Commons:Deletion requests/Template:PD-Unicode

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Template:PD-Unicode

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Its basis for claiming PD seems dubious (especially since that would put e.g. Apple Color Emoji in the PD)—many of the images may qualify as PD under (for example) {{PD-simple}} or {{PD-font}}, but they would require review on this front. See also earlier discussion on talk page. HarJIT (talk) 14:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. The basis for declaring any glyph in any font as PD just because it is a Unicode encoding is very dubious. While simple alphabetic glyphs may be ineligible for copyright under {{PD-simple}} or {{PD-font}}, very many font glyphs for Unicode characters, including but not limited to emoji, are complex graphic designs that should be protected by copyright. BabelStone (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tangential comment: it has come to my attention that a few of the files, such as File:U+260F.svg, contain only a single-character text field, without any outlines or embedded glyph data. These amount to a single codepoint in a minimal SVG wrapper, and therefore presumably fall under PD insofar as the SVGs themselves is concerned, but this would not apply to all or even (in all likeliness) most of the SVG files using this, insofar as I expect that most of them include actual glyph outlines. --HarJIT (talk) 11:12, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, then what on earth is the point of such an svg? If it is just displaying the glyph from whatever font is available on the reader's device it won't necessarily even be the same from reader to reader. Why not just use plain text?! BabelStone (talk) 22:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BabelStone Not all devices actually render all Unicode characters. Having an icon as an image means it can be displayed regardless of the readers' devices' ability to render the symbols. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the point is that when an SVG is embedded in the text, it is often sent to the client device as a PNG rendered on the server side, using one of these fonts installed on the server. So although the SVG file itself does not contain glyph data, the client device doesn't necessarily get sent the SVG itself. --HarJIT (talk) 13:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this seems to be an extension of template:PD-text for text that is a single character with a Unicode mapping. A particular copyrightable stylization of an emoji image might be erroneously tagged with this template, but that doesn't make the template and its PD rationale itself erroneous, only its application to an inappropriate image. Vanisaac (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Its applicability to SVG files (with the possible exception of letters traced from rasters of the font [edit: or of course mere text fields], as opposed to text-to-pathed letters) is questionable even then: {{PD-font}} explicitly notes that scaleable font outlines (i.e. vectors) can be the subject of copyright (as "software"), even when the letter forms when rendered to PNG are not. If this template is kept, it would likely require the same limitation.
Furthermore, the wording "All graphic representations of Unicode characters are in the public domain." would need to be softened, since the proprietary emoji sets are clearly counter-examples, they being (a) graphic representations (b) of Unicode characters which are (c) considered complex enough to be the subject of copyright. -- HarJIT (talk) 14:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How about "This graphic representation of Unicode characters is [in the] public domain" — then it is restricted to the single graphic in question? Like always, its usage is completely in the responsibility of the applicant; it will be the same as when an Emoji is erroneously tagged with e.g. PD-simple. -- sarang♥사랑 06:24, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Info: Im currently busy relicesing most uage to {{PD-simple}}, {{PD-text}} or similar. Marking a few with problem tags. This will date a while... The decision will be deleted. --JuTa 15:04, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --JuTa 13:56, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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