir Gelfreikh, lived to 1967.
- Image:Moscow, Mosselprom Building.jpg - Built in 1925. Contains artwork by Alexander Rodchenko (d. 1956), recreated in 1997.
- Image:Moscow, Sadovnicheskaya 82-84.jpg - Built in 2000s (background).
- Image:Moscow, Sadovnicheskaya Embankment 77.jpg - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Moscow, Black Swan, Adamovich and Mayat interiors, 1910.jpg - Built in 1910. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Krasnokholmskaya Embankment.jpg - Built in 1960s.
- Image:Moscow, Dushkin's Tower.jpg - Built in 1952. Lead architect, Aleksey Dushkin, died in 1977.
- Image:Moscow, Gostorg Bldg in Myasnitskaya Street.jpg - Built in 1927. One of junior architects, Mikhail Barsch, lived to 1976.
- Image:Moscow, Narkomzem by Alexey Shchusev.jpg - Built in 1933. Architect, Aleksey Schusev, died in 1949.
- Image:Moscow, Stremyanny 28-1 01.jpg - Built in 1904. One of the architects, Alexander Zelenko, died in 1953.
- Image:Moscow, Maly Kakovinsky Lane.jpg - Built in 1910 (foreground). Architect, Georgy Oltarzhevsky, died in 1953.
- Image:Zverev Most.jpg - Built in 1930. Architect, I. Ya. Frantsuz, was still active in 1957 (cannot locate exact year of death).
- Image:Moscow, Gilarovskogo 65-17.jpg - Built in 1908. One of the architects, Traugot Bardt, sentenced for espionage in 1941, died in exile in 1942 and rehabilitated posthumously in 1959. [1].
- Image:Moscow, Gilarovskogo 65-17 detail 1.jpg - Built in 1908. One of the architects, Traugot Bardt, sentenced for espionage in 1941, died in exile in 1942 and rehabilitated posthumously in 1959. [2].
- Image:Moscow, Gilarovskogo 65-17 detail 2.jpg - Built in 1908. One of the architects, Traugot Bardt, sentenced for espionage in 1941, died in exile in 1942 and rehabilitated posthumously in 1959. [3].
- Image:Yauza river locks, Moscow.jpg - Built in 1939. Architect, Georgy Golts, died in 1946.
- Image:Moscow, Chayanova 15 - RGGU.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Moscow, Vtorov Mansion.jpg - Built in 1914. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Tverskaya 6 reliefs.jpg - Built in 1938. Lead architect, Arkady Mordvinov, died in 1966.
- Image:Moscow, Tverskaya 6 windows.jpg - Built in 1938. Lead architect, Arkady Mordvinov, died in 1966.
- Image:Moscow, Izvestia Building.jpg - Built in 1927 (first phase). Architect, Grigory Barkhin, lived to 1969.
- Image:Moscow, Kotelnicheskaya 31-K1.jpg - Built in 1990s
- Image:Moscow, Kotelnicheskaya 31-K2.jpg - Built in 1990s
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 12-10.JPG - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 25 27.JPG - Built in 1912. Architect, Semyon Kulagin, lived to 1951.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 28.JPG - Built in 1928. Architect, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Mosselprom Building.jpg - Built in 1925. Contains artwork by Alexander Rodchenko (d. 1956), recreated in 1997.
- Image:Moscow, Merzlyakovsky 8.jpg - Built in 1937 (background). Architect, Yevgeny Iocheles, was active throughout 1960s.
- Image:Moscow, 1st Kadashevsky 14.jpg - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Moscow, Stromynka 6 - Rusakov Club 1.jpg - Built in 1927. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Moscow, Stromynka 6 - Rusakov Club 2.jpg - Built in 1927. Archtect, Konstantin Melnikov, died in 1974.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 1.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 1, 2.jpg - Built in 2004.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 10.jpg - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 19.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 26.jpg - Built in 1947. Architect, Pavel Abrosimov, lived to 1961.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 54 corner.jpg - Built in 1928. Architect, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 54 side.jpg - Built in 1928. Architect, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Sadovnicheskaya Embankment, March 2008.jpg - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Stalinist and 19 century compare sizes.jpg - Built in 1939. Architect, Daniil Friedman, died in 1950.
- Image:Moscow, Turchaninov 4 (1).jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Turchaninov 4 (2).jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Turchaninov 4 (3).jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Turchaninov 4 (4).jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Turchaninov 4 (5).jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Turchaninov 4 (6).jpg - Built in 1911. One of the architects, Vladimir Mayat, died in 1954.
- Image:Moscow, Bolshoy Levshinsky 4 (1).jpg - Sculpture installed in 2002. Architect, Vladimir Tsigal, still alive
- Image:Moscow, Bolshoy Levshinsky 4 (2).jpg - Sculpture installed in 2002. Architect, Vladimir Tsigal, still alive
- Image:Moscow Metro lighting - Mayakovskaya.jpg - Built in 2005.
- Image:Moscow Metro lighting - Novoslobodskaya.jpg - Built in 1952.
- Image:Moscow Metro lighting - Park Kultury - KL.jpg - Built in 1935. Lighting, as shown, is a 1960s addition.
- Image:Moscow Metro lighting - Park Kultury - SL.jpg - Built in 1950.
- Image:Moscow Metro lighting - Tsvetnoy Bulvar.jpg - Built in 1988.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 01.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 02.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 03.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 04.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 05.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 06.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 07.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 08.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow-City 30.03.2008 from Savvinskaya embankment.jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow, Berezhkovskaya embankment, 12.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Moscow, Tarasa Schevchenko 1-4.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Moscow, Taganskaya KL dome.jpg - Built in 1953.
- Image:Moscow, Kievskaya APL lighting.jpg - Built in 1953.
- Image:Moscow, Smolenskaya APL lighting.jpg - Built in 1953.
- Image:Moscow, Smolenskaya APL lighting 01.jpg - Built in 1953.
- Image:Moscow, New Krasnolyzhsky Bridge.jpg - Built in 2000.
- Image:Moscow, Peter Fomenko theater.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Tarasa Schevchenko 1-4 03.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Moscow, Vereyskaya Plaza-2.jpg - Built in 2007.
- Image:Zholtovsky tarasov house.jpg - Built in 1910s. Architect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow, Arbat 26 window.jpg - Built in 1947. Architect, Pavel Abrosimov, lived to 1961.
- Image:Moscow, Goncharnaya 1 and 2.jpg - Built in 1952 (Kotelniki tower). Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Moscow, Goncharnaya 11-17.jpg - Built in 1952 (Kotelniki tower). Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Moscow, Goncharnaya 18-12.jpg - Built in 1952 (Kotelniki tower). Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Moscow, Vinogradovo Estate 1.jpg - Built in 1912. Arhitect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow, Vinogradovo Estate 2.jpg - Built in 1912. Arhitect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow, Vinogradovo Estate 3.jpg - Built in 1912. Arhitect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow, Vinogradovo Estate 4.jpg - Built in 1912. Arhitect, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (1).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (2).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (3).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (4).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (5).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (6).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, inside (7).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, outside (1).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, outside (2).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, outside (3).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, outside (4).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, New Kremlin in Izmailovo, outside (5).jpg - Built in 1990s-2000s; parts are still under construction.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (1).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (2).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (3).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (4).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (5).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (6).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, City of Capitals, 16.05.2008 (7).jpg - Building under construction, TBC 2008.
- Image:Moscow, Naberezhnaya Tower (1).jpg - Built in 2006-2007.
- Image:Moscow, Naberezhnaya Tower (2).jpg - Built in 2006-2007.
- Image:Moscow, Naberezhnaya Tower (3).jpg - Built in 2006-2007.
- Image:Moscow, Naberezhnaya Tower (4).jpg - Built in 2006-2007.
- Image:Moscow, Naberezhnaya Tower (5).jpg - Built in 2006-2007.
- Image:Moscow City 16.05.2008 (1).jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow City 16.05.2008 (2).jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Moscow City 16.05.2008 (3).jpg - Built in 2006-2008 and under construction.
- Image:Polyanka subway (1).jpg - Built in 1986.
- Image:Polyanka subway (4).jpg - Built in 1986.
- Image:Polyanka subway (6).jpg - Built in 1986.
- Image:Polyanka subway (2).jpg - Built in 1986.
- Image:Polyanka subway (3).jpg - Built in 1986.
- Image:Polyanka subway (5).jpg - Built in 1986.
- Image:Moscow, Vorontsovskaya 10.jpg - Built in 1910. Architect, Vladimir Yeramishantsev, died in 1959.
- Image:Moscow, Kadashevskaya 22-1, 14.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Kadashevskaya 24.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Kadashevskaya 30.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Kadashevskaya 32-24.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Kadashevskaya 34 32.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, boat by Lu Bridge (1).jpg - Built in 1994.
- Image:Moscow, boat by Lu Bridge (2).jpg - Built in 1994.
- Image:Moscow, House on Embankment back side.jpg - Built in 1927-1931. Architect, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Moscow, Chistoprudny pavillion (1).jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Chistoprudny pavillion (2).jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Chistoprudny pavillion (3).jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Kropotkinskaya 01-1.jpg - Built in 1935. Lead architect, Aleksey Dushkin, died in 1977.
- Image:Kropotkinskaya 02-1.JPG - Built in 1935. Lead architect, Aleksey Dushkin, died in 1977.
- Image:Sadovnicheskaya 32-34C5 (WB6418) .jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Sadovnicheskaya 32-34C5 (WB6419).jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Moscow, Kutuzovsky 21,23.jpg - Built in 1939. Arhitect, Andrei Burov, died in 1957.
- Image:Moscow, Baumanskaya APL 02.jpg - Built in 1944. Lead architect, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Moscow, Baumanskaya APL 04.jpg - Built in 1944. Lead architect, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Moscow, Kurskaya APL 01.jpg - Built in 1938. Lead architect, Leonid Polyakov, died in 1965.
- Image:Moscow, Tokmakov lane church (1).jpg - Built in 1908. Architect, Ivan Bondarenko, died in 1946.
- Image:Moscow, Tokmakov lane church (2).jpg - Built in 1908. Architect, Ivan Bondarenko, died in 1946.
- Image:Moscow, Tokmakov lane church (3).jpg - Built in 1908. Architect, Ivan Bondarenko, died in 1946.
- Image:Moscow, Myasnitskaya 41 (1).jpg - Built in 1928-1936. Architects lived to: Le Corbusier - 1965, Nikolai Collie - 1966.
- Image:Moscow, Myasnitskaya 47 (2).jpg - Built in 1927. One of junior architects, Mikhail Barsch, lived to 1976.
- Image:Moscow, Myasnitskaya 47 (3).jpg - Built in 1927. One of junior architects, Mikhail Barsch, lived to 1976.
- Image:Novokuznetskaya dome.jpg - Built in 1943. Architect, Nadezhda Bykova, died in 1997.
- Image:Novo-Alekseyevsky convent, Gates.jpg - Built in 2000s.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 01.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 02.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 03.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 04.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 05.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 06.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 07.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 08.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Mendeleyevskaya 09.JPG - Built in 1988.
- Image:Moscow, US Embassy and Chalyapin house.jpg - Built in 1950s (US Embassy).
- This photo may not be effected by the Russian law because that is the USA Embassy therefore is a sovereign territory of the united states of america therefore is unaffected by the russian law and effected by the US law which allows the photographs of building. So for this reason I am removing the template from the page.Hereford 01:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 01.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 02.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 03.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 04.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 05.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 06.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 07.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Krasnopresnenskaya 08.JPG - Built in 1954.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 01.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 02.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 03.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 04.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 05.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 06.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Serpukhovskaya 07.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tverskaya 01.JPG - Built in 1979.
- Image:Tverskaya 02.JPG - Built in 1979.
- Image:Tverskaya 03.JPG - Built in 1979.
- Image:Tverskaya 04.JPG - Built in 1979.
- Image:Moscow, Stremyanny 28-1 02.jpg - Built in 1904. One of the architects, Alexander Zelenko, died in 1953.
- Image:Moscow lions house.jpg - Built in 1947. Head of architectural firm, Ivan Zholtovsky, died in 1959. Cannot locate years of life of actual designers, but it's irrelevant - built 1947.
- Image:Moscow, Tverskoy 6.jpg - Built in 1900s. Architect, Alexander Zelenko, died in 1953. However, attribution is not 100% certain, and in 1990s the building was rebuilt leaving only the façade wall; all original artwork is lost.
- Image:Golovinsky Convent Tower.jpg - Built in 1913. Architect, Alexander Latkov, died in 1949
- Image:Tulskaya 01.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tulskaya 02.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tulskaya 03.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tulskaya 04.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tulskaya 05.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tulskaya 06.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Tulskaya 09.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Yangelya 01.JPG - Built in 2000.
- Image:Yangelya 02.JPG - Built in 2000.
- Image:Yangelya 03.jpg - Built in 2000.
- Image:Yangelya 06.jpg - Built in 2000.
- Image:Yangelya 08.jpg - Built in 2000.
- Image:Nagatinskaya 01.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagatinskaya 02.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagatinskaya 03.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagatinskaya 04.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagornaya 01.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagornaya 02.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagornaya 03.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nagornaya 04.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nahimovsky 01.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nahimovsky 02.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nahimovsky 05.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nahimovsky 06.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Nahimovsky 07.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Sevastopolskaya 01.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Sevastopolskaya 02.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Sevastopolskaya 03.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Sevastopolskaya 04.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Sevastopolskaya 05.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Chertanovskaya -01.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Chertanovskaya -02.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Chertanovskaya -03.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Chertanovskaya -04.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Chertanovskaya -05.jpg - Built in 1983.
- Image:Yuzhnaya 01.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Yuzhnaya 02.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Yuzhnaya 03.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Yuzhnaya 04.JPG - Built in 1983.
- Image:Moscow, Valovaya 4 tower.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Moscow, Valovaya 8.jpg - Built in 1950s.
- Image:Aviamotornaya 03.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Aviamotornaya 04.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Aviamotornaya 05.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Aviamotornaya 07.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Aviamotornaya 10.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Pl Ilyicha 02.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Pl Ilyicha 04.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Pl Ilyicha 06.jpg - Built in 1979.
- Image:Rogozhskoe cemetery - WW2 graves.jpg - Built in 1970s.
- Image:Moscow, Bolotnaya 15 from bridge.jpg - Built in 1927-1931. Architect, Boris Iofan, died in 1976.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya Tower 01.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya tower 2008 cloudy 03.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya tower 2008 cloudy 06.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya tower 2008 cloudy 08.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya tower 2008 06.JPG - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya tower 2008 08.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Kotelnicheskaya Tower 02.jpg - Built in 1940 and 1952. Lead architect, Dmitry Chechulin, died in 1981.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 01.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 03.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 04.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 05.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 06.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 08.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Chkalovskaya 07.jpg - Built in 1995.
- Image:Podkolokolny 10 02.jpg - Built in 1990s.
- Image:Krasnokholmsky bridge 29.06.08 01.jpg - Built in 1938. Architect, Victor Kokorin, died in 1959.
- Image:Wiki second schluzovoy 1.jpg - Built in 1990s.
Discussion
[edit]Bridges are copyrighted? I guess it makes sense, but still...a utilitarian bridge design? --NE2 (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- ** Each bridge has a listed architect. In Soviet/Russian construction practice, his functions are reduced to decorating the engineer's structure and integrating it into city environment, but as I understand COM:FOP it doesn't mean jack. As long as there is a listed architect, it's 70 years or deletion. It's not much better than a square slab attributed to Le Corbusier. NVO (talk) 20:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Keep It's right that there is no FOP in Russia, but this fact makes it not necessary to delete such images from Commons since they still may be used in all the countries where FOP is given. There should be a template that makes clear that it's not allowed to use an image in the Russian Wikipedia. --S[1] 16:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Eh... I think you've misunderstood COM:FOP rather gravely. Which country's freedom of panorama rules apply is determined by the country where the photograph is taken. It doesn't help that Germany permits the depiction of works placed in public places in Germany (which is all they have jurisdiction to exempt). —LX (talk, contribs) 16:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- What you said is not elaborated in COM:FOP at all, could you please name a source where it can be read? Thanks --S[1] 19:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think the reason it's not stated there is that it's rather self-evident that you don't apply freedom of panorama of a country other than the one where the work in question is located. If we were to apply the freedom of panorama rules of the country of publication rather than the country where the depicted work is located, we would have to delete all depictions of recent statues and other artworks in public places, even if located in countries that permit such depictions. This is because, according to your reasoning and because the Wikimedia servers are located in the US (see Commons:Licensing#Interaction of United States copyright law and foreign copyright law), we would have to apply the more restrictive American freedom of panorama rules. —LX (talk, contribs) 20:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- No. There a "national treatment" rule in Berne Convention. Each country define copyrightability in its own law. Yu cannot determine existence of copyright in, say, USA by reference to law of, say, Russia. Lqp (talk) 14:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Again, a source or external link would be useful. --S[1] 00:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Berne Convention Article 5 Lqp (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. Well, for me this looks fairly contradictory to some rules on COM:FOP, but especially to what LX said, isn't it? --S[1] 19:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, there is nothing about that article which contradicts COM:FOP. If you create a sculpture and have it displayed in public in the US, it is protected by copyright in the US per US copyright law and in accordance with § 3. It is also protected abroad per §§ 1 and 2. If, instead, you create a sculpture and have it displayed in Germany, it is not protected by German copyright insofar as depictions are concerned and therefore, the work also falls outside the scope of overseas protection afforded by §§ 1 and 2. Thus, if you take a photograph of a sculpture in Germany, you may publish it in the US, but if you take a photograph of a sculpture in the US, you may not publish it in Germany. Again, if you are arguing that the opposite is the case, then we would have to delete all photographs of recent sculptures taken in Germany, Sweden, the UK and other countries with proper FOP provisions, since we are publishing those photographs in the US. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. Well, for me this looks fairly contradictory to some rules on COM:FOP, but especially to what LX said, isn't it? --S[1] 19:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Berne Convention Article 5 Lqp (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Again, a source or external link would be useful. --S[1] 00:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- What you said is not elaborated in COM:FOP at all, could you please name a source where it can be read? Thanks --S[1] 19:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Question Could someone who speaks Russian please translate the relevant law (article 1276 of this page)? Using an automatic translation, I get the feeling that photos where the relevant piece of architecture is not the main subject are OK. If that is the case, some of these photos, which are views of cities rather than of a specific building or bridge, would be OK. Pruneautalk 17:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Text of article 1276 is hardly relevant - until the Supreme Court (or regional arbitrage courts at least) deem it necessary to formulate a court approach to the subject. The system is heavily dependent on court practice, without it any judgements are wishful thinking. And, unlike tax raids or divorce settlements, there are very few of droit d'autheur court cases, so it will take <many> years to formulate the legislation completely. So all that matters is COM:FOP. NVO (talk) 20:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is no case law in Russia. So no decisions of Supreme Court would be relevant to the case in question. Only Civil Code matters, judicial interpretation is not required for us to apply the law. --Grebenkov (talk) 09:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- See article 126 of Russian Coststitution. Supreme Court "executed a judjical supervision [over common jurisdiction courts] and makes clarification of judjical practices". Lqp (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- So what? Yes, the Supreme Court oversees the judicial practice to correct errors commonly made by lower courts, but there is still a law, which we must obey to the letter. Supreme court cannot abolish or amend it. If it is written in the law that something is prohibited, no common court in Russia can do anything except to enforce the law. --Grebenkov (talk) 10:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- See article 126 of Russian Coststitution. Supreme Court "executed a judjical supervision [over common jurisdiction courts] and makes clarification of judjical practices". Lqp (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if you are the one "to apply the law" then indeed you are free to redesign the legal framework of claim yourself Napoleon. The rest of us have to wait for VS summaries. NVO (talk) 19:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- You can apply the law, too! You don't have to be Napoleon for that. And you do it every day. When you buy a bus ticket — you apply the Civil code. When you cross the street on green — you apply the law. You can catch the thief who is stealing your wallet by his hand — and by that you also apply the law. We do not need the courts to just apply the law. The only function of courts in the legal system is to settle disputes, when one party disagrees with another and they can't settle their differences by themself, without judicial intervention. Supreme court summaries are just that - the summary of previous disputes. If there is no dispute, there is no summary. And that is the case here: the law clearly forbids commercial use of the images in question, thus they do not belong on Commons, and we don't have to take the matters to the court to settle that. --Grebenkov (talk) 18:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if you are the one "to apply the law" then indeed you are free to redesign the legal framework of claim yourself Napoleon. The rest of us have to wait for VS summaries. NVO (talk) 19:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is no case law in Russia. So no decisions of Supreme Court would be relevant to the case in question. Only Civil Code matters, judicial interpretation is not required for us to apply the law. --Grebenkov (talk) 09:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- ... and also please add an entry on Russia/the old Soviet Union to the COM:FOP page. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's already covered here. To NVO: Would you object to a speedy nuking of these images as a drama-reduction measure? (Compare what happened here, and you'd see why it's best if we can get this over with quickly.) Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 18:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Go for it! There many thousands to follow. Isn't destruction sweet? NVO (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC) However, there are
threeinstances that might need a closer look and/or clear policy:- Pre-1917 construction (marked in the list above) - the architect died less than 70 years ago, but droit d'autheur on pre-1918 creations is not enforced.
- Role of junior architect (see Image:Moscow, Gostorg Bldg in Myasnitskaya Street.jpg, Image:Moscow, Myasnitskaya 47 (2).jpg, Image:Moscow, Myasnitskaya 47 (3).jpg). Lead architect died in 1937, but at least one of 3 of his junior associates (all are listed on the official register) survived past the threshold. Do they count for deletion or not? NVO (talk) 20:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Role of architect when it is clearly subordinate to engineer (see the bridges Q&A above). NVO (talk) 20:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Role of restoration project author, when he goes beyond recreating known past structures and invents his own vision of the past (en:Eugène Viollet-le-Duc and en:Petr Baranovsky are prime examples). NVO (talk) 20:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Whether modern replicas of historical buildings (Category:Cathedral of Christ the Saviour) count as modern construction or not. NVO (talk) 20:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- How could I forget! Rare case of an architect revoking his signature and (probably) forfeiting his droit d'autheur. That was the case of Le Corbusier' revocation of Category:Tsentrosoyuz building signature. Compare his originals to as-built photos, see what I mean. NVO (talk) 21:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'll hold back on the speedy for a little bit until these points are resolved. Images that satisfy the first or last points should certainly be okay. Destruction is not sweet; I really wish we didn't have to do this. :/ Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 06:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Go for it! There many thousands to follow. Isn't destruction sweet? NVO (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC) However, there are
- It's already covered here. To NVO: Would you object to a speedy nuking of these images as a drama-reduction measure? (Compare what happened here, and you'd see why it's best if we can get this over with quickly.) Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 18:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- The translation of article 1276 of Civil Code of Russian Federation is as follows:
Reproduction or broadcasting of photographiс, architectural work or the work of visual arts, that reside in place, which is open for visitation, is allowed without consent of author or other copyright holder and without any royalties, with the exception of cases when the depiction of work is the main purpose of such reproduction or broadcasting or when such depiction is used commercially.
Допускается без согласия автора или иного правообладателя и без выплаты вознаграждения воспроизведение, сообщение в эфир или по кабелю фотографического произведения, произведения архитектуры или произведения изобразительного искусства, которые постоянно находятся в месте, открытом для свободного посещения, за исключением случаев, когда изображение произведения таким способом является основным объектом этого воспроизведения, сообщения в эфир или по кабелю либо когда изображение произведения используется в коммерческих целях.
- s/when such depiction is used commercially/when depiction of work is used commercially/. There is no word "such" in the original. So, meaning of article changes substantionally Lqp (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC).
- IMO (and I am a lawyer, though I specialize in Criminal law), it seems that some of the photographs in question can be kept if they are placed under licenses that disallow commercial use. Some others, that evidently have a single purpose - to depict a copyrighted work - should be deleted. Images which purpose is uncertain should be discussed on individual basis. --Grebenkov (talk) 09:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you vey much, Grebenkov, for the translation. My main query was to understand whether it was disallowed to publish images which are both used commercially and focused on the copyrighted building, or images which are either used commercially and focused on the building (COM:FOP was unclear, but I'll clarify it there too). Since it is the latter, all these images should be deleted, unfortunately - with the possible exceptions listed by NVO above. Commons does not accept non-commercial licenses: we only accept truly free images, and that means that commercial reproduction must be allowed. Some Wikipedias would accept these images, though, since there guidelines are not as strict. Pruneautalk 09:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- In that case, I think the deletion is unavoidable. Dura lex, sed lex. --Grebenkov (talk) 10:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you vey much, Grebenkov, for the translation. My main query was to understand whether it was disallowed to publish images which are both used commercially and focused on the copyrighted building, or images which are either used commercially and focused on the building (COM:FOP was unclear, but I'll clarify it there too). Since it is the latter, all these images should be deleted, unfortunately - with the possible exceptions listed by NVO above. Commons does not accept non-commercial licenses: we only accept truly free images, and that means that commercial reproduction must be allowed. Some Wikipedias would accept these images, though, since there guidelines are not as strict. Pruneautalk 09:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is much better, easier and quicker way: shutdown WikiCommons, format all their hard drives and destroy all their servers hardware. I really dunno what to say about this shit.... D.wine (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- Because some of these images can be published under non-commercial licenses (and thus can be used in local Wikipedia space with appropriate tagging, if local policy allow such usage) and some of them can even be free (if the building is too old or in some other cases), I believe that the best solution to date is to move all these photos to Russian Wikipedia and to discuss them on individual basis there. We hope to do that ASAP, and I ask Commons admins not to delete the photos until we do that. (At least, let us know when the decision will be made and give us some time to copy the photos.) Thank you. Ilya Voyager (talk) 09:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- We also should note that even if original work (building) is copyrighted, the fact that derivateive work is published under free license is important. In this case we only need to wait 70 years from the architect's death and the photos become 100% free. So we have to save all such photos in some (maybe, non-public) place in full resolution and with all meta-data. Ilya Voyager (talk) 09:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Ilya Voyager. We should save this images (in some non-public place) with full metadata before that moment when they will be available for publication. Dinamik (talk) 16:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- We also should note that even if original work (building) is copyrighted, the fact that derivateive work is published under free license is important. In this case we only need to wait 70 years from the architect's death and the photos become 100% free. So we have to save all such photos in some (maybe, non-public) place in full resolution and with all meta-data. Ilya Voyager (talk) 09:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Keep images of that objects, that had been built before 1917. As I know, license {{PD-RusEmpire}} is still active. Dinamik (talk) 16:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Keep I think that the majority of photos listed here do not violate the law.--Avala (talk) 21:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Espessially photos of building which built until 1917 (aka PD:RusEmpire). Other images don't violate Russian Law too. I propose to delete only images uploaded by NVO by his/her request. --Pauk (talk) 08:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Delete NVO is right, and all this isn't news at all, it's just that the Commons community has preferred until now to close their eyes with respect to these countries where such images may be used only for non-commercial purposes. (And mind you, that's not just Russia. It's the whole Commonwealth of Independent States, plus the three Baltic states, plus Romania, plus possible still others we haven't looked at yet.) It's also not just buildings, it also applies to sculptures. Moving to ru-WP and using the images there under a "fair-use"-like Exemption Doctrine Policy might be possible. The buildings also can be moved to en-WP, where they are fine under 17 USC 120(a). For an old discussion about this, see Commons:Village pump/Archive/2007Apr#Commons:Freedom of panorama. Lupo 21:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh right, I forgot.
- pre-1917: Keep I don't know if doing so is 100% correct, but consensus seems to be to keep those buildings where {{PD-RusEmpire}} might be applicable.
- junior architects: Delete We can't just arbitrarily declare some of the co-authors not to be eligible as copyright owners. In the absence of any evidence, we need to count them as full co-authors.
- bridges: Delete NVO wrote: "his functions are reduced to decorating the engineer's structure and integrating it into city environment, but as I understand COM:FOP it doesn't mean jack". I agree. And it's nothing unusual. The engineers are responsible for the statics of the structure, the architect for the design.
- restorations that go beyond the original: Delete. The new design elements certainly would be eligible for copyright. Go by the copyright of these new elements.
- modern reconstructions: no, consider them replicas, themselves ineligible for copyright. If the original would have been out of copyright, keep them, else delete. (I.e., go by the copyright of the original.)
- Le Corbusier retracting his name:
{{subst:vk}}. I don't know if that is absolutely correct, but it seems to me that if the architect retracts his name, that means the building is not his work and is not a reproduction of his plans.I see no mention for Le Corbusier having retracted his name in either Tsentrosoyuz building nor in ru:Центросоюз. What's the source for this claim? But anyway: Delete The executing Russian architect, Nikolai Kolli, died 1966.[4]
- Lupo 06:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh right, I forgot.
- Delete the sculptures, Keep the buildings and change policy to require only that an image be free under US law. We've already done this for the PD-Art images and if anything it makes more sense to do it here. No Russian will get into trouble for uploading images of buildings to the Commons since their law allows non-commercial use. The images are completely free under US law. If this proposal fails then transwiki the buildings to English Wikipedia. Haukurth (talk) 13:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't the uploaders need to license the images under a non-commercial license? That isn't allowed here. As to not getting in trouble, please see Commons talk:Freedom of panorama#Russia: FOP legal practice developing... Lupo 08:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see why they can't release their own photograph under any license, as long as attention is paid to the fact that there are underlying usage restrictions in Russia because of the subject depicted. Anyone in the US could use the free license. As for the Coca Cola case that clearly has to do with commercial exploitation. It also has to do with a sculpture - which I would want to delete anyway because of lack of freedom under US law. Haukurth (talk) 09:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't the uploaders need to license the images under a non-commercial license? That isn't allowed here. As to not getting in trouble, please see Commons talk:Freedom of panorama#Russia: FOP legal practice developing... Lupo 08:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ditto the immediate above--Tomtom9041 (talk) 17:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Keep For all its worth, Russia has freedom of panorama, and artworks are not the same as architectural monuments. --Kuban kazak (talk) 17:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Or does it mean we should delete images of aircrafts, cars etc? All them had listed designers etc. I think that would violate freedom of information - a constitutional right in Russia.--Nxx (talk) 00:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- DeleteUnfortunately it is delete it violates a law. Except in the case of File:Moscow, US Embassy and Chalyapin house.jpg because that is the USA Embassy therefore is a sovereign territory of the united states of america therefore is unaffected by the russian law and effected by the US law which allows the photographs of building. I will also post that under the line of the picture. Hereford (talk) 01:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Where was the picture taken from (in what country), I think Russian territory unless the US owns the road too? ;-) --Tony Wills (talk) 22:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Kept all. We don't have consensus here, so defaulting to keep. If individual images need to be renominated, so be it. There's not enough exposure here in this old archive. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 07:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)